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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, how long until President Trump gets impeached, and what does he do that gets him thrown out?
With Democratic voter apathy and Trump's frothy base of scared and mean voters, it's almost a sure thing that we'll be stuck with Trump...until he gets impeached.
So what does he do, and how long does it take?
I'll give him 6 months before he's tossed out.
And btw who is going to be his VP?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The GOP finally is realizing it. and they are thinking of running a third party attempt to stop this. If they do... they will save Democratic bacon ass. There are legalities that might stop them... blessed be their hearts, after Perot they made it that much difficult to run an independent challenge in the GE.
I gotta wonder if this will lead to our cold civil war finally going hot as well.
Oh and his VEEP... I expect that to be somebody you have not heard from either.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)sorry
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Palin? Cruz? Christie? One of his Apprentice flunkies?
Goddess help us.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Fun exercise, but there's no chance he could win the general. A majority on the right rejects him, just as we would, and large percentages have said they wouldn't vote for him under any conditions. This is "The Donald" we're talking about, America's yooogest buffoon.
Bucky
(54,087 posts)basselope
(2,565 posts)I don't like him, but the guy isn't an idiot.
He knows how to play the game. He is saying what he needs to say to get the GOP nomination.
Choosing Kasich gives him the establishment cred he needs to get those hesitant voters on his side and it also gives him an inside Washington track and an easy Ohio win.
Why haven't people figured this out yet???
onenote
(42,779 posts)His whole electoral persona this primary season has been about criticizing the yelling and extreme positions and lack of decorum. Aligning himself with Trump would reveal his words to have been as hollow as his heart.
basselope
(2,565 posts)This happens in nearly EVERY presidential election.
Biden said that Obama was not ready to be president (among other criticism).
Obama attacked Hillary's foreign policy for her vote on the Iraq war and then made her secretary of state (obviously a back room deal to get her back off the Super Delegate risk).
George HW Bush called Reaganomics "Voodoo economics".
This goes on ALL the time.
Trump will choose Kasich, which will ensure Ohio goes to the GOP against Clinton.
Funtatlaguy
(10,890 posts)A black female.
Many exploding heads...lol.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)He thinks he can do that.
lapfog_1
(29,227 posts)he will name sarah palin or michele bachmann as his VP, thus precluding the impeachment action you envision, not to mention getting some votes from tea party women who might otherwise have voted for clinton.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)Selling nights in the Lincoln Bedroom to the highest bidder.
Auctioning rides on Hairforce One to the highest bidder.
Selling nude photos of Melania in the Oval Office.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,374 posts)"JP Morgan Bedroom"
or, hopefully,
"Lincoln-Mercury Bedroom"
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)no impeachment
Bucky
(54,087 posts)I'm sure he's already figuring out how getting a new wife in the 7th year of his term in office qualifies him for two additional elections. Sure, it's a nutty and factless argument. I'm guessing that by 2024 no one will remember what the Constitution even is.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)That's why I want him to be the GOP nominee.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)Trump already has the South locked up. Locked. Up. He has the redneck vote completely locked up. Anywhere there are a lot of rural voters, they'll be coming out in droves to vote for Trump because he knows how to appeal to them. Before the election even starts, Trump will win North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, Texas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Utah, Montana, Arkansas, Missouri, and he'll make a very strong push for Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia. In fact, I'll bet that Trump takes Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Virginia, and the election will come down to Florida. And you sure as hell don't want that happening again.
People said the same thing about Ronald Reagan. Surely people wouldn't vote for that kind of lightweight. Surely people would vote for someone of substance. Nope. Elected, and elected again in the biggest wipeout in electoral history. Spawned the Bush family dynasty. 30 fucking years of neocon policies. You don't think the country is stupid enough to elect Trump? Think again. The only way to prevent it is for Democrats to get off their asses, get motivated, unify behind whomever wins the nomination, and get the fucking vote out in record numbers - because the goddamn idiocracy is coming for us. Right. NOW.
meow2u3
(24,774 posts)HRC and Bernie are pretty popular here in PA, especially in Philly and Pittsburgh.
MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)lastlib
(23,316 posts)Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people in large numbers, someone said. (or should've said......) Exhibit A: Reagan. Exhibit B: GWB/Cheney. Cruz. Rubio. Santorum. Huckabee. Sarah Palin. Jesse Helms. Strom Thurmond. Nixon/Agnew. Scott Walker. Sam Brownback. Rick Scott. Mark Sanford.......
Yes, given the opportunity, the American people WILL vote stoopid! BELIEVE it!!
onenote
(42,779 posts)His nomination will fracture the repub party. Already there are folks coming out and arguing that if he gets the nomination, repub voters should hold their nose and vote for the Democratic candidate.
There will a concerted effort to make supporting Trump the most uncool thing around.
There is a simple reason that the elected repub officials endorsing him are almost all folks who are not going to be running for anything in 2016 (like Christie or Brewer) or are in totally safe seats (Sessions, who got over 90 percent of the vote in his last race).
I'm in DC and repubs here are scared shitless about a Trump candidacy. He's the third rail. Rubio supporters hate him as do Cruz supporters. And while some may hold their noses and vote for Trump, others will simply sleep in on election day or vote for Clinton based on the cover that will be given them by republican columnists like Kathleen Parker, Jennifer Rubin, and probably even George Will.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)Where there are tons of people who are going to vote for Trump. Virginia isn't just a suburb outside of DC. It's mainly rural, and Trump is attracting droves of white, rural voters. None of them are paying any attention to Parker, Rubin, or Will.
onenote
(42,779 posts)Which means he doesn't currently have the support of 60 percent of the repub voters. And there will be a measurable number of those 60 percent who will not support Trump after he's trashed their candidates.
They may not vote for the Democrat, but a bunch of them will stay home. Enough for a Democrat to win Tennessee? Unlikely. But in other more purple states -- the states that ultimately determine the outcome -- you bet it could swing the outcome to either Bernie or Clinton.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)They'll switch over to the Republican nominee, even if it's Trump. Rural whites absolutely will not vote Democratic, and the second that Trump is solely focused on insulting Democrats, they'll forgive him and love him for it.
onenote
(42,779 posts)who will not vote for Trump under any circumstances.
I'm not worried about what will happen in Tennessee. It's the purple states that I'm focused on.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)He always gets 30%. That means 70% don't want him. If that 70% hasn't yet supported him, why would they if it were down to two people? Anyway, a candidate needs 50% to be the nominee. If none of them get that, it will go to a brokered convention and the delegates will decide. Rumor has it they will put up Paul Ryan because as Speaker of the House, he is the highest ranking republican.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Unlike us, they don't anoint someone king or queen (2000 and 2016), and have a fair primary with a lot of candidates. McCain and Romney won with similar amounts, sometimes less.
Reter
(2,188 posts)Providing that dog is 35 and natural born. Not sure if dog years would count though.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not that I think he will end up being the Republican nominee.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)Trump voters are highly motivated. They're coming out in record numbers. If Hillary wins the nomination, you'll see Bernie voters staying home in a fit of poutrage. If Bernie somehow wins the election, you'll see Hillary voters staying home in a fit of poutrage. It's because there are way too many Democratic voters who are too fucking stupid to see that Trump would surpass W as the worst president in history. There ought to be record numbers of Democrats out there. Instead, it's whine, whine, whine, apathy. I'm just gonna take my vote and go home. I read a reply post in another thread that they couldn't return the "Sexual Harasser In Chief" to the White House. Hey, the 90's called. They want Ken Starr back. Seriously, fuck that moron. That's just the kind of thing that will put Trump in the White House. It's because, as Bill Maher said, "People need to learn the difference between an imperfect friend and a deadly enemy." And our party is too goddamn dumb to do that.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Electoral map is extremely favorable as far as I can tell.
