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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/27/1492350/-1905-Precedent-Allows-Obama-to-Appoint-SCJ-without-Consent-Corrected-VersionSo, President Obamas legal right to appoint a Supreme Court Judge without Advice and Consent of the Senate, being founded on an actual historical precedent by President Theodore Roosevelt that applied to the more stringent Constitutional guideline for treaties rather than non-legal nor binding statements Republicans have of late referred to as Biden Rules and Schumer Rules, is actually a far stronger, more Constitutionally-protected, right, than the Republican Senates right to not even consider granting Consent to a potential Obama Supreme Court nominee. Again, we can simply apply Roosevelts statement, The Constitution did not explicitly give me power to bring about the necessary agreement with Santo Domingo. But the Constitution did not forbid my doing what I did, to the less stringent Constitutional guideline for appointing Supreme Court Justices, and President Obama has more than enough legal justification to make the appointment, and leave it to the courts to decide whether or not his appointment is Constitutionally protected.
The second key point here is that the U.S. Constitution makes no further statements about the matter, leaving any additional interpretation entirely in the hands of a Federal Court hearing that has not yet taken place. And so, according to the 1905 Teddy Rules, President Obama has the Constitutional right to first appoint a Judge to fill the present SCOTUS vacancy, and then wait, as did Roosevelt with his treaty, to see what the Senate decides to do.
The faint-hearted among us who worry about there being enough precedent for Obama to go forward on this with a clear conscience, and sufficient legal backing, can take solice in recalling how for many decades precedent was fully on the side of limiting campaign donations until the Republican-led Supreme Court upended that precedent with Citizens United v. FEC, or recall how the 2000 Republican-led Supreme Court stopped the Florida vote recounting process when it became clear to them that Democrat Al Gore would defeat Republican contender George W. Bush unless they stopped that recount.
elleng
(131,103 posts)both instances appearing in the same sentence in Article II, Section 2, paragraph 2, where it states:
[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
We notice that while a presidents power, by and with Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make treaties, requires a full two thirds of the Senators present to concur, the presidents similar power to appoint Judges of the Supreme Court requires only the Advice and Consent of the Senate majority. The first key point here is that a presidents power to make treaties is more severely constrained by the Constitution than is his power to appoint Supreme Court Judges.
Now lets look at the precedent. In 1905, President Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican, negotiated a treaty without Senate Advice and Consent for a full two years before the Senate finally rejected the action. Roosevelt, on page 510 of his 1913 An Autobiography, details his actions and his reasoning as follows:
The Constitution did not explicitly give me power to bring about the necessary agreement with Santo Domingo. But the Constitution did not forbid my doing what I did. I put the agreement into effect, and I continued its execution for two years before the Senate acted; and I would have continued it until the end of my term, if necessary, without any action by Congress. But it was far preferable that there should be action by Congress, so that we might be proceeding under a treaty which was the law of the land and not merely by a direction of the Chief Executive which would lapse when that particular executive left office. I therefore did my best to get the Senate to ratify what I had done.'>>>
Interesting, but imagine the brouhaha (MILD term) if he should try this. And can you think of a judge who would voluntarily subject him/herself to it???
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)because they really are just obstructing.
Let him do it. Pick the scariest judge ever - a TOTAL LIBERAL.
I like the argument.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)former9thward
(32,077 posts)So I don't see what the point is. Obama can certainly nominate someone but they would not be able to go onto the court until confirmed. Roosevelt negotiated a new treaty two years later and that was ratified by the Senate.