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WhiteTara

(29,728 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:51 PM Mar 2016

Windows 7 users complain of unprovoked Windows 10 auto-upgrades

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3043464/windows/windows-7-users-complain-of-unprovoked-windows-10-auto-upgrades.html?google_editors_picks=true

As Microsoft auto-upgrades more PCs to Windows 10, some users are complaining that they weren’t adequately notified.

Reports of unwanted Windows 10 upgrades have been circulating for the past few days on Reddit and Twitter, after the last Patch Tuesday. These users say they never approved or initiated the upgrade, and were dragged away from their Windows 7 (or perhaps Windows 8) installs anyway.

This is all part of Microsoft’s plan, of course. Last October, the company announced that it would reclassify Windows 10 as a “Recommended” update from older versions starting in early 2016, at which point many more users would get the upgrade without explicit permission. That reclassification began on February 1, and auto-upgrades have been rolling out ever since. If complaints are reaching a higher volume now, perhaps it’s because the rollout is getting more aggressive.

Here’s what the Recommended update looks like, according to ZDNet’s Mary Jo Foley: First, users will receive a notification saying their PCs are scheduled to receive Windows 10 in the next three or four days. Users can click a small link to cancel or postpone the update, but simply closing the window will cause the notification to appear again one hour before the scheduled update time. If users don’t cancel or postpone within that timeframe, the update will begin automatically.
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Windows 7 users complain of unprovoked Windows 10 auto-upgrades (Original Post) WhiteTara Mar 2016 OP
Bereft of actual advancements in technology, Microsoft turns to shiny new things to promote itself. randome Mar 2016 #1
Not a MS fanboy matt819 Mar 2016 #3
Oh, I agree, you can stop the update if you want. randome Mar 2016 #16
Job security for developers, and a chance to re-sell the same crap. arcane1 Mar 2016 #26
I tired it. Hated it. Drahthaardogs Mar 2016 #30
One of many reasons I set Windows Update to Notify but don't download. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #2
ditto. ucrdem Mar 2016 #6
Likewise. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #21
So did I. Unchecked optional as well. BUT they bundled it all together... madfloridian Mar 2016 #33
The automatic Windows upgrade forced me to quit Microsoft Submariner Mar 2016 #4
Had 10 for a few days, then the damn PC bricked up. ucrdem Mar 2016 #5
I'm happy with Win 7... want no part of Win 10 Heeeeers Johnny Mar 2016 #7
My six and a half-year-old netbook runs XP KamaAina Mar 2016 #9
10 is a great OS edhopper Mar 2016 #8
Great as in Aerows Mar 2016 #11
Great as in the best OS edhopper Mar 2016 #12
Great as in flushing your head down the toilet Aerows Mar 2016 #13
I'll stay with 10 edhopper Mar 2016 #14
You are running Linux and need tech support? n/t Aerows Mar 2016 #15
It's very DYI edhopper Mar 2016 #24
Did you mean "DIY" - Do it yourself? Aerows Mar 2016 #25
oops edhopper Mar 2016 #32
I'm not ready to say great matt819 Mar 2016 #17
Great compared to other Windows edhopper Mar 2016 #23
How fast is your CPU? How much RAM do you have? Orrex Mar 2016 #38
10 is actually a leaner OS than 7 edhopper Mar 2016 #40
Thanks--I'll check my specs Orrex Mar 2016 #42
Cool edhopper Mar 2016 #45
Yeah. Anyone who'd bother to hack them is welcome Orrex Mar 2016 #46
Microsoft edhopper Mar 2016 #47
Everybody that still has Windows 7 Aerows Mar 2016 #10
Linux is not simple for the typical non IT end user. Great for IT people. Logical Mar 2016 #18
Linux does not run Cakewalk Sonar or Magic Music Visuals. Software critical to my work. CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #43
I would gladly run a Linux on my main machine but there are so many more applications programs PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #51
I have it on 4 PCs in the house, all upgrades and no issues so far. Better than 7 and 8.1 IMO. nt Logical Mar 2016 #19
8.1 makes the ordinary IT person Aerows Mar 2016 #20
I agree, 8.1 was a weird idea. nt Logical Mar 2016 #22
Checked my Windows updates and there it was Windows 10 upgrade showing as a recommended Monk06 Mar 2016 #27
Thanks for this post You saved me from Windows downloading Win 10 and wrecking my computer Monk06 Mar 2016 #28
you're welcome WhiteTara Mar 2016 #29
I set my Windows 7 PC to always ask before downloading/installing. djean111 Mar 2016 #31
Now they bundling optional in with important. madfloridian Mar 2016 #34
The Always Ask option does not work You have to select Never Search For Updates option and Monk06 Mar 2016 #36
I use 10, never had a problem JesterCS Mar 2016 #35
The spy settings should be off by default Orrex Mar 2016 #39
Oh I agree on that JesterCS Mar 2016 #49
It happened to me. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #37
That happened to me. polly7 Mar 2016 #41
I'm on dish internet and limited to 5 GB per month. I keep getting the message to download B Calm Mar 2016 #44
This is a much more serious problem than it appears. When you see Win 10 as a recommended update Monk06 Mar 2016 #48
Thanks so much. WhiteTara Mar 2016 #50
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Bereft of actual advancements in technology, Microsoft turns to shiny new things to promote itself.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016

