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snot

(10,530 posts) Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:58 AM Feb 2016

Apple ID linked to terrorist's phone changed while device was in gov't hands

I.e., as usual, gov't claims re- the how or why re- its existing or proposed violations of our privacy rights are bullsh*t.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/02/19/apple-id-linked-to-terrorists-iphone-5c-was-changed-while-in-government-hands-apple-says-

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Apple ID linked to terrorist's phone changed while device was in gov't hands (Original Post) snot Feb 2016 OP

So you are telling us that the OWNER of the phone can't change the password? Jim Beard Feb 2016 #1

I'm not telling you anything. snot Feb 2016 #2

The FBI didn't do a thing. It was a county employee who remotely changed the password. randome Feb 2016 #6

Ah, ok. I don't think that changes the conclusion for me . . . snot Feb 2016 #7

I don't think they give a shit about the information actually on the phone. They're using it as Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #3

They're claiming they don't want possession of the tools IDemo Feb 2016 #4

With a legal warrant, yes. That's how the system works. randome Feb 2016 #5

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)

1. So you are telling us that the OWNER of the phone can't change the password?

Reply to snot (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:25 AM

Feb 2016

It belonged to the County of San Bernardino so their employees could use them for word. I am really tired of hearing this about the Gubberment controlling the iiiiiphone like the evil gubberment took it away from the owners to force them change the numbers. Nice try.

snot

(10,530 posts)

2. I'm not telling you anything.

Reply to Jim Beard (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:33 AM

Feb 2016

According to this article, Apple is telling the court that the gov't f*cked themselves out of an easy way to access a terrorist's info, and is using that as an occasion to try to force Apple to make it easy for them to access ALL our info.

If you have authority to the contrary, please share it.

randome

(34,845 posts)

6. The FBI didn't do a thing. It was a county employee who remotely changed the password.

Reply to snot (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:29 AM

Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

snot

(10,530 posts)

7. Ah, ok. I don't think that changes the conclusion for me . . .

Reply to randome (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:20 PM

Feb 2016

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)

3. I don't think they give a shit about the information actually on the phone. They're using it as

Reply to snot (Original post)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:38 AM

Feb 2016

a case to establish a precedent or get the tools to beat apple's end to end encryption straight out.

Right now the DA in NY is going on about the 100 or so Iphones he's got of people arrested for minor drug possession, that he can't get into.

This is about that, the government being mad at apple for making the war on pot smokers more difficult.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)

4. They're claiming they don't want possession of the tools

Reply to Warren DeMontague (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:06 AM

Feb 2016

But having established the precedent will mean they can swing by Apple's doorstep with a box full of iPhones at any time in the future and demand a repeat act, terrorism related or not.

randome

(34,845 posts)

5. With a legal warrant, yes. That's how the system works.

Reply to IDemo (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 22, 2016, 09:28 AM

Feb 2016

And Apple won't do a thing without a legal warrant that passes their own legal team.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

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