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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 08:43 AM Jun 2012

Are We at a Demographic Inflection Point? (new migration trends)

Old people have been moving to Florida for the past several years, and old people will move there for the next few years. Immigrants have been streaming in from Mexico, and they will continue to do so. You get the idea.

Most of the time these forecasts prove right. But sometimes there are inflection points, times when some trends stop and others begin. My read of recent demographic data suggests we may be at such a point right now.

My prediction is that we won't ever again see the heavy Latin immigration we saw between 1983 and 2007, which averaged 300,000 legal immigrants and perhaps as many illegals annually. Mexican and other Latin birthrates fell more than two decades ago. And Mexico, source of 60 percent of Latin immigrants, is now a majority-middle-class country.

Asian immigration may continue, primarily from China and India, especially if we have the good sense to change our laws to let in more high-skill immigrants. But the next big immigration source, I think, will be sub-Saharan Africa. We may end up with prominent politicians who actually were born in Kenya.

http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/story/are-we-demographic-inflection-point

The author does not give much justification for thinking that Sub-Saharan Africa will be the big immigration source, so that's a little hard to see. If Hispanic immigration continues to fall and that from Asia remains fairly constant, there will be a new ethnic look to immigration regardless of how much new immigration comes from Africa.

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Are We at a Demographic Inflection Point? (new migration trends) (Original Post) pampango Jun 2012 OP
It's been something projected for some time. Bucky Jun 2012 #1
Nice insight into Mexico's potential in the future. pampango Jun 2012 #3
prediction 1: Asians .Pacific islanders will swell in US lunasun Jun 2012 #2
And then EVERYONE w/migrate North during cont'd global warming. Animals & plants have already begun: cyberpj Jun 2012 #4

Bucky

(54,087 posts)
1. It's been something projected for some time.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:01 AM
Jun 2012

Mexico's immigration into the United States is slowing down, but not stopping. Emigration (or re-emigration) from the US to Mexico is accellerating, but anyone in Texas who's had their eyes open can tell you it's always been going on. Mexico is in an excellent position to become a major world player in the 21st century. They have a technologically focused economy with a strong manufacturing base, a political commitment to education, and a geographical positioning on two oceans (one of only three nations in the world to be so situated). Although they have the capacity to be energy self sufficient, unlike Russia their export policy is not focusing mostly on exporting energy resources. Also unlike Russia, they still have a growing rather than a shrinking population.

China could get ugly in the next 50 years. All that prosperity, unevenly distributed, and all those repressed ethnic minorities stuffed under an authoritarian regime are going to bite China in the butt eventually. When it blows, expect a massive surge in Chinese immigrants.

Africa actually could be a major source of immigration, too. But the US will be competing with Europe for the best of the skilled African immigrants. With them, we share the concern of an aging population. Most European countries are shrinking in population. If it weren't for immigration, we would be too. Someone's got to change all those bedpans. We'll win the competition for immigrants, of course, because we always win. I doubt Europeans will outgrow their xenophobia before midcentury.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
3. Nice insight into Mexico's potential in the future.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jun 2012

China will have to change dramatically to avoid the future that you outline.

Whether African immigration focuses on Europe or North America will be interesting. Europe is closer and their xenophobia is declining (no thanks to certain far-right parties there) but it is still higher than here.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
2. prediction 1: Asians .Pacific islanders will swell in US
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:00 AM
Jun 2012

and Europeans with middle east or Eurasian heritage who will be trying to get here as the multi troubles continue there

prediction 2: High-skill immigrants will return to the booming countries of origin like India or China after internship /education abroad in places like US who will not open work laws

prediction 3: Conservative Meccas like FL + AZ will continue to attract old farts and eventually drain those state's elderly social services they so despise and vote to lessen
imo

 

cyberpj

(10,794 posts)
4. And then EVERYONE w/migrate North during cont'd global warming. Animals & plants have already begun:
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jun 2012
Animals Moving More Quickly From Warming
A wide range of species are migrating at a faster rate than previously estimated.
Aug 18, 2011

THE GIST:
- Animals are fleeing global warming much faster than they were less than a decade ago.
- A study found about 2,000 species are moving north at a rate of more than 15 feet a day.

Climate change appears to be forcing many of the world's creatures to migrate to more favorable locales up to three times faster than previously believed, a study said Thursday.

Researchers compiled past studies on species migration and combined them into a meta-analysis that showed a clear trend toward cooler climates, with the fastest moves in places where heating was most intense.

"These changes are equivalent to animals and plants shifting away from the equator at around 20 centimeters per hour, for every hour of the day, for every day of the year," said project leader Chris Thomas, biology professor at the University of York.

http://news.discovery.com/animals/animals-migrating-north-global-warming-110818.html
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