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liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:42 PM Mar 2016

I've been surrounded by stubborn Reagan humpers all day.

So I need to let off some steam. Since they won't listen to me, maybe some smart open minded people will.

Heres the 10 Reasons Why Reagan Was The Worst President Of Modern Times

1. Reagan cut taxes for the Rich, increased taxes on the Middle Class -

Ronald Reagan is loved by conservatives and was loved by big business throughout his presidency and there's a reason for it. When Reagan came into office in January of 1981, the top tax rate was 70%, but when he left office in 1989 the top tax rate was down to only 28%. As Reagan gave the breaks to all his rich friends, there was a lack of revenue coming into the federal government. In order to bring money back into the government, Reagan was forced to raise taxes eleven times throughout his time in office. One example was when he signed into law the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982. Reagan raised taxes seven of the eight years he was in office and the tax increases were felt hardest by the lower and middle class.

2. Tripling the National Debt -

As Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, the government was left with less money to spend. When Reagan came into office the national debt was $900 billion, by the time he left the national debt had tripled to $2.8 trillion.

3. Iran/Contra - (I break this down in more detail in the article linked here)

In 1986, a group of Americans were being held hostage by a terrorist group with ties to Iran. In an attempt to free the hostages, Ronald Reagan secretly sold arms and money to Iran. Much of the money that was received from the trade went to fund the Nicaragua Contra rebels who were in a war with the Sandinista government of Nicaragua. When the scandal broke in the Untied States it became the biggest story in the country, Reagan tried to down play what happened, but never fully recovered.

4. Reagan funded Terrorists -

The attacks on 9/11 by al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden brought new attention to international terrorism. All of a sudden, Americans coast to coast wore their American flag pins, ate their freedom fries and couldn't wait to go to war with anyone who looked like a Muslim. What Americans didn't realize was that the same group that attacked the United States on 9/11 was funded by Ronald Reagan in the 1980s. Prepping for a possible war with the Soviet Union, Ronald Reagan spent billions of dollars funding the Islamist mujahidin Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan. With billions of American dollars, weapons and training coming their way, the Taliban and Osama Bin Laden took everything they were given and gave it back to the United States over a decade later in the worst possible way imaginable.

5. Unemployment issues -

When Ronald Reagan came into office 1981, unemployment was at 7.5%. After Reagan cut taxes for the wealthy, he began raising taxes on the middle and lower class. Corporations started to ship more jobs out of the United States while hiring cheap foreign labor in order to make a bigger profit. While corporations made billions, Americans across the country lost their jobs. As 1982 came to a close, unemployment was nearly 11%. Unemployment began to drop as the years went on, but the jobs that were created were low paying and barely helped people make ends meet. The middle and lower class had their wages nearly frozen as the top earners saw dramatic increases in salary.

6. Ignoring AIDS -

By the time the 1980s came around, AIDS had become one of the most frightening things to happen to the country in recent memory. No one understood what AIDS and HIV really was and when people don't understand something, they become scared of it. The fear of the unknown was sweeping across the country and Americans needed a leader to speak out about this horrible virus, that leader never came. Instead of grabbing the bull by the horns and taking charge, Reagan kept quiet. Reagan couldn't say the words AIDS or HIV until seven years into his presidency, a leader not so much.

7. Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million Undocumented Immigrants -

In today's GOP, the idea of any immigrant staying in the United States whether they are legal or illegal isn't something that conservatives embrace. What might shock them is that in 1982 Ronald Reagan gave nearly 3 million undocumented workers amnesty. The biggest reason for undocumented workers coming to the United States is because corporations hire them at a cheaper rate than they would an American citizen. All the laws that would have cracked down on companies who hire undocumented workers were, of course, removed from the bill.

8. His attack on Unions and the Middle Class -

The Republican war on unions and the middle class has been heating up in states like Wisconsin and Ohio, but it has been going on for a long time. Unions are formed to give a united voice to the workers in an attempt to create fairness between the corporations and their employees. On August 3rd, 1981, PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization) went on strike in an effort to get better pay and safer working conditions. Two days later, taking the side of business, Ronald Reagan fired 11,345 workers for not returning to work.

*Bonus reasons against Reagan*

9. Reagan raided the Social Security Trust fund -

With Ronald Reagan cutting taxes so drastically, the U.S government was beginning to starve. Reagan added to the government and didn't make enough spending cuts to offset the tax cuts, so the money needed to come from somewhere. Ronald Reagan knew that his polices would create economic bubbles, unemployment would drop and some jobs would be created, but in time the bubble would burst leaving the economy in ruins. In order to counteract his own economic policies, Ronald Reagan needed to find somewhere else to get revenue.

