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Without public notification of any kind, the US Navy has secretly been conducting electromagnetic warfare testing and training on public roads in western Washington State for more than five years.
An email thread between the Navy and the US Forest Service between 2010 and 2012, recently obtained via a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request filed by Oregon-based author and activist Carol Van Strum in November 2014, revealed that the Navy has likely been driving mobile electromagnetic warfare emitters and conducting electromagnetic warfare training in the Olympic National Forest and on public roads on Washington's Olympic Peninsula since 2010.
In one of the 2012 emails, Navy contractor Gerald Sodano explained that the Navy "utilized EW [electronic warfare] ranges outside the local vicinity." But he went on to say that the aim of establishing an electromagnetic warfare range on the Olympic Peninsula would be to conduct all training locally on the Olympic Peninsula, rather than further afield. This means that rather than using expansive training areas the Navy already has access to in Yakima in eastern Washington State, the Navy aims to use the Olympic National Forest and areas adjacent to Olympic National Park instead.
"What the Navy is doing we have no idea because they don't tell us."
As Truthout previously reported, the Navy itself has produced a medical study showing that exposure to electromagnetic radiation causes a myriad of human health problems, including corneal damage, tubular degeneration of testicles, brain heating, sterility, altered penile function, death, cranial nerve disorders, seizures, convulsions, depression, insomnia, chest pain, and even sparking between dental fillings.
Other reports by the US Air Force, NASA, medical doctors and scientific publications confirm these and other deleterious health effects that would result from the Navy's electromagnetic weaponry arsenal, in addition to large-scale negative impacts on birds, aquatic life and other biota.......... MORE
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/35111-exclusive-navy-secretly-conducting-electromagnetic-warfare-training-on-washington-roads
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)Published on May 12, 2015
Dr Pall addresses US Navy documents on potential electromagnetic radiation health effects for humans and animals in the Olympic National Forest, the Navy will deploy 2 fixed and 12 mobile emitters in in/around the Olympic Forest area as early as Sept 2015.
Martin Pall is Professor of Biochemistry and Basic Medical Sciences at Washington State University. He has been investigating the causes of unexplained illnesses including chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), fibromyalgia, and multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) for the past decade.
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7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Tks Iching.
I loved what he said at the end about believing he couldn't be shocked anymore and yet he is shocked again!
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)report Monday in the Scientific journal
Nature/ Neuroscience
This is, to our knowledge, the first demonstration of bona fide magnetic control of the nervous system, the authors, led by biomedical scientist Ali Güler at the University of Virginia, concluded.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/magnetic-mind-control-works-in-live-animals-makes-mice-happy/
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)caraher
(6,279 posts)unless you've been genetically modified.
They basically engineered organisms to be responsive to the fields:
With a few more genetic tweaks, the resulting hybrid protein, dubbed Magneto, proved to be viable and responsive to magnetic fields in cells. When the researchers moved a magnet near the cells carrying the hybrid, Magneto jerked, opening the ion channel. This caused an influx of ions into the cells, sparking an electrical change that could fire off brain signals.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)all means for the control of human behavior." Ah, PAPERCLIP derived "science and products" I hate, oh lover of the truth.
http://www.truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/91211:the-hidden
Orrex
(63,224 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)That could explain a lot ...
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I have provided have you?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I'm pretty sure it isn't very "scientific".
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)I know when a parrot talks.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I'm not sure you can say the same
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)You throw bullshit at a light bulb.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Just every object in the universe that's above absolute zero. Beyond that, not much.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)EM radiation, in terms of what the article is talking about, refers to electronic warfare and jamming.
In short, it's radio. The .mil is practicing trying to send communications signals and radar beams around, and also trying to jam said signals, or trying to burn through the jamming.
The military is playing with radio. If you're a civie, it's not going to hurt you. It may scramble your reception if you're listening to a radio station or something.
The danger only applies if you're really damned close to one of their EM emitters. And I mean standing directly in front of the dish, say six feet from it. Microwaves are also EM, just high-frequency radio. You can use microwaves to cook food, or to send signals, or to detect aircraft & stuff using radio reflections (radar), or jam the above.
