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WASHINGTON (AP) Republicans can blame their united stand against President Barack Obama for their party's splintering.
Conservatives' gut-level resistance to all things Obama the man, his authority, his policies gave birth to the tea party movement that powered the GOP to political success in multiple states and historic congressional majorities. Yet contained in the movement and its triumphs were the seeds of destruction, evident now in the party's fracture over presidential front-runner Donald Trump.
Obama's policies, from the ambitious 2010 law overhauling the health care system to moving unilaterally on immigration, roiled conservatives who decried his activist agenda and argued about constitutional overreach. "Quasi-socialist," says Tea Party Express.
Republicans rode that anger to majority control of the House in 2010 and an eye-popping net gain of 63 seats as voters elected tea partyers and political outsiders. Four years later, the GOP claimed the Senate, too.
For all the numbers, though, Republicans were unable to roll back Obama administration policies or defeat the Democratic president in 2012, further infuriating the GOP base.
Now the party of Abraham Lincoln is engaged in a civil war, pitting establishment Republicans frightened about a election rout in November against the unpredictable Trump, who has capitalized on voter animosity toward Washington and politicians.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/seeds-of-gop-splinter-in-opposition-to-all-things-obama/ar-BBqnqs5?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=edgsp
Thanks Obama
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and the prehistory in the reagan revolution actually.
Of course, this woudl be unknown to the propaganda department, I swear minitrue is real.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Evolution/devolution at work before our eyes?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)so conservative dems will get rid of their liberal wing... worst case both parties are having serious issues, though one is more sub-rosa than the other.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Do you want "conservative Dems" to "get rid of their liberal wing?"
Anyway, I hope the Dems are not dividing in the same way, as I don't see that as a positive.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the two major parties in the US switch, 180. So ten to twenty years, Labor will vote for the Rs, and business will vote for the Ds, (and this is already happening) So the liberal dems will become liberal Rs This is part and parcel of US History, I predicted this during the Bush administration as well as the spit, on this site. So the only thing surprising about this, is that the press is finally talking about this.
We are in the midst of that, or I have made a reference to 1824, but the issues with the base for the dems, are just as serious, if not as obviously There are ways that both parties will come out of the nominating season unlike whatever they entered before it, The forces are in play, and most in the DNC are just whistling past the graveyard.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)Well, I'll watch and see if you're correct.
qwlauren35
(6,150 posts)Clinton and Sanders are splitting the Democratic party quite effectively, and I'm sure Republicans are loving to watch. Think about all of the people who say they'll stay home rather than vote for the current front-runner in the campaign. Which party am I talking about??? Both.
I don't know why there is so much glee in watching the Republicans when we have problems in our own back yard.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I am a journalist, but my training was in history, so I just watch this at this point with an open notebook.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I posted it here earlier in the week, but it goes more into the forces at play.
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)BeyondGeography
(39,379 posts)UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)This is exactly the truth. Bill Maher said it best last night, as have others. THEY created this and now they have to deal with the repercussions. I just hope that the Democratic nominee, particularly if its Hillary can be motivating enough to win the general because I was laughing about Trump being able to win but not so much anymore.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)More Americans are more pissed off about more aspects of government (politics, the economy, the media, the "establishment" now than at any time I can remember.
Including the time of the height of protests over the Vietnam war.
Mock trump all you want, but don't be so quick to dismiss out of hand the concerns of his supporters. You may learn too late that some of your supporters share those concerns.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,730 posts)Probably saving our hospitals?
You mean, that guy?l