Listening to Alan Greenspan and other advisers, Ronald Reagan raided the Social Security Trust Fund and replaced it with glorified IOU's. Ronald Reagan raised the Social Security tax rate which did add to the revenue, but because there is a cap on Social Security, currently no income over $113,700 is taxed for Social Security, the wealthy didn't feel the tax increase and the pain was pushed to the middle and lower classes.

10. Endless worship and never-ending praise -

Ronald Reagan left office in January of 1989 and nearly 25 years later he is held up high by the modern Republican party. As nearly three decades have gone by since Ronald Reagan was in the White House, reality and history has faded with time. Conservative figures like anti-tax Grover Norquist created the "Ronald Reagan Legacy Project" with a goal of memorializing Reagan in all 50 states. As stated in this article, Ronald Reagan did a lot to hurt the United States, not just while he was in office, but in the years that have followed. What's scary about today's current Republican party is that while Reagan was one of the worst presidents this country has had to endure over the last 100 years, he would be considered too moderate to be nominated by today's conservative standards.


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I've been surrounded by stubborn Reagan humpers all day. (Original Post) liberalnarb Mar 2016 OP
Here's a Wikipedia page on all the scandals. Don't forget the HUD scandal underpants Mar 2016 #1
heck, even the US Information Agency was run by the wiretapping Charles Z. Wick, described by his MisterP Mar 2016 #7
He was a horror, the beginning of a downward slide flamingdem Mar 2016 #2
#10 oldandhappy Mar 2016 #3
#11. Tried to stop the fall of communism. ieoeja Mar 2016 #4
Teflon St. Ronnie . . . so much damage in 8 years. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #5
His way of dealing with the PATCO Strikers taught a lesson . . . . HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #6
Can I just say . . . gratuitous Mar 2016 #8
I save a lot of anti Reagan articles in the very early 2000's Jim Beard Mar 2016 #9
This thread is why I love DU! longship Mar 2016 #10

underpants

(182,861 posts)
1. Here's a Wikipedia page on all the scandals. Don't forget the HUD scandal
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_administration_scandals

Literal croney capitalism. Rigging bids (for low income housing) to line the pockets of his contributors.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. heck, even the US Information Agency was run by the wiretapping Charles Z. Wick, described by his
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

mistress as a "drooling sadist"

flamingdem

(39,316 posts)
2. He was a horror, the beginning of a downward slide
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

for our country, a facilitator of the "me" generation.

I knew we were doomed the night he was elected.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
3. #10
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

I go with other Dems to help register new citizens at the swearing in ceremony. We have cut-outs of both Obamas. The Repubs have a cut out of Reagan!! Always makes me laugh. Not sure the new citizens even know who he is.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
4. #11. Tried to stop the fall of communism.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

When a Pizza Hut opened on Red Square the nightly broadcast news shows led off with "Communism is dead" and "Lenin is turning over in his glass coffin." That even has been largely hailed as the beginning of the end of the Soviet Union. And Rightists are thrilled that it happened during the Reagan administration. But they have a problem. The Reagan administration tried to prevent it.

The administration challenged Pizza Hut's right to do so all the way to the US Supreme Court. After failing before the USSC, the administration took it to the World Court to try and override the US Supreme Court. But they failed there as well. Russia's first experimentation in the global marketplace was allowed to move forward. A few short years later they tossed out Communism altogether and traded their empire for a place in the global marketplace.

The Reagan administration's reason was that they feared capitalism would make the Soviet empire stronger.


HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
5. Teflon St. Ronnie . . . so much damage in 8 years.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:45 PM
Mar 2016
Runaway income inequality, runaway CEO pay, middle/working/poor wage stagnation, job offshoring, union defanging, corporate malfeasance, Wall Street as a law unto themselves, defunding of colleges, defunding of HUD (which led to the giant homelessness problem we have today), ravaging of military benefits and VA hospitals, widespread loss of job security, news reporting traded for opinion and constructed narrative, demonization of everything progressive, merging of church and state, demonization of poor people, racism made fashionable, demonization of the LGBTQI community, rampant military spending, reliance on fossil fuels, destruction of the environment, making ignorance fashionable, etc, etc, etc . . .

