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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:17 AM Feb 2016

In General Discussion the Democratic primaries are

not the topic. In fact they're off-limits in this forum. What is the topic is anything else, including the general election. It's a great place to discuss plans to win that election, through a strong GOTV effort to elect the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be. It's a great place to focus on defeating the Republican nominee and regaining control of the Senate with a new Democratic majority.

From my point of view, it doesn't matter all that much who the Democratic nominee is. We are Democrats. We vote for and support Democrats for elected offices. That's a pretty simple equation. Democrats win and Republicans lose. When that happens, we all win. We don't necessarily get everything we hoped for, of course. We never have and never will, really. What we do get, though, is progress toward an overall goal.

General Discussion is a great place to leave the intra-party bickering behind and focus on what will happen in November. GD is a great place to drop doom-and-gloom and nay-saying about this year's elections. That's what I'll be doing here. I'll be encouraging a massive GOTV effort to prevent certain disaster. I have no other option, really. I am a Democrat. I work to elect Democrats to office. I don't run down Democrats here. I support them. All of them.

I hope you'll all join me in that continuing, abiding effort.

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In General Discussion the Democratic primaries are (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2016 OP
Get out the vote -- Yes! Hortensis Feb 2016 #1
The risk of having Republicans in charge of MineralMan Feb 2016 #3
Yes, this ^^^ Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #2
That is the stated goal of Democratic Underground. MineralMan Feb 2016 #4
Meta! Iggo Feb 2016 #5
Yes. Meta posts are allowed. Disruptive Meta posts aren't. MineralMan Feb 2016 #6
You misapprehend me, sir. I LOVE Meta! Iggo Feb 2016 #11
GOTV, DU FSogol Feb 2016 #7
+1000! MineralMan Feb 2016 #8
Non-presidential primaries are OK in GD. Jim Lane Feb 2016 #9
That's true. Thanks for the reminder. MineralMan Feb 2016 #10
I hope people can see past their differences Matrosov Feb 2016 #12
That's my hope as well, and why MineralMan Feb 2016 #13
Too much is at stake Matrosov Feb 2016 #14
And yet the Primaries are the subject of this GD OP. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #15
The subject of this thread is the General Election. MineralMan Feb 2016 #16
Not really. It even includes a 'from my point of view' statement about the Primaries, the very thing Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #17
It's all about the general election, and Hortensis Feb 2016 #18
One thing I've noticed about jury alerts Matrosov Feb 2016 #19

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. The risk of having Republicans in charge of
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:38 AM
Feb 2016

all three branches of federal government cannot be overstated. It simply can't.

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
2. Yes, this ^^^
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:37 AM
Feb 2016

I have no problem with looking for better Democratic candidates at all levels of government in the long run, but overall not supporting our current slate of Democrats is supporting Repubs IMHO.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. That is the stated goal of Democratic Underground.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:41 AM
Feb 2016

Electing Democrats to every office is the goal. From the DU Terms of Service:

In Democratic primaries, members may support whomever they choose. But when general election season begins, DU members must support Democratic nominees (EXCEPT in rare cases where a non-Democrat is most likely to defeat the conservative alternative, or where there is no possibility of splitting the liberal vote and inadvertently throwing the election to the conservative alternative). For presidential contests, election season begins when both major-party nominees become clear. For non-presidential contests, election season begins on Labor Day. Everyone here on DU needs to work together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. If you are bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for our candidates during election season, we'll assume you are rooting for the other side.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Yes. Meta posts are allowed. Disruptive Meta posts aren't.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:42 AM
Feb 2016

There is nothing disruptive about encouraging high Democratic voter turnout. That's what this post is about. That is what DU is about.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
9. Non-presidential primaries are OK in GD.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:51 AM
Feb 2016

The only topic restriction is that Democratic presidential primaries go to GD-P. People can use this forum to discuss, for example, Tim Canova's challenge to DWS.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
12. I hope people can see past their differences
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:01 PM
Feb 2016

Politics are always contentious but I don't think I've ever seen as much animosity between Democrats as when Bernie and Hillary supporters go at it.

I hope people can see past their differences in November. We've generally been good about pulling together for the general election, while Republicans have had more the reputation for sulking and staying home if their guy doesn't win the GOP nomination.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. That's my hope as well, and why
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

I've bailed from posting in GD-P. I won't participate any further in in-fighting. I can't. I will be supporting the nominee. That would be difficult for me if I openly opposed that nominee during the primaries.

The people will decide who the nominee will be. I'm good with that.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
14. Too much is at stake
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:19 PM
Feb 2016

Between Bernie and Hillary I have my preference, but my preference is irrelevant in November. Too much is at stake.

We've heard for the past few elections that the next one will be the most important in recent times, and for once I actually agree with the sentiment. We need the next President to build on the legacy of President Obama and help the country continue to build momentum in the right direction. Both Bernie and Hillary would do that in their own ways.

Republicans not only seek to halt that momentum but also to dismantle as much of President Obama's work as possible. The current crop of Republicans seeking the GOP nomination make people like McCain and Romney look progressive.

Even if my preference were to lose the nomination, if Democrats lose the general election because not enough people voted, the whole country loses.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. And yet the Primaries are the subject of this GD OP.
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:32 PM
Feb 2016

So what you are saying is 'you others must not do what I do constantly'.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
17. Not really. It even includes a 'from my point of view' statement about the Primaries, the very thing
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

you are saying should not be done in GD at all. It is titled and themed around the primary, gives your point of view on how all persons must behave in a primary and also says 'GOTV'.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. It's all about the general election, and
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 01:07 PM
Feb 2016

at stake the future of our democracy. We need to keep our eyes on the prize.

 

Matrosov

(1,098 posts)
19. One thing I've noticed about jury alerts
Mon Feb 22, 2016, 06:54 PM
Feb 2016

I get invited to DU Jury Service on a fairly regular basis. The newest alert was a few minutes ago and the previous one just yesterday.

Obviously I didn't serve on every single DU Jury Service, so this is just anecdotal evidence, but based on the alerts I've seen in recent weeks, the vast majority seem to be for posts in the Primaries forum or the Bernie or Hillary groups.

In a way you could say it's a sign that many Democrats are very passionate about the upcoming election, but as I've said I also hope that we can all forget about that in November and focus on Democratic victories.

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