The power of a radio emission is inversely proportionate to the distance, squared. If you stick your head in a microwave oven, it'll get cooked. If you're standing six feet away, even with the door open, and the oven still running, you're fine. Civies in this exercise are going to be thousands of feet away, and most likely many miles away from EM emitters. They'll be fine.
I've been a fan of Truthout, but this article strikes me as being totally silly.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Evidently a radar simulator is actually a no-shit secret government vast conspiracy for mind control. At least one of them is a "reality-based" believer in chemtrails and if you think that's funny, YOU are part of the conspiracy.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Big parts of the US Government have a history that shows zero respect for its own citizens.
Know your BFEE: American Children Used in Radiation Experiments
Here's an online resource:
THE HUMAN RADIATION EXPERIMENTS
How scientists secretly used US citizens as guinea pigs
during the Cold War
By Alan R Cantwell Jr., M.D.
New Dawn No. 68 (September-October 2001)
Disinformation and Nuclear Fallout
Secret Radiation Experiments
The Atomic Energy Commission
Uranium Mine Workers
Medical Ethics of the Cold War
The Presidents Advisory Committee
Keeping Government Secrets
Current Secret Biomedical Experimentation
Does Secret Medical Experimentation Continue?
CONTINUED w links n details...
http://www.whale.to/a/cantwell9.html
Secret history is a downer, not only because it's so full of heinous acts perpetrated on humanity, but also because by it's very nature it is so un-democratic.
Flint has recently been home to military maneuvers -- nothing related to setting up clean water, either.
Army calls cease fire on military exercises that rattled Flint
by Ron Fonger
MLive on June 11, 2015 at 10:22 AM
FLINT, MI -- At ease, Flint.
Those hovering military helicopters and explosions that came with special U.S. Army training around the city this month are over.
"The U.S. Army concluded its training in areas of southeastern Michigan, Wednesday, June 10, 2015," a statement from the Army says. "The purpose of the routine training was to ensure the U.S. Army's ability to operate in urban environments for upcoming overseas deployments.
"The U.S. Army must be able to operate in every possible environment and sustain proficiency on every piece of equipment it may be required to use in combat. This training is directed at ensuring we are prepared 24 hours a day to support our nation and its mission."
Flint was one of multiple locations for the training, which came as a surprise to city residents, who were not warned about the exercises, including loud explosions, before they started.
City spokesman Jason Lorenz later apologized for the communication breakdown.
CONTINUED...
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/06/military_exercises_over_in_fli.html
Yeah. So, no matter what the authorities say, secret government is un-democratic as all hell.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)There is no oversight or even a response to the people's concern in Washington state.
Actually this story goes deeper when you look at what they are doing with their jets.
SCIENTIST ARE CONCERNED!!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Pentagon has certainly acted that way cough CIA. We know Wall Street on the Potomac does.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)When its corporate then the FOIA doesn't work.
It was a very clever move by them, which enabled them
to maintain their deep state.
I imagine that the Navy doesn't really know WTF how and why it works.......The Tech doesn't come from them
They don't have the scientists like the defense industry.
Which is why there has been no real audit of that beast.
The Navy does some really bad shit just look at their
Sonar experiments killing whales. They always had a rivalry with other agencies trying to be relevant so ego gets involved with rational thought on what's good for this planet.
THE DEEP STATE IS REAL AND NOT AN ILLUSION or a 'so called conspiracy'
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)gladium et scutum
(808 posts)Article II section 2 of the Constitution of the United States, makes that clear.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
Oh, I think I get it, now. Perhaps you think the President is an officer of the military, not a civilian elected to office?
I think I know why some think he can't he be an enlisted man.
gladium et scutum
(808 posts)is not an officer of the military. There is no constitutional requirement to have any military experience, officer or enlisted. Hence Presidents Clinton, Obama or Wilson are equally qualified for the office as Ike, JFK, or LBJ. He does not have to refer military decisions to "the people" for affirmation of his orders. He is the Commander and Chief, per the Constitution.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)I knew there had to be a reason. Is it possible to fit a car with a tinfoil hat?
FSogol
(45,525 posts)Beltway driving.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)what they are doing is driving around with devices that mimic radar emitters like you would find on a battle field. They are not particularly powerful, are directional so they are not indiscriminate, are not on for long periods and they direct their energy into the air.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)you give no links, no science studies, no scientist
like I did
So Bullshit.
hack89
(39,171 posts)they are the aircraft being trained. Their job on the battlefield is to find and destroy radars - especially mobile ones.
This is an old issue. We hashed it out here a long time ago.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)You are full of nothing.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)US Electronic Weapons and Human Rights: A Study of the History of US Intelligence Community Human Rights Violations and Continuing Research in Electromagnetic Weapons ( Project Censored December 2006)
http://www.mindjustice.org/censored12-06.htm
Official: Test nonlethal weapons in U.S. (Lolita Baldor AP 2006)
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/official-test-nonlethal-weapons-in-us
Wharton Aerospace Conference attendees/presenters 2009
http://www.whartondc.com/article.html?aid=1497
hack89
(39,171 posts)at least you will understand exactly what the Navy is doing without a bunch of anti-science CT nonsense.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Defense Science Board Task Force on Directed Energy Weapons Report (DoD December 2007 pdf)
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/ADA476320.pdf
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)it is not secret. The emitters they drive around are not secret.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)we are not talking death rays here.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)I am familiar with the EA-18G from my time in the Navy. Finding and localizing radars is their job.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)programs are being performed.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)environments hack89. So are robots. You don't need a top-secret or above clearance to find that out in this post-Wikileaks, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, Michael Hastings, Danny Casolaro etc.21st century.
We love and support our VETERANS and MILITARY FAMILIES hack89 and what they have experienced in perpetual GWOT war.
That's why we call bullshit, BULLSHIT.
hack89
(39,171 posts)not one iota of evidence - unless you have some?
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Perception-space, perception war, and perception operations (perceived-effects)-based operations (USAF Air University)
http://www.au.af.mil/info-ops/perception.htm
Fwiw, I'm one who was messed with by "the best" and didn't "die like the rest". Thank God.
hack89
(39,171 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Original Bill Text H.R. 2977 Space Preservation Act of 2001 (introduced to House)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977.IH:
gee, all kinds of revealing language in Dennis Kucinich's original text-that is taken as an affirmative by the real DU reality-based community that is sharing and learning from this thread and weeding out the IO.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)I would have expected at least something more original from someone who is so heavily invested in the creative speculation.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)fwiw, glad this thread is bttt on a pleasant Wednesday afternoon.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)www.cnic.navy.mil/content/dam/cnic/cnrnw/pdfs/NASWIfactsheets/NASWI%20EW%20Range%20FAQ.pdf
hack89
(39,171 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)and science.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)So please do post more links.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)In your own mind
I hope you get paid enough.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)...that exists in your mind.
The payment is not having to wear a foil hat everywhere, which is well worth it.
hack89
(39,171 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)that posts the same thing three times..!!
LOL
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)The web site that hosts it is a literal treasure trove of dumbfuckery that brought me to tears.
Using mind control technology, the experimenters knew what I was thinking and feeling. I filed a court case in 1968 and it stated, "...a brain device at San Quentin is being used upon him to alter or destroy his brain." and "The machine emitted electromagnetic waves which stimulated petitioners brain." They could communicate directly with my mind. At one point, they kept me awake for twenty-seven days and nights.
Dr. Schmidt, the chief psychiatrist of San Quentin later told me that they had used a M.I.N.D. device or magnetic integrated neuron duplicator on me as well as General Erwin Walker. Walker was the target of a missed gunshot by Oswald at the time of the JFK murder. General Walker, like myself was known for his strong political opinions.
I think that the goal of the behavior experiments performed on myself and General Walker were to develop the computer-brain technology for political purposes and as an intelligence tool. They used pavlovian conditioning with negative psychological stimulus, and in this way, they can change your behavior. For example, my political views would be degraded all day long for days on end.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)undergroundpanther
(11,925 posts)Bob good to see you are still here fighting the good fight. Take care ok.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)If the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts.
-George H.W. Bush
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/03/1199001/-Jeb-Bush-Oliver-North-and-the-Murder-of-CIA-Drug-Smuggler-Barry-Seal-in-1986#