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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:41 PM Mar 2016

Union Members Gravitating Toward Trump Amid Tough Talk On Trade And Immigration

Brian Sepe has been a dues-paying member of the United Steelworkers for over three decades. Last week, he voted for Donald Trump in Massachusetts' Republican primary.

“My country is going to hell,” said Sepe, a 55-year-old utility worker and resident of Lowell, the famed mill town that is now one of the state’s poorest cities. “You look back at all the different trade agreements over the past 30 years, [and] it’s always been to move jobs out of the country. That’s got us in so much trouble. We don’t have good jobs left in this country.”

“Trump is a no bulls--- kind of guy,” Sepe continued. “He calls it what it is.”

Sepe belongs to a breed that’s causing serious concern among officials from organized labor and the Democratic Party: union members who support billionaire real estate mogul Trump for president.

As primaries and caucuses have illustrated thus far, voters across the country are drawn to the GOP front-runner’s populist rhetoric and tough talk on trade — both of which are pillars of many embattled U.S. labor unions. Come November, some Democrats and labor officials worry that Trump could capture a large chunk of the union vote, historically a vital part of the Democratic electoral coalition.

Mary Kay Henry, president of the 2 million-member Service Employees International Union, acknowledged as much in a recent interview. "I am deeply concerned about what is stirring, even in our membership ... where our members are responding to Trump's message," she told former Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod in a January interview.

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http://www.ibtimes.com/union-members-gravitating-toward-trump-amid-tough-talk-trade-immigration-2331971

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Union Members Gravitating Toward Trump Amid Tough Talk On Trade And Immigration (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2016 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #1
Trump is anti-union pintobean Mar 2016 #2
Ugh. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #3
I never could understand that. lpbk2713 Mar 2016 #4
ha ha, I know lots of union members that voted for wanker in Wisconsin..... a kennedy Mar 2016 #6
Tough talk on trade? Do as I say, not as I do. KamaAina Mar 2016 #5
and this ... napkinz Mar 2016 #7
three decades of "buggy-whip manufacturing" taunts and promises of millions of MisterP Mar 2016 #8
What the living fuck is wrong with these people? 6000eliot Mar 2016 #9
I've been saying it for months davidn3600 Mar 2016 #10
Exactly. "working people have been losing economic ground for years and are easy prey for demagogues pampango Mar 2016 #11

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pintobean

(18,101 posts)
2. Trump is anti-union
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:53 PM
Mar 2016

but the national Democrats have abandoned unions, especially on trade and immigration. I think these people are wrong, but I can see where they are coming from.

Our Democrats in Missouri have been holding back 'right to work', but I see us getting steamrolled under if we lose more elections here.

lpbk2713

(42,759 posts)
4. I never could understand that.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016



I don't see how any labor union member could vote for anyone
but a Democrat. It is voting against their own interests.

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)
6. ha ha, I know lots of union members that voted for wanker in Wisconsin.....
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:29 PM
Mar 2016

they did because they were tired of having to pay union dues for people that didn't "appreciate" our union.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
8. three decades of "buggy-whip manufacturing" taunts and promises of millions of
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:39 AM
Mar 2016

new jobs to replace the lost ones have come home to roost

thank the Increate we have Sanders running this year

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
10. I've been saying it for months
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:57 AM
Mar 2016

Trump's populism is going to resonate with a lot of people you wouldnt expect.

There is a lot of anger out there. A lot of middle class whites are very angry at both parties for these trade deals and immigration that they see is hurting their jobs and their salaries.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
11. Exactly. "working people have been losing economic ground for years and are easy prey for demagogues
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 07:33 AM
Mar 2016

seeking to build their own power by scapegoating others."

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/35655-the-american-fascist

"Trump's populism" is resonating and will do so in the general election campaign as well. There is indeed "a lot of anger out there" among "middle class whites" in Trump's camp and across the spectrum in Bernie's camp. As is often pointed out, Trump is very skilled at playing to that anger and fear by offering up scapegoats and macho, nationalistic rhetoric rather than viable solutions. I agree that he will be a formidable election opponent for precisely this reason. He is very good at the traditional republican tactic of motivating voters by playing to fear and hate.

Actually, a bit of background: establishment Republicans may talk free trade, but they are if anything more protectionist than Democrats in practice (although neither party is seriously protectionist these days.) Remember, it was Bush, not a Democrat, who imposed a WTO-illegal steel tariff, then had to back down in the face of European pressure. And going back, remember that Reagan, not Carter, imposed import quotas on Japanese cars.

The reason for this difference, I think, is twofold. First, Republicans are much less respectful of international obligations; it took a while for the Bushies to realize that trade rules apply to us, too, and that the EU is as big a trade superpower as we are. Second, there’s a level of cynicism, of willingness to play politics with foreign affairs, on one side that isn’t matched on the other.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/03/06/republicans-and-trade-wars/

Going back even further historically than Krugman did, it was Coolidge and Hoover who built a huuuuge tariff wall in the 1920's and FDR who tore it down in the 1930's, eventually replacing it with multilateral control of trade.

The truth is that if Sanders were to make it to the White House, he would find it very hard to do anything much about globalization — not because it’s technically or economically impossible, but because the moment he looked into actually tearing up existing trade agreements the diplomatic, foreign-policy costs would be overwhelmingly obvious. ... Trump might actually do it, but only as part of a reign of destruction on many fronts.

But it is fair to say that the case for more trade agreements — including TPP, which hasn’t happened yet — is very, very weak. And if a progressive makes it to the White House, he or she should devote no political capital whatsoever to such things.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/03/09/a-protectionist-moment/?_r=0
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