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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI really hate Republicans, I really do
The smarminess, the lying, the racism, the sexism, and hate that they have for poor and working people and just plain old people in general
How these people can live with themselves is impossible to understand.
dems_rightnow
(1,956 posts)Do you hate poor ones, working ones, and old ones?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I hate those motherfuckers too.
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)...they re-inforce the lie that "Conservatism" is the default main-stream of accepted values in America. Truth is.. most "Conservatism" is based in racial hatred.
Just look at Billy Graham, Robert Schuller, Jerry Falwell and others.. who have made a FORTUNE exploiting the religious zealots and a brain washed population over the years.
Now that the media is totally controlled.. there isn't much chance that things will chnge.
Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)...then reform of the airwaves should be an issue. I know we can do it. We fought for healthcare and won. We can do this too. For the sake of our democracy, we can do this. We just have to find a Senator who will back us. Brown (Ohio) Sanders? Boxer? Fraken? Mike Malloy asks the question all the time, "did I ever tell you how much I hate these people?"
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)We must unite behind Obama for that and getting rid of Citizens United
Skittles
(153,212 posts)SERIOUSLY deluded
Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)"Hate".
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)And that usually comes out from being exposed to right wing assholes.
Those scum bags disgust me.
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)WingDinger
(3,690 posts)members with the ugly language they use on the internet, I would get in their faces. And if they made a move, flatten them. Somehow, they need to start paying for their slander.
Skittles
(153,212 posts)THEY ARE DESTROYING AMERICA
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)If someone is calling themselves a conservative, if they're voting for these teabagger fart-for-brains, then my perception is that they are actively trying to harm me.
They want to bust unions? Okay, they're actively trying to force a government-mandated pay cut and reduction of benefits for me.
They want to make homosexuality illegal? Fine, that means they're crusading against several relatives of mine.
They want to mandate their religion? That means they're trying to strip me of my right to not believe in it.
They want all abortion illegal in all cases? Okay, then they're saying they want my older sister to have suffered the full brunt of that ectopic pregnancy
They want to arm the border and funnel immigrants through the Sonora? Then they're wishing some friends of mine were dead.
They want to crack open new wars all over the world? Then they're saying they want my little sister to get shot at.
They want to fight any and all environmental measures? They're saying they want my future kids to live in a polluted, flooded cesspit.
They want to shred welfare and install austerity measures? They're saying I should have spent the years between 7 and 17 living in a dumpster or dead, since we relied strongly on welfare programs in my youth.
They tell me all of this when they say "I'm conservative," or "I vote Republican." I don't hate them - hate's too intimate, it'd be like fucking them - but I do not regard them as people I should spare any effort in getting to know or like, unless they seem willing to throw away their hatred of me.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)DCKit
(18,541 posts)Accuse them of their actions and personal slights and it's always "Why are you attacking me?" Whatever they did to you, poor people, people of color, the elderly or children is already justified in their tiny little minds - and they believe they're in the right.
Have to agree with the OP, I hate the new Republicans. Without our societal constraints, they'd become serial killers. By using "the law", they're serial killers with clean hands.
Heads-up Mr. President, sociopaths are running our wars against Pakistan and Afghanistan. Replace them.
Rittermeister
(170 posts)But the idea that every, or even a large majority, of Republicans are sociopaths goes against decades of psychological research. It's been a while since I took general psychology, but I seem to recall that sociopaths only make up around 1% of the human race. The rest of them are blind, stupid, ignorant, or something.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)It's at least 5% sociopathic, and there's another 15% who Idolize their bullying behavior. In total, that's 20%, just shy of the 23% who stood by Bush* when he was at his lowest and meanest. Never before have those numbers made more sense. If the Republican "majority" isn't sociopathic, they certainly identify with sociopaths - punish everyone who's not like me.
Among that sick 5%, the unambitious go for jobs where they can directly control and have power over people (police, jail guards, vice principle, serial killer), the ambitious ones go for jobs where they can negatively impact the lives of many people - let your imagination run wild - there are tons of them in Congress and more than a few aspiring to be pResident.
When I think of Mitt Romney, I think of my dad. Why? Because they're the same guy, 'cept Dad wasn't born with a silver spoon up his ass and isn't worth a quarter billion now. Other than that, their personalities are identical. He'd steal from his own kids in a heartbeat.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)See a therapist perhaps?
Not good to have so much hate in you...
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I sleep very well.
Even if I am completely disgusted by those assholes.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Taverner
(55,476 posts)Brooklyn Dame
(169 posts)Rhiannon12866
(206,224 posts)My Democratic congressman lost to a teabagger last term largely because he voted in favor of health care reform. I went to his debate and he was shouted down by an audience full of grey haired, red shirted senior citizens. Senior citizens against health care?!
