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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSay Donald Trump wins the election and the nation plunges into chaos.
After Trump has decided to flee the country on Trump Force One Viktor Yanukovych style, leaving us peons to fend for ourselves, I have to wonder:
Would conservatives still try to blame the national crisis on President Obama? I honestly could see them doing that rather than admitting they were to blame.
Or would we all be too busy eating cat food and praying for the sea levels to rise to put us out of our misery for us to be concerned with the trivialities of partisan politics any longer?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)I think. Firefighters would show up when needed, driver's licences would be renewed, the snow would get plowed, cops would continue shooting unarmed black people.
Trump's, or Cruz's ability to FUBAR things would be limited to the federal level, and even those bureaucracies would chug along normally, for the most part.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)As scary as an ideologue as Cruz is, I get the sense the worst we'd see is a whole lot of whining because no one--not even his own party--would want to work with Slappy the Dummy just because he's so unlikeable and spiteful. So we'd probably get a lot of dysfunctional politics, but the normal day to day runnings of the federal government would probably continue as usual.
Trump, though, is a Cluster B headcase with absolutely no elective experience and with a track record of failing miserably at just about anything he touches. I shudder to think what someone of his infamous track record would do if he gets a hold of the US government.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)The President has the nuclear launch codes. There's no taking that back.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Bad for real estate values, and the Dumbold has always been interested in those. And he prides himself on being the deal-maker supreme.
Cruz, OTOH, would unleash armageddon in a second if he thought it would help bring baby jeezus back.
I worry about Trump. I am scared to death of Cruz.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Would Cruz's insane end-days theology or Trump's pathological bullying be more likely to get us killed?
The answer of course is that it doesn't matter cause you're dead.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Cruz is a walking smorgasbord of mental pathologies - megalomania with a messiah complex, anti-social personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, sadism, religulous delusions, and that's just a start.
Trump is a garden-variety loudmouthed, blowhard bully who will back down if the stakes are high enough. He doesn't want to blow himself up and deny his "magnificence" to the rest of us. I honestly think he only believes about 60% of what he says. He's a terminal attention hog, and the more outrageous he is the more attention he gets.
The country survived Richard Nixon and Ronald Raygun. It could, institutionally speaking, survive the Vulgar Talking Yam. I doubt it could survive Cruz, though.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Said he would definitely take Trump over Cruz, cause the courts and Congress would neutralize him, but he said Cruz is the most fanatical ideologue he has seen since Joseph McCarthy.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)agree completely. some people are going over the top on the "end of America" stuff.
And it's being mirrored on the other side as well.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)Even Gwb did, for that matter.
Trump has nada. Which wouldn't be fatal except that he's also a raging narcissist who cannot take a single word of criticism.
Inexperienced, stupid and mentally ill. It's a perfect recipe for disaster.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)Trumps spokesperson actually came out and said back in December-"Why bother having nuclear weapons if you're afraid to use them".
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)He would have almost zero to do with running the country. He's a media star and would continue to be. Lots of TV time, lots of photo ops but little actual work. Trump doesn't worry me at all really (no more than any other Republican, and probably less since he's not really a Republican at all). Bob Dole gave an interview and pretty much said that the GOP could work with Trump because he would have good advisers (aka people doing the real work). Cruz actually thinks he is capable of being president, thinks he is doing God's work, and would not listen to the advice of anyone. He is dangerous. Fortunately, the GOP wants nothing to do with him so they will crush him before he can get to the nomination.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Trump not so much.
Initech
(100,097 posts)Whether it's building that wall along the Mexican border or cutting trade with all of our allies. This would be the worst. And yes Ted Cruz also scares the crap out of me.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Jim__
(14,082 posts)I wouldn't be here when he takes office.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Sydney, N.S. native Rob Calabrese launched the tongue-in-cheek website, "Cape Breton If Donald Trump Wins," on Tuesday.
A website encouraging Americans to move to Cape Breton if Donald Trump becomes president is starting to get serious inquiries from U.S. residents.
The website has since amassed about 10,000 hits and Calabrese said he has received serious inquiries from Americans about life on the island and Canadian immigration requirements.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)No, seriously, that is one ridiculously good looking family. It should be a crime for an entire family to look that wonderful.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,885 posts)We Carter fans must stick together.
How about a mass exodus to somewhere warm instead?
How bout Australia?
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)Of course, with global warming and all, I'll expect it all to even out.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I think my husband would be open to it if any of the Repugnants win.
madokie
(51,076 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)so we'd survive. Although a lot would depend on who he'd pick for VP. If some more or less regular Republican, things would muddle on under that person's leadership. If he picked a non-politician, maybe some one of his cronies, if he has any, and I haven't a clue about that, things could move from bad to worse.
The curse of living in interesting times would fall on us all.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)who could get as much or more media coverage as Himself.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)trying to figure out what the hell she means every time she speaks.
It's as if no human language is her native one.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)earth has the option of just ignoring her.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)that most Americans would finally learn a foreign language, Palinspeak.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)I think we can survive a Trumping.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)nominate might make it difficult for most of us to survive for a very, very long time.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Fascists never admit mistakes. It's always the fault of the liberals, gays, minorities, Jews and non-Christians.
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