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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:33 PM Feb 2016

Trump Supporter on CNN: Evangelicals Don’t Want to Hear From ‘Foreigner’ Pope

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-supporter-on-cnn-evangelicals-dont-want-to-hear-from-foreigner-pope/

Tea Party activist and Donald Trump supporter Scottie Nell Hughes opined on CNN Thursday that evangelical voters in South Carolina wouldn’t care about Pope Francis‘ criticism of Trump because he was a “foreigner.”...

“There are many Catholics that are saying ‘No, the Pope was not insulting Mr. Trump,’ but you’ve got all these evangelicals who are saying yes,” she said. “They don’t want to sit here and hear a foreigner tell us how to handle things, especially when the United States has been dealing with immigration for 30 years.”

“Here you have this pope coming in and basically lashing out at one of our presidential candidates for a religious reason. not necessarily a political reason but from a religious stand point,” she complained.

“He is the spiritual leader of more than a billion Catholics worldwide and a lot of Catholics here in the United States as well,” Blitzer pointed out.
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Trump Supporter on CNN: Evangelicals Don’t Want to Hear From ‘Foreigner’ Pope (Original Post) KamaAina Feb 2016 OP
We have been dealing with immigration since before 1776. TexasProgresive Feb 2016 #1
They would never want to hear from any Pope "foreigner" or not. n/t Peregrine Took Feb 2016 #2
The Pope is in Rome HassleCat Feb 2016 #3
Pretty rich... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #4
Because there have been so many american popes MiniMe Feb 2016 #5
Pope Francis was born in America. B Calm Feb 2016 #8
Oh yeah???? I'll start my own church with blackjack and hookers!! Initech Feb 2016 #6
Nothing like a little RW populist xenophobia first thing in the morning. pampango Feb 2016 #7
The Pope was in Foreigner? Kewl! Ken Burch Feb 2016 #9
Who's gonna remind 'em that THIS guy was a foreigner? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #10
Yeah but Francis takes much, much issue with that guy, who failed to attack LGBT at all when Francis Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #12
And I've never, ever defended Francis' LGBTQ views. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #13
They'll only heed the words of the American Pope, Festus the First . . . hatrack Feb 2016 #11
Pope Festus? Ken Burch Feb 2016 #14
Let's build walls and...... usedtobedemgurl Feb 2016 #15
yep. kentuck Feb 2016 #16

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
1. We have been dealing with immigration since before 1776.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

30 years my eye. We are a nation of immigrants except for the 1st peoples to be here.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
3. The Pope is in Rome
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:44 PM
Feb 2016

Rome, Georgia that is. His name is Earl Buzzworm, and he is no dang foreigner. Unless we're talking Rome, Oregon but they have no aqueducts, just a few irrigation ditches.

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
4. Pretty rich...
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 11:50 PM
Feb 2016

complaining that the Pope is criticizing Trump for "religious" reasons.

These guys set off my irony meter all of the time.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
6. Oh yeah???? I'll start my own church with blackjack and hookers!!
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:18 AM
Feb 2016

On second thought forget about the church!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. Nothing like a little RW populist xenophobia first thing in the morning.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 07:31 AM
Feb 2016
“They don’t want to sit here and hear a foreigner tell us how to handle things ...

The RW base is nothing if not predictable:

"Damn foreigners! Especially those who dare to tell us we are not treating 'OTHERS' well enough. It makes no sense to have one OTHER (a 'foreign' pope) telling us to treat other OTHERS (foreigners) better.

We are Americans, damn it! We can treat anyone however the hell we want to treat them. Working WITH the rest of the world is liberal 'political correct' run amok. Working AGAINST the rest of the world is what strong, patriotic, sovereign conservative Americans are all about!"
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Yeah but Francis takes much, much issue with that guy, who failed to attack LGBT at all when Francis
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:28 AM
Feb 2016

places denigration of LGBT very high in his universe of priorities. That so called 'Savior' also commanded that his followers not call anyone but God 'father' and Francis likes to be called Father so the 'Savior' can work around that. The 'man who died for us' also very strongly and in great detail commanded that his followers never pray out loud or in public. He said to pray only in most private places, but Francis has need of 'prayer' as theater, to be done in the most public way one can possibly arrange. 'The Christ' said only hypocrites pray in public. I agree with 'the Christ' rather than 'his Vicar'.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
13. And I've never, ever defended Francis' LGBTQ views.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:19 AM
Feb 2016

Is it not possible, as you see it, to disagree with Francis on those views, to call on him to re-examine and consider changing them and still, at the same time, commend his opposition to xenophobia and greed?

He's not a presidential candidate, after all.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
11. They'll only heed the words of the American Pope, Festus the First . . .
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:02 AM
Feb 2016

Or this guy, described by Thomas Frank:

David Allen Bawden (born September 22, 1959 in Oklahoma City[1]), who takes the name Pope Michael, is an American citizen and a conclavist claimant to the papacy. He stated in 2009 that he had approximately 30 "solid" followers.[2]

Bawden was elected by a group of six laypeople, which included himself and his parents, who had come to believe that the post-Vatican II Catholic Church had seceded from the Catholic faith, and that there had been no legitimate Popes elected since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958.

Contents

1 Background
2 Claim to the papacy
3 References
4 External links

Background

In 1975, Bawden and his family began to follow the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX). Bawden attended the SSPX seminary in Écône, Switzerland and Saint Joseph's Priory, Armada, Michigan, but was dismissed from the seminary in 1978.[1]

Bawden claims to have been elected to the papacy in 1990, in a papal conclave attended by five other people, including his parents.[3]
Claim to the papacy
See also: Sedevacantism

Bawden believes that all the Popes since the death of Pope Pius XII on October 9, 1958 are modernists, heretics, and apostates, and that, therefore, their elections are invalid.[4] He considers them to have incurred latae sententiae, or automatic excommunication, for violating Pope Pius X's laws.[4]

A feature-length documentary has been made about Bawden.[5][6] Bawden was the subject in a chapter of the 2004 book What's the Matter with Kansas? by American journalist and historian Thomas Frank.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bawden

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. Pope Festus?
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:20 AM
Feb 2016

I'm trying desperately to avoid a ton of "Gunsmoke" references now.

Someone should do a Photoshop on that, though?

usedtobedemgurl

(1,139 posts)
15. Let's build walls and......
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 10:26 AM
Feb 2016

keep those damn farinars out! Instead of what would Jesus do, it should be, "How would we treat Jesus?" (if he existed) Their reaction says a lot about them.

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