With 138 officials implicated, the Reagan administration went down as one of the most corrupt in history.[24] The stuff that never stuck to Teflon Ron include:

Iran-Contra
Rigging HUD loans, for which 16 members of the White House and the Department of Housing and Urban Development were convicted.
St. Ronnie's Chief of Staff and Press Secretary were fined and probated for illegal lobbying activities.
"Sewergate," which funneled EPA money into Republican campaigns. Twenty EPA higher-ups were removed from office.
Inslaw Affair in which the Department of Justice was accused of pirating software. Never investigated.

Reagan was a particular favorite trope of celebrated futurist author J.G. Ballard. A chapter in his 1969 modernist novel The Atrocity Exhibition was entitled Why I Want To Fuck Ronald Reagan, and saw Ballard successfully prosecuted for obscenity in a UK court. The chapter was written as a kind bizarre public relations study from some crackpot think tank, and Ballard once had copies of it distributed to delegates at a Republican conference, who did not seem to realize it was a piece of satire. Considering what would come next, Ballard may have been a bit too early.

One of his more long-lasting actions was to appoint leaders of a conservative lobbying firm called ALEC into his White House Task Force on Federalism; the ALEC goons developed and implemented state policies that led to lower taxes and less regulation on businesses. Now in the bed of the Republican apparatus, ALEC won support from major corporate and individual donors, who pushed through their policies on the state level. Such policies advocated by ALEC include voter disenfranchisement, for-profit schools, private prisons, payday loan companies, Stand Your Ground bills, and restricting union influence. [25]

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
6. His way of dealing with the PATCO Strikers taught a lesson . . . .
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:50 PM
Mar 2016
. . . . to corporate America, who took that ball and ran with it like the Juice.

President Reagan's director of the United States Office of Personnel Management at the time, Donald J. Devine, argued:

"When the president said no...American business leaders were given a lesson in managerial leadership that they could not and did not ignore. Many private sector executives have told me that they were able to cut the fat from their organizations and adopt more competitive work practices because of what the government did in those days. I would not be surprised if these unseen effects of this private sector shakeout under the inspiration of the president were as profound in influencing the recovery that occurred as the formal economic and fiscal programs."[13]

In a review of Joseph McCartin's 2011 book, Collision Course: Ronald Reagan, The Air Traffic Controllers, and the Strike that Changed America in Review 31, Richard Sharpe stated that Reagan was "laying down a marker" for his presidency: "The strikers were often working class men and women who had achieved suburban middle class lives as air traffic controllers without having gone to college. Many were veterans of the US armed forces where they had learned their skills; their union had backed Reagan in his election campaign. Nevertheless, Reagan refused to back down. Several strikers were jailed; the union was fined and eventually made bankrupt. Only about 800 got their jobs back when Clinton lifted the ban on rehiring those who had struck. Many of the strikers were forced into poverty as a result of being blacklisted for [U.S. government] employment."


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. Can I just say . . .
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

Can I just say that I am not looking forward to a repeat of the necrogasm that attended the demise of Ronnie now that Nancy has shuffled off her mortal coil. I really don't need to endure another entire week of hagiography and white-washed memorials culminating in a sunset interment complete with coffin dramatics.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
9. I save a lot of anti Reagan articles in the very early 2000's
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

most of the links are bad but I did cut and past them to emails to myself. I searched a sentence and found the article on line again but it is hard to read.

Ronald Reagan, The Art of Deception

In the decades following World War II, Republican administrations sought to dismantle the "creeping socialism" of the New Deal. By the 1970s, the American system appeared to be heading in an unmanageable direction. The nation began to plunge into a deep malaise. The Vietnam War was just winding down; the nation was faced with double digit inflation and high unemployment; crime was on the upswing; and a proliferation of the nuclear arms race continued. It appeared as if Carter could not be elected in 1980. Behind in the polls just one month prior to the Presidential election, Reagan and Bush orchestrated the October Surprise, pressuring Ayatollah Khomeini to keep the 52 American hostages in Iran until after the November election. With the hostages still in Teheran, Carter's popularity waned, assuring the Presidency for Reagan.

The largest number of voters, 38 percent, chose Reagan because "it was time for a change," while a mere 11 percent voted for him because "he is a real conservative." Thus, Reagan, along with a Republican Senate which backed him for six of his eight years in office, was able to launch his revolution. The Reagan-Bush administration quickly moved to inflict enormous damage upon the nation's working class and its poor, while corporate America received a boost.