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)I just think they're wrong about so many things.
"Hate" is, IMO, an irrational emotion. As one poster above alluded, harboring all that hate on the inside only hurts the hater, not the object of that hate.
Zanzoobar
(894 posts)And, it's reasonably easy to hate someone and stomp on their foot all at the same time.
Nobody ever said you have to hold it in.
Seeking Serenity
(2,840 posts)That is all.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)by the extremists, the Koch teabaggers. There must be some moderate conservatives out there.
You can purge your hate here, but that won't help win back our Democracy.
I support OWS, they are our future and gaining momentum every day. BRAVO!
And to the people of Wisconsin, the cheese heads, the tough badgers, sending all good vibes for tomorrow. We can do it!
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)when my republican relatives tell me how there's no reason for affirmative action, or laws to guarantee equal pay for equal work, or how women should pay for birth control out of pocket, or how my generation should accept vouchers for medicare and give up on social security after paying in for twenty some years. I love it when they rail against the working class calling them lazy and dependent incensed that their tax dollars might go to help someone in need while simultaneously championing shoveling more money to people already insanely wealthy. Why they think a working mother would want to be an audience to their idiocy and hypocrisy is beyond me. I try to just view it as entertainment...an illustration in insanity.
Republicans should be ashamed. But they are too stubborn.
Baitball Blogger
(46,764 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Republican characteristics...I sometimes think between the GOP politicians and their Flying Monkey surrogates it's a good thing there is no God...or he'd rain fire and brimstone down on the USA for sure.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Stick around. I like the cut of your jib.
handmade34
(22,758 posts)we are self-destructing fine, all by ourselves, w/o God's help
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Makes sense to me. They started it.
RZM
(8,556 posts)The country is divided roughly in half, so whichever side does the best job of poaching the other side's people is going to win. And if you want to win by a large margin (i.e. have a 'mandate') then it's absolutely essential that you get votes from the other side.
Therefore, this is not going to cut it:
'Come over here to our side, you idiotic, racist, sexist liars. We hate you!'
How about this instead:
'Come over here to our side. We may not agree on everything, but if you give us a listen, you might come away thinking that we have a better plan to get this country back on track than the other side does.'
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)I usually harken back to the scenes in sci-fi movies where the scientists are saying that we should reason with the alien invaders who are currently blowing out shit to kingdom come.
I'm not interested in recruiting these people, that's how we end up with Blue Dogs. That's how we end up with our asses handed to us.
I'm ONLY interested in beating them. They're nothing more than bullies, and bullies are made manageable when you beat them down.
The people who don't vote are the ones we need to woo
Wingers are hopeless cases, my friend.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)We have tried that. Their "game" does not include compromise or reasoning.
And there is nothing truer than that we MUST get the people on the fence to come over the fence to our side.
RZM
(8,556 posts)Some are registered Republicans. Others are former Republicans but are disillusioned. Still others aren't sure where they stand.
And by insulting everybody on the right, you're insulting some of them too, not to mention their friends, co-workers, and family members.
That's the problem with advertising hate and using insults. While the intended target may be those who are unreachable, plenty of people in the center will get caught in the crossfire and end up as 'collateral damage.' It just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)We know that there are plenty of Freepers trolling around, but those are the ones who are unreachable. The people on the fence are not the ones who are normally on Dem or Rep websites. Don't worry too much about the rant offending them.
You are right, we should not advertise hate----but that rant would have been silly if it had all the exceptions added. "I hate Republicans, well, I mean I hate the ones who have their heads up their asses. That is to say the ones who will not even listen to reason, you know the ones I mean. I don't mean you people on the fence. I don't mean the Reps who are willing to vote for a Dem sometimes. No, I don't mean you."
RZM
(8,556 posts)Though it probably gets more moderate lurkers/visitors than we might think.
And while the internet is not real life, it is something of a reflection of real life. The attitudes people advertise here are similar to those they express at the workplace, around family, and to pollsters etc.
I guess it's just not for me. I'm not full of anger and vitriol. And that's not just because I think it's counterproductive, but also because it just isn't my style.
RZM
(8,556 posts)You beat them by turning out your own base and winning as much as you can in the center at the same time. And hate isn't going to win you much in the center. Hate can help you turn out your own base a little, but it can easily end up as a wash because it motivates the other base at the same time.
rurallib
(62,460 posts)today's republican is not much like his daddy or grand daddy. They do not compromise nor give an inch.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I don't know where to start regarding what I hate about Republicans...they think that a person's work ethic is measured by their pocketbook, and that people choose to be poor and dependent on government help. They've lied about Democrats wanting to take away everybody's guns. Most of them oppose advancement of ethnic and racial minorities and want to play the "reverse-discrimination" card. The higher-ups in the party want to con their less affluent voters to vote for more tax cuts for "job creators" and cuts to safety net programs so that the rich can continue to get pampered while the rest of us continue to be without jobs and basic necessities. They constantly try to frame it as if Obama is a "European Socialist", while neglecting the fact that some European countries have been well off under socialist policies. They lie about the existence of a liberal bias in the media, even though most of the media is corporately-owned (even the supposedly liberal MSNBC). They lie about their party standing for individual freedom, when all they want is to control other people's lives by opposing the right of gays to marry and women's right to get abortions.
