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So was definitely glad that those involved were able to provide the context. It makes it even more chilling.

...someone who was right there in the thick of it.

saying it was her and she's a plant from the Sanders campaign.

Rightwing crazies will believe anything to preserve their delusions.

A lie travels faster, of course.

That was in the afternoon before this picture. If she's a plant she was in it for the long con yesterday.

hopefully.
These freaks so often do that.

people tend to flock with those who share their deepest values and beliefs, but beyond her racist, ate-filled circle, she will be vilified, and the internet is forever.

I hate the way people attack and bully others online--and even carry their online attacks out into the real world--no matter how awful the person being attacked has behaved. But I predict that this woman's life is about to become a living hell.

And if so, she hill have earned every minute.

It needs to go home, it's drunk.

I hear it from my Christian in laws.

They were....up is down...right is wrong...wrong is right...hateful idiots!

I am glad I divorced that guy who later murdered his 5th wife (I was his 1st wife).

From a pure clean slab of concrete a weed can grow.

But I prefer your usage of it.

when hatred comes so up close and personal. A sick feeling in your stomach and a soul shaking fear that it could happen here, it could happen again. Being silent isn't an option anymore.

The man standing right behind her -- is he wearing a yarmulke? If so, it's a remarkable counterpoint to her gesture.

I had copied the picture from a previous post because, pictures are worth a thousand words, but to have the context is even more chilling.

hardcore white supremicist? Doing a Hitler salute? Can these really be?

well that was rather fitting. how is Donald Hitler doing. Naturally blame the jews. that went well. Now Republicans are stuck with someone they don't want but fully approved by Faux.

Identify them and boycott their businesses and ostracize them socially. We need to let them know that they don't represent God, Jesus, or anything decent with their hate.

About the context I expected. Unfortunately.

Christianity is simply the child of religion in general, so to are all the other faiths based on faith instead of facts. If you're going to point fingers at somebody's belief that rests on faith alone and disregards the facts, you have to accept the fact that others will embrace a different viewpoint. There are a lot of thoughtful and caring believers the world over... as many as a faith can manifest. When many of the religious power brokers get behind the Trump organization with their support, you may then understand why the numbers just don't add up.

This clip is from some very intelligent former Christian faithful, some folks will refer to them as "Back-Sliders". I respect your creator's gift of thought, as long as it benefits all humanity. TY

"As people are walking out we're saying things like "Bye racists", "You lost. Please just go home now." bc many are leaving with shoves and shoulder checks, begrudgingly, but most with pent up fury."

There are a lot of issues in this country which need to be fixed (especially in the black community). To do this we need to get as many people as possible on board. Race should never be used a political tool.

To call someone a racist that you don't even know is unbelievable. There are racists that support Democrats and Republicans. To accuse unknown individuals of racism does NOTHING to heal this nation or move it forward. And when real incidences of racism occur that need to be addressed, people won't be so inclined to believe them. It's the same with the way Clinton has used sexism to try to score political points.

Note: And all of the Bernie supporters I know that are "real" Bernie supporters would also think these kind of actions are not okay.

when I read it. Anger must at times take a back seat. They already won by stopping the rally so why inflame them more? I can't imagine someone who is not a racist supporting Trump at this point but in order to become the society we want we have to lead and that means controlling our own impulses at times. I don't think that is real popular right now, especially at a Trump rally. They will learn. I cannot say that I blame them. They will learn.

But shutting a rally down and then expecting the rally attendees to be nice to you is more than a little strange, even if you keep insisting that you respect your elders.

I'm not defending that woman's actions at all but this gentleman comes across as a bit too sanctimonious for my liking. If people wanted to be home, they would have stayed home in the first place so being nice to them while telling them to go home doesn't quite cut it.

This man is a good man fighting for a good cause but I'm sure that he would have been none too happy if protesters shut down a Clinton or Sanders rally and then nicely told him to go home.

I think the best option would have been, as someone else on Democratic Underground has suggested, a large but silent protest outside the arena. In my opinion, this would have got the media's attention without getting the bad press.

Think that choice through.


Tikki

The Nazi salute is awful but, quite frankly, so is calling random people racist. The former might never have happened without the latter first taking place.

The fact that you're falling all over yourself with "but" here, is interesting.

Not surprised the Republican supporters are racist because the republican candidates are racists.

My post is less about the salute and more about this gentleman's story, personal portrayal and expectations.

So let's look at it from a rally attendee's point of view: It's a cold Friday night but you make the effort of driving a long way and waiting in a long queue to attend a political rally to listen to what a presidential candidate has to say, as is your democratic right.

Then, while you are waiting for the event to start, a group of people who you have never met in your life enter the venue, call you a racist, take a political sign out of your hand and rip it up and create an atmosphere which results in the cancellation of the rally.