Reagan's specifics were clear. He promised to cut the deficit by cutting programs in order to balance the budget. He slashed almost every social program by $140 billion in his first term, slashing spending for health, education, senior citizens, pregnant women, welfare, and the environment. Reagan also promised tax cuts of $196 billion, primarily for the wealthy, and still informed the public that he would balance the budget. He claimed that these cuts would not hurt the poor because of comparable reductions in income taxes. To the contrary, it was this segment of society which was impaired the most. The Congressional Budget Office reported that 23 percent of all families, earning under $10,000 annually, would gain $120 in tax cuts, but they would also lose $360 in benefits. On the other hand, the richest 1 percent of families lost an average of $120 in benefits, but they gained a enormous $15,250 in tax cuts. In the mean time, unemployment increased and 16 million Americans lost health insurance.

On the other hand, he increased defense spending by nearly $200 billion in the same time period, giving the Pentagon a virtual blank check. Military spending skyrocketed out of control, and so too did the national budget, soaring nearly 300 percent to almost three trillion dollars in eight years. This left him with the legacy of being the biggest spender in the country's history. When Reagan moved into the White House, the national debt was $907.7 trillion which had been slowly accumulated over 190 years. This averaged out to a debt of under $50 billion per year. By the time Reagan left the White House eight years later, the debt had skyrocketed to $2.86 trillion, an increase of $1.89 trillion or an increase of $236 billion for each year he was in office.

In foreign affairs the Reagan administration regressed from a period of detente back to a chilly cold war with the Soviet Union. Reagan were frequently referred to them as the "Soviet empire." In the 1980s, the Soviet Union asked for another set of INF talks. They prepared to make severe concessions, all of which were rejected by Reagan. Brezhnev unilaterally supported a no first-strike nuclear pledge and repeatedly asked the United States to do the same. The Soviet delegation offered to reduce medium-range missiles in Europe from 600 to 162. Additionally, they unilaterally froze the deployment of SS-20 missiles, while urging the United States not to deploy cruise and Pershing 2 missiles in Western Europe. They proposed a cutback in both countries' land-based intercontinental missiles by 25 percent. Finally, the Soviet Union unilaterally placed a moratorium on nuclear testing and urged the United States do the same.

Yet, the Soviets did not consider the hundreds of French and British intermediate range missiles, which were capable of reaching their territory from Western European land, sea based missiles and bombers. With all the concessions the Soviet Union made to the United States, their proposals were not accepted by the Reagan administration.

Reagan waged several wars in Latin America including one which continued into Bush's administration. The contra war against the democratic Sandinista government in Nicaragua resulted in several indictments of high level White House officials. In addition, scandals involving top level government officials engulfed the Reagan administration. Corruption ran rampant and the corporate profits and salaries of executives soared, while working class wages dropped. Fraud moved into several government agencies. More than 100 Reagan administration officials faced allegations of questionable activities. Many resigned and others faced criminal charges.

On the domestic front, the political action committee (PAC) money escalated in the 1980s and added to charges of corruption. Since 1925, laws made it illegal for corporations and labor unions to contribute money to candidates, but such legislation was unenforceable. Then the infamous Watergate scandal surfaced in 1972, and two years later Nixon was forced to resign. In the wake of these revelations, Congress was forced into enacting sweeping campaign reform laws, and the six- person Federal Election Act was created in 1974. This established the Federal Election Commission (FEC). Tougher restrictions on political spending were implemented, and a more responsible system on public financing of Presidential campaigns was put into place.

With the influence of corporations and to some extent labor unions severely impeded, the corporate world looked for a new means to enable itself to continue funneling money into the bank accounts of their favorite candidates. Even though each corporation and labor union could establish only one PAC to provide funds to a least five candidates, hundreds of other special interest groups could also establish PACs to contribute money to the same candidates. Thus, the chance of electing candidates to office was greatly enhanced. In addition the law also set up limits of how much an individual could spend on his or her own campaign. However, the Supreme Court struck down limitations on "soft" PAC money, that is, contributions which go directly to a particular political party -- not to a specific candidate. The high court ruled that the right to run for office and to express one's opinions included the right to spend an unlimited amount of his of her own money.

One year into Reagan's first term PACs contributed $55.3 million to candidates, hoping that they would be elected and would return favors to them. Candidates elected to Congress received one- third of their war chests in PAC contributions. By 1982, PAC money increased to $83.6 million, and in the Congressional elections two years later, PAC contributions topped $100 million. By 1994, PACs helped "buy" Congressional candidates by turning over an excess of $200 million.