I would think that HRC would beat Trump with non-white voters by very wide margins.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)And that's not a comment on Hillary. It's a comment on Republican vs. Democratic turnout in the primaries. Republicans are turning out in record numbers. Trump is bringing droves of people out who mistake rude, blowhard douchebaggery for strength.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He has such high unfavorable ratings even among Republicans. And he will also have limited to no support from minorities.
GaYellowDawg
(4,449 posts)A lot of these polls are done with prior voters and "likely voters" - but Trump will be bringing a lot of low-information people out who normally don't vote.
Angel Martin
(942 posts)this election is competitive. Whoever is nominated on either side has a chance to win.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_clinton-5635.htmlhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/oh/ohio_trump_vs_clinton-5634.html
MuttLikeMe
(279 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Neither Bernie nor Hillary will blow Trump out of the water. It's gonna be close, and the Rust Belt states will be in play -- there's a significant, disproportionate number of working-class white voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Trump's shtick could play well in the region...and that means 64 electoral votes are up for grabs.
onenote
(42,779 posts)And the likelihood of the repubs coming together in a big loveliest for Trump if he gets the nomination are infinitesimal.
RichGirl
(4,119 posts)In 2008 when it looked like it was in the bag for Obama, Bill Clinton as a super delegate voted for Obama. He did that to "heal the rift". He wanted to make sure that Hillary's supporters moved to Obama quickly. That's what they always do. Doesn't matter how severely they attack each other...both want the same thing....a democratic president.
Skittles
(153,212 posts)Response to NightWatcher (Original post)
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hunter
(38,335 posts)... and they were not impeached. Hell, Cheney shot a guy in the face and made him apologize for getting in the way.
This U.S.A. isn't what you think it is.
We are the top banana of the American banana republics, not a true "first world" social democracy. Even our elections are suspect.
basselope
(2,565 posts)And the GOP will NOT impeach him.
Mike Nelson
(9,972 posts)...handily by Hillary.
rockfordfile
(8,706 posts)Don't become complacent if Trump is their nominee.
madokie
(51,076 posts)make of it what you will. tRump is a crazy sumbiotch
Scully
(60 posts)He will have a reality show to choose the veep from a selection of entrepreneurs, and will market it with the tagline "YOU get to choose". It will of course conclude with Trump deciding America is too stupid to decide and him appointing a corporate crony.
Help us all....
Baobab
(4,667 posts)position by removing everything of economic importance from the list of things they or Congress, or the Senate, etc, can alter.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)six months before quitting, also. Paul Ryan ends up being president and he then quits, setting up a constitutional crisis.
karadax
(284 posts)They're pals. Trump knows what he needs to do in order to win. Carry a traditionally blue state. New York. What better way than with the guy that did great things to clean up NYC. Oh and he's got the 9/11 thing down cold too.
Reter
(2,188 posts)They already think Trump is weak on abortion and gay marriage.
Pisces
(5,602 posts)dembotoz
(16,862 posts)Turbineguy
(37,372 posts)strategy. But, it's the GOP so they'll probably pick Sarah Palin to be VP.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I don't know what it will be, but I doubt he'd last a week before doing something impeachable.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)51 percent of the House of Representatives says it is. If there is a GOP House, they will be thrilled to have a Republican in the White House -- even Trump.
There's more of a likelihood that if Mrs. Clinton manages to be elected, she will be impeached by the beginning of February 2017. Whether she will be convicted in the Senate is another question, but with a GOP House, impeachment is all but a given.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Because that is what they need a President to do, sign whatever shit they send to him.
Better hope a President Trump doesn't break his hand.
yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)Big Guess is when He tells Mexico to pay for the wall, or else...and they refuse.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...do you really think a GOP House would vote to impeach? I certainly don't...