While others are celebrating the cancellation of the political rally you were keen to attend, a man who portrays himself as a saviour of old ladies nicely tells you to go home. What do you do? Do you tell him "Thank you, kind sir, for having had a hand in ruining my evening's plans and spoiling my chance to listen to what this presidential candidate has to say. I will do as you ask and quietly go home." or do you tell him to take a walk?

The Nazi salute is the wrong reaction but if you cannot understand why the rally attendees were furious at having the rally shut down, then you have no empathy. When assessing a situation, always try to imagine what the situation for people on the other end of your own is like. How this man is expecting rally attendees to be grateful after having had a hand in shutting down the event they were keen to attend is beyond me.

In my opinion, the protest was worthy but it should have been done in a way which gets the message across but does not disrupt other people's plans.

I assure you that it is much worse to be racist than to call someone racist.

When you raise your hand in the air, you are doing something.

When you vocalise and project words out of your mouth, you are doing something as well.

Both are public gestures directed at others and neither of them is very nice. One could argue that one is worse than the other but don't delude yourself into thinking that one is 'doing' and the other is 'not doing'.

And in many cases it is a justifiable accusation.

is that this paragraph needs to be read again:

Millions of Jews died and that salute was at the center of it. Calling someone a racist far less egregious, by orders of magnitude. I don't think you argument and comparison is appropriate at all.

That was the way US schoolkids saluted during the Pledge of Allegiance until WW2. Maybe that's what she meant by "back in my day."

More likely, her family was involved in the Klan.

The way you wrote it, I am thinking that she was calling you and the protesters Little Hitlers, the way that some people will do a mock salute and Ja Wohl, mein Fuhrer. It was likely a well of feeling from being frustrated from having a rally and perceiving the cause to be the protesters pushing their own view, preventing the Trumpettes from having their own day in Illinois. I do think also, that not everyone attending goes for the most base reasons. So
some just want to see what the carnival show is like, they're curious. Others just don't want to be Democrats. So I think "'Bye Racists" just was inflammatory and threw fuel on the fire.

As I said before, not surprised racist Republican supporters go to a racist Republican candidate rally. The Republican party is a fascist political party.

to run for president. Anyone who knows him must know how racist and emotional volatile and unstable he is, so I consider it irresponsible.

All Trump needs at this point is a little arson at the Reichstag, because he's been fomenting violence for months. He's not afraid of it -- he wants it, he just won't be there in person when it happens.

He must be stopped.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for sharing, Blue_Adept.

who fought against the nazis and fascists.

So, nothing to see here.

powergirl

She could have had parents who was a tiny bit involved in the former regime, after all in 1946 it was just a year after the end of the war - and right up to the end of the war, had Hitler an iron clad support by many germans - including in Berlin, who other vice was rather "un-friendly" to the nazi-ideology even after 12 years of the nazi-rule.. It is a reason Hitler wanted to tear down Berlin, and rebuild it as Germanica after the war... And it was not just because he wanted to make an expression of himself to the future....

Many germans was never "denazifized" in the general term of the world - or was just deemed to have been "follower but not a criminal" and therefore just kept off the hook easy enough.... Even if their harbored nazi-ideology for the rest of their lifer's - and many of them, emigrated later on to other parts of the world - including USA, who in the aftermath of the war, had some soul-searching to work on - as many who had german decent in USA, had been more than just a little sympathetic for the nazi cause...

Diclotican

Regardless of how careful most of them are from being quite this visual about it.

Protesters are being forcibly removed, and he is blaming Bernie supporters for any violence. Trump is calling Bernie a communist and agitating the crowd against he and his supporters.

If you'll recall, in Germany in the 1930s, followers of Adolph Hitler hit the streets and terrorized people. They met the left wing in bloody riots and ended up winning because they were willing to lie more and be more violent. Then, when they took power, we all know what happened.

The rest of the civilized world could not tolerate them, and they started a great war. It took 12 years and 80 million lives to get rid of Hitler.

What, we wonder, will it cost us to get rid of Trump and his white supremacists?

In fact, selah!

"'We Aren't Nazis' Says Husband Of Woman Who Saluted At Trump Rally" - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-nazi-salute-husband_n_9448092.html

1936 anymore.

Bill Corbett (Mystery Science Theater 3000, Rifftrax) tweeted last night that he'd never imagined Carla from Cheers to be a Nazi. Now I can't unsee that.

Establishment (The Ruling Class). We ignore this at all of our peril. If Clinton runs against an anti-Establishment Republicon candidate SHE WILL LOSE. We will all lose. Don't let the smug hubris of the Establishment push Clinton into the General.

We are fighting a war against the corrupt Establishment that has drained our (the People's) resources for 30 years to fill their wallets. Why would a sane Democrat support the Establishment. They don't love you they love wealth and power.

Beautiful moving post. Be safe!