PAC contributions invariably assured victory for Congressional candidates. The newly elected candidates frequently reciprocated by voting for bills which were beneficial to the PACs. For example, in the early 1980s, the House voted to raise dairy price supports throughout the United States, and proponents of the bill received nearly six times more money from dairy PACs than did those members who opposed such legislation.

In his eight years in the White House, Reagan carried out a continuous attack on the environment. On several occasions, he displayed his ignorance as well as his disdain for ecology. While campaigning in 1980 he stated, "80 percent of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emissions standards from man-made sources." On another occasion, he stated that "trees cause pollution."

As Reagan whittled away at environmental laws, Congress subpoenaed his EPA documents in 1983. In a televised news conference, he said "he will never invoke executive privilege if there's suspicion in the minds of the people that maybe it is being used to cover up some wrong-doing." The next day, White House spokesperson Larry Speakes denied that he had made that statement and that his records would be submitted to the Justice Department.

Corruption ran rampant in many government agencies. In the Department of Commerce, James Watt was a fiercely anti-environmentalist who protested federal control over the rich mineral and timber resources in the western states. Additionally, Watt set out to cripple the EPA and to permit oil drilling in scenic areas. After telling an off-color ethnic joke in 1983, Watt was forced to resign. He described members of a federal advisory panel as "a black ... a woman, two Jews, and a cripple."

Corporate fraud spilled over to Housing and Urban Development (HUD). Billions of dollars were channeled into the private sector, as developers, banks, and speculators profited. All this was occurring while HUD provided very few homes for the needy. For example, in the late 1980s a Palm Springs, California developer was given millions of dollars to build low-cost housing for the poor. However, very few poor families migrated to this expensive community. Also, a New Jersey developer embezzled millions of dollars in the late 1980s. Between 1981 and 1986, $17 billion was cut in HUD funds for public housing.

While in the Reagan administration, Secretary of Interior Watt was indicted on 41 felony charges for using his HUD connections to help his clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he intervened. He also was given $100,000 for a project in Puerto Rico. Testifying before a House committee Watt said, "That's what they offered, and it sounded like a lot of money to me, and we settled on it." After over ten years of investigation, Watt was sentenced to five years of probation and 500 hours of community service for withholding documents from a grand jury which investigated HUD in March 1996.

Corruption spread to the EPA. Anne Burford, who headed the superfund of the EPA, resigned after she bent environmental regulations for dozens of industrial polluters. One of Burford's subordinates, Rita Lavelle, headed the EPA's toxic waste clean-up program. She was indicted and served three months in a federal penitentiary for lying to Congress. She was able to clean up only a small handful of the nation's thousands of toxic waste sites. In addition, EPA administrator, John W. Hernandez, resigned after his staff disclosed that he illegally allowed Dow Chemicals to review a report which named it a dioxin polluter. Assistant EPA administrator John Horton was dismissed for using government employees for private business. Matthew Novick, EPA Inspector General, was fired after he used government officials to work on private business. Theodore Olson, Assistant Attorney General of the United States, was under investigation for obstructing justice in the investigation of the EPA. EPA General Counsel Robert Perry resigned after improper participation in a settlement which involved a former employer. John Tudhunter, assistant EPA administrator, resigned after being accused of meeting privately with chemical company lobbyists. Additionally, the Reagan administration sold and leased billions of dollars worth of coal and oil reserves, timber lands, and mineral reserves.

In addition, Reagan tampered with environmental laws in his crusade to bolster corporate profits. These included the effect which factory pollutants, originating in upper state New York, had on destroying Canadian forests, rivers, and streams. White House chief of staff Michael Deaver always denied Canada's allegations that sulfides from New York factories caused any harm to the environment. However, when Deaver left the White House, he immediately lobbied on behalf of foreign countries, in violation of The Ethics in Government Act which prohibits anyone for lobbying for one year after leaving a White House post. Deaver immediately he went to work for the Canadian government, being paid $105,000 to lobby for compensation from the United States for damage inflicted on Canadian territory from acid rain. Deaver also received $250,000 from Daewoo, a South Korean steel corporation, to market its product in the United States. Other foreign lobbyists included Ed Rollins, a member of Dole's campaign committee in 1995, and former Republican National Chairman Frank Fahrenkopf, were on the payroll as lobbyists for the Taiwanese government.

Also in 1982, lobbyists continued their assault on the consumer.

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. This thread is why I love DU!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

Informative, well researched with citations. When DUers do their homework, they come through in spectacular style.

Very happy to R& this thread as a whole.



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