Yes ... those do go together.

...crap. I just kicked this thread. I purposely try to avoid doing that, but BB's post made me giggle.

That was just too funny!!

I miss the good old days when anti-war meant that one was a Bush hater.

Anti-war recognizes that it takes at least two parties to war, and both are wrong.

Anti-Obama propaganda focuses only on the actions of Obama.

until Bush got distracted into Iraq ... I think Obama is doing well to close down both. The killing of OBL was great ... removing our troops is great.

And ... I think that I would rather Obama approve the list of those targeted versus our President leaving such decisions to others.

You remind me of the tea party right wing folks who see a world that is black or white, with no grey.

Both of your groups have been wrong about Obama over and over btw ... he closed down Iraq. Most like you said he never would. Said he'd never end DADT. Said he's never draw down Afghanistan.

You are running out of things to be wrong about.

with Obama on Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen or the Philippines (or whatever other impoverished country our military, CIA, and other government institutions decide to bomb).

I've not once claimed that we wouldn't leave Iraq or Afghanistan. Nor have I ever said that he wouldn't end DADT.

I am against his bombing campaigns being waged in countries other than Iraq and Afghanistan because the aftermath is no better and often worse than doing nothing at all.

We've left one country destroyed, its infrastructure in shambles, hundreds of thousands killed and millions of its citizens displaced - homeless and on the brink of starvation. We've left a violent police state where, as Human Rights Watch puts it: