the bottom of it. We can just vote Dem.

But they do have a rather inflexible teaching about those not of their faith.
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Quran, 9:29: “Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not Islam as the religion of truth among the people of the Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah [religious tax] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”.
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Seems to me anyway maybe the 'religous tax' angle may drive some of the rhetoric.
Kinda like some other non islamreligions that demand large tithes from their flocks.

In the end, I think anyway, it's all about the moolah.

and force him shove a cattle prod up his own saggy ass every time we passed a tombstone with the Islamic star and crescent.

To them it is pure and true. It's Islam. Same with Christianity. It does no good to just say that people like Pat Robertson or Paul Ryan aren't really Christians, or are "Christians," or what have you. Since there hasn't been any direct word from any gods in several centuries, it's anybody's guess what the "true" version of these religions are. Getting into a screaming match over who is the "real" adherent is pointless.

More the minority of their respective religions but they certainly garner the most press time.

They view themselves as devout, as the true practitioners of the religion. I think that until and unless people recognize that "religion" means whatever someone wants it to mean - AND is exactly as justified as the next person in doing so - we will continue to dance around the problem and only make things worse.

Keep in mind too, that (in the US at least), liberal believers in most faiths are a "minority of their respective religions."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-jr-religion-challenges-left-and-right/2013/08/04/2b2e7a2e-fb7d-11e2-a369-d1954abcb7e3_story.html?hpid=z2

Islam, of course, isn’t capable of sentiment, being just an abstract conception. The issue is people, i.e. Muslims. So let me help Trump rephrase his question. Do Muslims hate the USA and/or its citizens? Mind you, he is implying that he thinks it is possible that all do.

3. The citizens of many Muslim countries have a favorable view of the United States. The following list is based on a sampling of countries by Pew and is by no means exhaustive, it is just information easily at hand and recent (Dec. 2015): Some 80% of Senegalese, who are mostly Muslim, view the US favorably. So to do 76% of Nigerians, who are 50/50 Muslim and Christian; 62% of Indonesians, citizens of the largest Muslim country in the world (this is about the same percentage as the citizens of Australia, our close ally!); 54% of Malaysians, with a Muslim majority. The citizens of these Muslim-majority countries listed above all give the US higher favorability ratings than do Germans, our NATO ally (50%). Some Muslims love us even if we treat them like dirt.

4. Muslims admire American political freedoms, and they view the US even more positively in this regard than they do other Western democracies, as Dalia Mugahed’s Galllup polling discovered. Even Iranians feel this way, despite the decades of tension between the two governments:

5. Most Muslims are themselves worried about extremists like Daesh (ISIS, ISIL). Who have been American allies against Daesh on the ground? The Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq, who are mostly Sunni Muslims, the YPG Kurds of northeast Syria, who are of Sunni Muslim heritage even if they are socialists; the Shiite Muslims of Iraq; and the Sunni Syrians of the Free Syrian Army.

http://www.juancole.com/2016/03/top-5-signs-trump-is-wrong-islam-doesnt-hate-us.html

1- How can an immaterial ideology be at war, especially when there is not one unique understanding of it?

2- the widespread hatred of the West in Muslim countries is in a large part the result of politics, with ME politicians using Israel and the West as scapegoats for their own incompetence and graft.

3- what does "Donald Trump Insults (the) Islamic Religion" mean?
According to Merriam Webster, only people can be insulted:

This cute little girl is what, 7 years old? How is she a Muslim? Or a Sikh, Christian or whatever?
It is a great shame kids are allowed to be indoctrinated at such a young age.

That will be the recurring headline over the next few months.


Just pray it won't be the headline over the next 4+ years.

WASHINGTON, March 10, 2016 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Later today, representatives of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) will join other leaders of the American Muslim community at a news conference on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., to demand that leading GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump apologize for his latest Islamophobic claim that "Islam hates us."

The American Muslim leaders will outline how Trump's Islamophobic rhetoric, and that of other Republican officials, is to blame at least in part for the recent unprecedented spike in anti-Muslim hate incidents nationwide.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-muslim-leaders-to-demand-that-donald-trump-apologize-for-islam-hates-us-claim-300234239.html

Beyond the financial links between CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood (an organization which is classified as terrorist by half a dozen countries), there is the fact that CAIR leaders are on record refusing to disown Hamas whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel.

And now CAIR wants apologies for criticism of Islam? Too funny.

Please bookmark this post and refer them to it.

Thank you

from home with news on in background.

I honestly, honestly, think this has zero to do with hate of an entire religion. Zero. I saw it - and it was 100% obvious that he had no clue about the difference between Islam, Muslim, ISIS, Radical Islamists.


He is TOTALLY like your uncle Joe in your living room. He just spouts out ideas with no regard to precise words/descriptions. I have watched enough to know he was merely describing the terrorist people (doesn't care who they are - the terrorists)

that's why he gets away with whatever he says/does

doesn't have a clue what he talking about. What is just so curious to me is how he only seems to want to learn just "enough" to get by. Just enough soundbites.

And, his knowledge hasn't grown much over the last 6 months at all. I think he (1) is either extremely intellectually lazy, or (2) Has been successful in business by only concentrating on exactly what he is good at - seeing the issue - striking the deal - and hiring people to know the details - what he may think as minutiae. Narrow but laser focus.

I can't imagine why he doesn't get, say, a foreign policy expert, to fly around with him and teach him. Biggest mystery of all.

Love this line I read this morning - Miami Herald:

this is the greatest episode of Punk'd ever!

he'd be hated by millions of people (his supporters)...Not to mention the probable lawsuits from Jeb and the others who fell.

OH MAN - hope it's true : ) Let the entertainment last long after the election