If the GOP suddenly disappeared off the face of the Earth today, I would not shed a tear at all. That party has done very little for America except impede progress and fear-monger.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)...I would hold a giant kegger!
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)I'm sure there must be a few republicans who, deep down, aren't the hateful bigots their party really represents. They're just wrong, misguided in some way.
But there are others who really are borderline sociopaths who simply don't give a shit about anybody else. This enables them to hold a right wing world view.
pa28
(6,145 posts)As Breitbart said; Republicans don't want to just beat us they want to destroy us.
These guys are vikings who want to burn your house down, drown your family and then laugh about it. You won't rot in hell for hating them.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)and the family members and friends who support them and yet don't act in ways that would indicate support for those policies or ideals completely mystify me.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)Some are vindictive assholes but most are just naive.
WingDinger
(3,690 posts)to influence the truly ignorant.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)This is good too:
I also hold no fondness for "Centrist" politicians with a "D" after their name
who think that Republicans have a lot of good ideas,
and go out of their way to enable them and their policies.
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)... the pandering to the wealthy elite... the union busting...
rury
(1,021 posts)There is a time to love and a time to hate...
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)I couldn't believe that they turned on the victims of 9/11 families. disgusting!
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-207_162-1690954.html
Skittles
(153,212 posts)I suspect these people sleep just fine because they only worry about themselves
TxVietVet
(1,905 posts)Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)Or maybe they're just less evolved.
Flaxbee
(13,661 posts)And I know this sounds woo-woo metaphysical, but the more hatred you pump into this universe, the more fuel the Republicans have to use.
Darkness and hatred are forces. Don't contribute to them.
I have a very hard time not doing so; I see their policies jeopardizing my family and this planet, so I'm not being smug and superior, here - but I do think that you need to be careful what sort of 'vibes' you launch.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I was trying to express the same sentiments, but having a hard time doing it.
It's sometimes very difficult not to give in to the hatred.
I have to believe that love and nonviolence, as lived by Gandhi, MLK, and other great teachers of change, will eventually overcome as long as we continue to tell our adversaries, "There is a place for you at our table if you will choose to join us."*
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*[font face="Arial"]From Starhawk, The Fifth Sacred Thing, one of my all-time favorite books. [/font face="Verdana"]
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Those are the traits I detest in them. I can pick them out in a crowd by just looking at them. Whether driving down the road or shopping in a store, they're the ones that think it's all about them. Only their needs, wants and desires matter.
tabatha
(18,795 posts)How the fuck can they call themselves moral and civilized.
(I usually don't use the F word often.)
unkachuck
(6,295 posts)....I completely agree....I'm dismayed by the fact that this election will be mainly a referendum on how well Obama and the Dems have cleaned up the god-awful Republican economic mess....yet none of my conservative 'friends' want to see it that way....unbelievable....
bawieland
(17 posts)I'm not going to get into a discussion of how many angels on the head of a pin, whether I hate every last Republican or just the ones who are traitors to our nation (and mark my word, many of them are...) I don't need to enumerate which of the ones I hate and which I can tolerate. But I will say this: I hate their agenda. I hate their methods. I hate the ones who oppress the vulnerable to give favors to friends. I hate the ones who betray their state and their nation to push their extremist goals. I hate the ones who seem to get a thrill out of shaming the poor. I hate the ones who hate me, as a woman in a relationship with another woman. And I'm OK with my hate. It keeps me warm at night. It makes me wake up in the morning. It motivates me to get to work and to do something about the destruction they are trying to bring into our world. It gives me focus. So, I hate. And that's OK, at least for now.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)You're amongst friends.
Voltaire
(2,639 posts)And I will not ever apologize for that hate.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)My entire blood and married family is conservative Republican. I shake my head every damn day at how such reasonable, caring people believe in such hateful policies, and wonder how they support such hateful people.
But I can't say I hate all Republicans, because that would include my family.
barbtries
(28,811 posts)really. there are some that i love because i'm related to them, but we no longer talk politics. they could even be democrats by now.
eta: i also hate them because they inspire me to hate. i don't want that in me. but there it is.
irisblue
(33,036 posts)for all the evil they have done and forall the evil they will say and all the evil they will do.