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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy friend and colleague died on Thursday night
Louis Lindsay was a UWI (University of the West Indies) and Yale graduate. He was a freaking genius of a political scientist.
Here's one of his great papers. He got it right 41 years ago.
http://www.normangirvan.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/the-myth-of-independence-louis-lindsay.pdf
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,727 posts)Independence in Jamaica ?
Is that akin to Independent Puerto Rico and Haiti?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)malaise
(269,144 posts)Norman Girvan or Kari Levitt on the subject (at Norman's link). Kari is Karl Polanyi's daughter - a wonderful lady - now in her 90s.
jalan48
(13,879 posts)Karl Polyani, he called the industrial factories of 1800's England "Satanic Mills".It was a real form of dystopia foisted upon the populace, pre-labor movement.
malaise
(269,144 posts)jalan48
(13,879 posts)Closing down the commons and forcing people into large cities where they would have to work in the capitalist's factories. Charles Dickens stuff. Thanks for the reminder about the book. I will check out the link.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Our ruling capitalists are attempting to engage in a race to the bottom.
polly7
(20,582 posts)HE sounds like a great man. I only read the first few pages but it's very interesting and I plan to read the rest later.
Peace and strength to you and all that knew and loved him.
RIP, Louis Lindsay.
malaise
(269,144 posts)which is irony on steroids - I just wish he hadn't been in a coma and had survived the timing of the results.
He hadn't been well for some time - he's finally in perpetual peace - the pain is over.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I'm so sorry.
But you're right, the most important part is that he no longer has to live in pain. Peace to you, malaise.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)You are my Sister and I feel pain when you feel pain.
Thank you for sharing your friend's work with us. Actions speak louder than words. Good deeds come from proper action.
A quick scan of "The Myth of Independence" includes reference to Dr. Frantz Fanon. The guy helped peel the blinders off my eyes.
Fanon consistently insisted that genuine struggle for independence was not in Algeria (nor can it be
elsewhere) simply anarchic expressions of accumulated anger. If the commitment to change and
collective redemption is a serious one, the process of becoming liberated will itself help to create (in fact
will be essential in creating) the dynamic of building, or organizing, of inventing the new society that
must come into being {37, p. 104}.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)-KamaAina, Y'85
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Or hear a Yale band called Beauty Constant? He played bass guitar. Here's a little 80's rock if you're in the mood.
http://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/2009/08/beauty-constant-like-enemy-1987.html
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)I remember Beauty Constant, but I was in Saybrook and seldom if ever got over to Pierson.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)ybbor
(1,555 posts)Stay strong!
pacalo
(24,721 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)with you in the loss of your friend.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Only if I were to write it, I'd say "An ordinary man leaves his footprints in the sand, wise men leave their footprints in granite".
Very sorry for your loss Malaise. You were lucky to know such a man.
redwitch
(14,946 posts)I am glad he left some good work behind.
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Independence from defunct colonialists does leave independence with new meaning, and I would suggest no direction -- for us. It is best for us to understand how others might view such independence from us as we create the same for them as it was before for us.
Prescient fellow.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)As I was reading The Myth of Independence: Middle Class Politics and Non-Mobilization in Jamaica I instantly thought it seemed familiar...it was part of the curriculum of my Freshman year "Intro to Comparative Politics" course. I hadn't remembered it but it had a longer impact on my view of political theory, international relations, and neocolonialism; the issues herein were not things I had ever thought about previously.
Being a Poli. Theory major rather than a Poli. Sci. major, we're often largely isolated from the real-world impacts of the philosophical questions that form the bedrock of our curriculum. It's glaring the first time you realize that the answers to these "bloodless" questions can have tangible real-world impacts.
It is an exceptional paper and one that more people outside of the political fields-of-study should read.
mckara
(1,708 posts)yellerpup
(12,253 posts)It's hard to lose a friend, especially one as special as Louis Lindsay.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that it doesn't hurt to lose them. Searching on his name pulled up many references to his work, and this paper in particular, but I noticed he doesn't have a Wikipedia entry. I don't know if you care about Wikipedia, but it still seems inappropriate. Perhaps someone might add one?
malaise
(269,144 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Obviously the legacy is passed on.
monmouth4
(9,709 posts)Omaha Steve
(99,686 posts)brer cat
(24,591 posts)mcar
(42,366 posts)Dr. Xavier
(278 posts)unfortunately, words can sometimes be insufficient but please be aware that our thoughts and prayers could be some comfort.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)My condolences.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)I'm sorry for the loss of your friend. Being in my 7th decade, I've lost too many friends. I find comfort in this sonnet - I hope you can as well.
SONNET 30
When to the sessions of sweet silent thought
I summon up remembrance of things past,
I sigh the lack of many a thing I sought,
And with old woes new wail my dear time's waste:
Then can I drown an eye, unus'd to flow,
For precious friends hid in death's dateless night,
And weep afresh love's long since cancell'd woe,
And moan the expense of many a vanish'd sight:
Then can I grieve at grievances foregone,
And heavily from woe to woe tell o'er
The sad account of fore-bemoaned moan,
Which I new pay as if not paid before.
But if the while I think on thee, dear friend,
All losses are restor'd and sorrows end.
mountain grammy
(26,642 posts)Thank you for the post. My cousin has lived in Jamaica for 40 years and I was lucky enough to finally visit a few years ago. What a wonderful experience. Stayed in the Long Bay area with my cousin, touring that side of the island in her old Subaru.
Beautiful place. Looking forward to reading you're friend's work.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Tab
(11,093 posts)but obviously someone with some brains was behind it. I'm sorry for your loss, but also OUR loss (in general) of a good thinker.
- Tab
malaise
(269,144 posts)he'd try to make his classmates read political works- Marx, Trotsky, Garvey et al.
Vinca
(50,300 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Peace to all who mourn him.
Initech
(100,097 posts)That happened to me last year, I know how it feels.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)Some wonderful people aren't replaceable in our lives.
My sympathy flows to you.
spanone
(135,857 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)He was indeed a great scholar.
Overseas
(12,121 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)robhalf4369
(31 posts)May he rest in peace.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,678 posts)It is so hard to go forward without them...I know.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I know we don't always agree (except about Serena!), but I'm sorry you've lost a friend.
I find this happening more and more as I grow older. Sigh.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)Peace to you and all who loved him.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)mmonk
(52,589 posts)2naSalit
(86,743 posts)librechik
(30,676 posts)condolences, malaise.