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KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:25 AM Jun 2012

Newer study: Young Adults with high religious involvement became obese -- but why?

Previous Northwestern Medicine research established a correlation between religious involvement and obesity in middle-age and older adults at a single point in time. By tracking participants’ weight gain over time, the new study makes it clear that normal weight younger adults with high religious involvement became obese, rather than obese adults becoming more religious.


http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2011/03/religious-young-adults-obese.html

So they confirmed earlier studies and statistic which show a high correlation between church involvement and obesity. Correlation is NOT causation so exactly how this happens is not yet understood although many have theories. In general, church going people live longer and smoke less than their non-church going peers. Research into this phenomenon is on-going with no definitive answers so far.
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Newer study: Young Adults with high religious involvement became obese -- but why? (Original Post) KurtNYC Jun 2012 OP
Because their brains use so much less energy than the rest of the population? ret5hd Jun 2012 #1
Someone suggested that religion breaks the connections between cause and effect KurtNYC Jun 2012 #6
Pot luck dinners? hedgehog Jun 2012 #2
+1 Auggie Jun 2012 #7
Yes. As any churchgoer knows deep down inside. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #15
There is often snack time between Sunday school and church Nikia Jun 2012 #22
Don't you mean they have all those potlucks? LiberalFighter Jun 2012 #23
At many churches, it is more than just potlucks Nikia Jun 2012 #30
And goodies and sweet drinks at every event? However I know a lot of over weight people who are jwirr Jun 2012 #28
Yep, and the Southern Baptists of my youth RainbowSuperfund Jun 2012 #31
Catholic churches have spaghetti dinners and pancake breakfasts. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #40
I blame communion wafers. nt NickB79 Jun 2012 #33
Hypothesis: Need requires satisfaction, the easier the bettter, even if it is just temporary. nt patrice Jun 2012 #3
Maybe they both correlate with being poor and rural XemaSab Jun 2012 #4
This hypothesis gets my vote n/t Doremus Jun 2012 #38
I don't know get the red out Jun 2012 #5
Sexual repression nt xchrom Jun 2012 #8
Seriously, it's this. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #17
Exactly what I was going to say.... ohheckyeah Jun 2012 #41
Because the emotional problems which cause maximum religious involvement also cause overeating. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #9
There is a theory like that too -- that food and church are low cost comforts KurtNYC Jun 2012 #12
Obviously, God wants them to be fat.... Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #10
I have seen this happen with my very religious mother who hangs around a lot with church people NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #11
What specifically does "high religious involvement" mean? surrealAmerican Jun 2012 #13
in this study it was: attending one or more church activities weekly n/t KurtNYC Jun 2012 #18
Culture - over time religious people became obese (for whatever reason) AngryAmish Jun 2012 #14
fucking burns calories LeftyMom Jun 2012 #16
maybe there is something oldhippydude Jun 2012 #19
thats ridiculous. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2012 #20
I think the so-called "study" is nonsense. former9thward Jun 2012 #21
anecdotes =/= data dmallind Jun 2012 #25
If you read the fine print of this study you find religious people live longer than non-religious. former9thward Jun 2012 #36
That's true for Mormons. But they are a very small percentage of the churchgoing population n/t RZM Jun 2012 #29
Mormons also tend to be more health-conscious. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #42
That too n/t RZM Jun 2012 #44
Because they're full of shit, that's why. BlueDemKev Jun 2012 #24
Gluttony is the one sin they don't have a problem with. L0oniX Jun 2012 #26
Drinking too much Kool Aid? nt Quixote1818 Jun 2012 #27
There might be a racial and gender components to this data, though that's far from the whole story RZM Jun 2012 #32
They factored differences in age, race, gender, education, income and baseline BMI KurtNYC Jun 2012 #34
their god is punishing them for their sins - the stock answer nt msongs Jun 2012 #35
Does it account for income/education? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #37
So there will be more of them for Jesus to love? piratefish08 Jun 2012 #39
Neurotic people tend to be religious, neurotic people tend to "self-medicate"... Odin2005 Jun 2012 #43

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. Someone suggested that religion breaks the connections between cause and effect
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:43 AM
Jun 2012

eg. it is unscientific so there is a theory that church goers become non-believers in science and biology.

A similar theory suggests that prayer has little effect against high carb diets.

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
22. There is often snack time between Sunday school and church
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jun 2012

That involve cookies or doughnuts. At many churches, church activities involve food. While eating at these activities alone might not make one obese, I think that it reinforces the idea that there should be food involved while doing nearly anything.

Nikia

(11,411 posts)
30. At many churches, it is more than just potlucks
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jun 2012

Food between Sunday school and services. There might be food after services that may be provided by members or the church itself. Bible study and youth group activities often involve some kind of food too. There might be several church celebrations that involve either potlucks or church provided meals. Church fundraisers often involve bake sales. Food is a big part of many churches.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. And goodies and sweet drinks at every event? However I know a lot of over weight people who are
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:02 PM
Jun 2012

not religious at all!

RainbowSuperfund

(110 posts)
31. Yep, and the Southern Baptists of my youth
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jun 2012

Yep, and the Southern Baptists of my youth threw a fried chicken dinner every Valentines day so their youth wouldn't be tempted to go to any sinful dances and do any gyrating with the opposite sex. Pot lucks seemed to be the preferred option to anything they wanted to prevent the youth from enjoying. The only sin they indorse is gluttony.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
40. Catholic churches have spaghetti dinners and pancake breakfasts.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jun 2012

When I was in Catholic grade school, our fundraisers were usually bake sales. Once a year, we also sold donuts. With four kids, my parents had a freezer full of donuts.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
4. Maybe they both correlate with being poor and rural
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jun 2012

Rich people in the big city are thin and atheist.

Out in the sticks, notsomuch.

get the red out

(13,468 posts)
5. I don't know
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jun 2012

But for anyone who has ever tried to battle a bunch of Baptists for a piece of KFC the correlation is obvious.

To be honest, I would imagine that it has to do with the most religious parts of the country also culturally having the most fattening diet.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
17. Seriously, it's this.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jun 2012

So much of religious teaching for young people is about ignoring your body's needs or hating your body as sinful. Young women are told that being attractive and desirable is a sin, because it causes men to sin. Neglected bodies are a natural consequence.

In church culture the one vice nobody criticizes is gluttony, even though it's a deadly sin if you read that book where they keep the dozen proof texts they know.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
12. There is a theory like that too -- that food and church are low cost comforts
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:57 AM
Jun 2012

Both can be responses to a personal sense of loss and emotional emptiness.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
11. I have seen this happen with my very religious mother who hangs around a lot with church people
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:55 AM
Jun 2012

My mother is obsessed with food. If there is a bucket of fried chicken she has to touch and handle every single piece before she takes one. If there is food on my plate she has to touch that. Like she can't help herself.

When she goes into a grocery store she will be in there for at least a couple of hours. Even if she only needs one or two things. And when she leaves her fingerprints will be on every item in that store.

Her mother was the same way. When I was a kid we used to take her mother shopping because she didn't drive and when she would finally get through that entire store and we were getting ready to check out we would turn our heads for a second and she would be right back at the start of the store beginning the process all over again.

I have seen this food obsession stuff before. Never really thought about the religious connection.

Don

Edit: Almost forgot this part. I was obese during my childhood and early as an adult. After I got married and moved further away from my religious family I gradually lost weight until my weight has become normal for my height which is where I am at today. Weird, huh?

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
13. What specifically does "high religious involvement" mean?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jun 2012

Might it mean a whole lot more time just sitting in pews? Is that time that non-religious people spend moving around?

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
14. Culture - over time religious people became obese (for whatever reason)
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:59 AM
Jun 2012

If folks around you are obese then you tend to become obese. (of if you hang out with drunks you tend to become a drunk, hang out with smokers, et al.)

Eating too much food is not as sinful as smoking and drinking I guess.

former9thward

(32,046 posts)
21. I think the so-called "study" is nonsense.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jun 2012

I live in an area where I see a lot of young Mormon missionaries. I have never seen any of them that were overweight.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
25. anecdotes =/= data
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:58 AM
Jun 2012

I'm a fat bastard and have not a single religious bone buried deep beneath my adipose layers. Still doesn't invalidate data that shows more religious people are more likely to be obese. Correlation is not a guarantee but a generalization.

I suspect the reasons are already covered. Religiosity correlates strongly with non-urban living and with lack of educational attainment too, both of which are also correlated with obesity (and no that can't be refuted by tales of fundamentalist 3% body fat PhD's who live downtown). I suspect these are linked not discrete independent variables. The less you can walk in daily life to a varied range of food choices while circulating among a diverse and cosmopolitan population and considering their views with critical thinking skills, the more likely you are to be both fat and in unchallenged possession of your childhood religious indoctrination.

former9thward

(32,046 posts)
36. If you read the fine print of this study you find religious people live longer than non-religious.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jun 2012

So they are fat but live longer. I thought being fat was supposed to be bad for you. It also had the ridiculous statement that maybe the cause of this is that "unhealthy food" -- whatever that means --- is served at religious gatherings. So when we are surrounded 24/7 by "unhealthy food" they are going to blame a once or twice a week gathering for being fat. Yes, you are right, anecdotes.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
42. Mormons also tend to be more health-conscious.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jun 2012

Not to mention that those missionaries spend their days walking door-to-door and riding bicycles all around town.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
32. There might be a racial and gender components to this data, though that's far from the whole story
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:28 PM
Jun 2012

But African-Americans have both higher rates of obesity and church attendance than the population at large. And both are true again with African American women in particular.

http://www.cdc.gov/Features/dsObesityAdults/

The white obesity rate is about 24 percent. It's actually higher among white men than white women. But the rate in the African-American community is 50 percent higher at about 36 percent. And black women have a more than 7 percent edge over black men in this regard (32 percent to 39 percent).

When it comes to church attendance, you see similar variations. African-Americans report 55 percent church attendance (as do Republicans, which is interesting since there's very little overlap there). While the white attendance rate is 41 percent. You see a similar gap between men and women as well, with women reporting 47 percent attendance rate and men 39 percent.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/141044/americans-church-attendance-inches-2010.aspx

So there probably is some significance in these numbers, though I don't know how much.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
34. They factored differences in age, race, gender, education, income and baseline BMI
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jun 2012
The study, which tracked 2,433 men and women for 18 years, found normal weight young adults ages 20 to 32 years with a high frequency of religious participation were 50 percent more likely to be obese by middle age after adjusting for differences in age, race, sex, education, income and baseline body mass index. High frequency of religious participation was defined as attending a religious function at least once a week.


http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2011/03/religious-young-adults-obese.html
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
37. Does it account for income/education?
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jun 2012

Poor/uneducated people tend to be obese and more religious.

That may be enough to skew it.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
43. Neurotic people tend to be religious, neurotic people tend to "self-medicate"...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

...with food. Basically, if you have mental health issues you are more likely to be religious and more likely to overeat.

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