What John J. McCloy* said upon being told his recommendation to incarcerate Japanese Americans during World War II in concentration camps was unconstitutional.

* Mr. Establishment, later "served" on the Warren Commission.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)

2. How do they codify the language in this memo?

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:41 AM

Jun 2012

With adjectives, of course!! (my personal favorite)

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)

4. I was more of a Lolly Lolly Lolly kind of guy n/t

Reply to Blue_Tires (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:46 AM

Jun 2012

xchrom

(108,903 posts)

3. Du rec. nt

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 10:45 AM

Jun 2012

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)

5. I've noticed a similarity

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:09 AM

Jun 2012

between the Obama administration's view of due process in regards to secret kill lists and the British Supreme Court's view of judicial authority with regards to Julian Assange's extradition.

That is to say, the similarity between the two is neither due process nor judicial authority has any control over what the executive branch wants.

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)

20. I liken Obama's assassination program to

Reply to OnyxCollie (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:20 AM

Jun 2012

Bush's torture program.

Both are vile and reflect on the person authorizing it.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)

6. What is being explained is not new since FDR, why is Obama being held to a higher standard? Regards

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:10 AM

Jun 2012

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)

8. Yep.

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:23 AM

Jun 2012

At least he's not killing homeless veterans like this guy:

http://coat.ncf.ca/our_magazine/links/53/4.pdf

AnotherDreamWeaver

(2,852 posts)

15. That link didn't open for me...

Reply to cliffordu (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:27 PM

Jun 2012

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)

16. It is a pdf of a report of Hoover's and MacArthur's clearance of the Bonus Army from DC.

Reply to AnotherDreamWeaver (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:34 PM

Jun 2012

Hoover could not publicly disagree with his Chief of
Staff and Secretary of War, and ended up paying the political
cost of this incident. The forceful eviction of the Bonus
Army, with four killed (two demonstrators shot by police
and two infants asphyxiated by tear gas), turned public opinion
against Hoover and contributed to his defeat in 1932.

GeorgeGist

(25,322 posts)

9. Progress?

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:50 AM

Jun 2012

TiberiusB

(487 posts)

10. So multiple wrongs make a right?

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:01 PM

Jun 2012

Do I understand you correctly? We aren't supposed to be getting better at this whole democracy thing? The faux war on terror is exactly the same as WWII? To be clear, I don't think WWII excuses the crimes perpetrated by the U.S. military and government (fire bombing Dresden and Tokyo, internment camps, nukes, and so on)

Help me out here.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)

13. Thank you for advancing the argument of Bush speech writer and co-founder of Red State,

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 12:15 PM

Jun 2012

Josh Trevino, to support killing. Who are you going to parrot next? Cheney?

boppers

(16,588 posts)

21. Because depressing voter turnout is a powerful force.

Reply to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:30 AM

Jun 2012

Get people "outraged" against a long standing practice, blame it on Obama, and there you go.

Wiretapping foreign communications.
Seizing for-profit illegal crop grows.
Interrogation.

Heck, find any issue that people can be whipped up over, pin it on Obama, facts be damned.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)

7. Well, at least we know it exists....

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2012, 11:22 AM

Jun 2012

I mean, that counts for something, right? Tell me that counts for something....

Sigh. I would say it's a brave new world but it just seems like more of the same.