"See the new interface? Notice how it shines?" This is what passes for technology from this company. Changing the look of the menus and how they can be accessed.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

matt819

(10,749 posts)
3. Not a MS fanboy
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:11 PM
Mar 2016

But MS gives repeated alerts re upgrade to Windows 10. Maybe there are too many so that people respond, or not, automatically. So blaming MS is not a valid excuse.
That said, i just upgraded, modified a to. Of security and privacy settings and I've been pretty pleased so far. It seems to run faster than Windows 8.1. I lost my desktop screen, which is an irritant, but I'm getting used to it, as I have the idiosyncrasies is all operating systems.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Oh, I agree, you can stop the update if you want.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

My distaste of them comes from bogus changes that do nothing to improve productivity, just makes everything look different for the sake of looking different.

The 'Aero' design where they make it harder to tell what you have highlighted.

The 'ribbon' confusion, where they make it more difficult to find menu options.

The utterly pointless attempt to put meaningless icons next to every menu item, thereby making it more difficult for the mind to process.

They say they conduct extensive user tests but none of those three items I mentioned are in any way, shape or form beneficial to users. They are just changes for the sake of changing.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
26. Job security for developers, and a chance to re-sell the same crap.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

Just like how cars have a "new" model every year, even when it's just a barely perceptible change in tail-light shape.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
6. ditto.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:23 PM
Mar 2016

KB-3035583 installs the Get Win10 app, but it won't stay hidden unless you also hide KB-112148, and probably a few others. MS can be sneaky when it wants to be so it's back to manual updates for now.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
21. Likewise.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

I haven't been able to conclusively determine that MS has Win10's dual-monitor difficulties fixed, at least without a pain-in-the-ass workaround. Without that very basic bit of functionality (I rely on two monitors for my work...big, annoying changes to how I work w/ only one), no way I'm upgrading.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
33. So did I. Unchecked optional as well. BUT they bundled it all together...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:35 PM
Mar 2016

and I clicked install before I realized what had happened.

My printer immediately quit working.

A software burning program died on me.

Even my computer tech now admits they are doing it.

Submariner

(12,511 posts)
4. The automatic Windows upgrade forced me to quit Microsoft
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:18 PM
Mar 2016

and switch to an Apple iMac.

Once Windows 10 was installed, it constantly slowed down the PC for the first ten minutes after boot up while it scans in the background and eventually pops up a window giving you a choice of paying to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro, or "Do not remind me again."

However, after you boot up again the same background scan begins anew with the same followup pop up window. Very annoying. I couldn't be happier with the iMac now. Thanks of pissing me off Microsoft, your screwup has improved my overall computer experience.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. Had 10 for a few days, then the damn PC bricked up.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:19 PM
Mar 2016

Literally wouldn't start. Turned out the BIOS had gotten messed up and by the time I figured it out I'd scrambled my HD which I still haven't fixed. So I got a new HD, loaded Win 7 pro, and am much happier with it. For one thing it runs on all the other machines I have or deal with, and Win 8 (which I had before) simply refused to network correctly.

Heeeeers Johnny

(423 posts)
7. I'm happy with Win 7... want no part of Win 10
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:33 PM
Mar 2016

My beater PC that I have in my workshop runs on XP, couldn't be happier with the way it is.

GWX Control Panel is a nifty little too to keep the Win 10 crap from your PC...

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

GWX Control Panel
This is a free tool that can remove and disable the 'Get Windows 10' notification area icon on Windows 7 and Windows 8. Recent versions can also disable 'Upgrade to Windows 10' behavior in the Windows Update control panel and do much more. See the user guide at the Ultimate Outsider blog. You can still download GWX Control Panel as a standalone executable if you don't like installers. Please see the "GWX CONTROL PANEL RELEASE NOTES" section at the user guide for MD5 and SHA-1 checksums of all official releases.
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. My six and a half-year-old netbook runs XP
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

but it's starting to get as slow as Jeb!'s poll numbers were moving.

edhopper

(33,645 posts)
8. 10 is a great OS
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:35 PM
Mar 2016

since I upgraded from 7 my PC runs smoother, boots much faster and has less problems.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
11. Great as in
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

"I restrained myself from pitching my netbook out of the window" great, or "I'm plotting some horrible things for the designers of this atrocity" great?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. Great as in flushing your head down the toilet
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

or great as in avoiding having your head flushed down the toilet with the blue stuff?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
25. Did you mean "DIY" - Do it yourself?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016

Or is there some other acronym that has passed me by and I have to resort to hunting the internet to figure out what on earth someone is talking about?

That was meant as a joke - Lord knows I'm the last person to chide others about making tpyos.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
17. I'm not ready to say great
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

But I've been happy with it. It seems faster. A few issues, though. As I said, can't retrieve my desktop view. And searching for stuff is s little more difficult.

Orrex

(63,240 posts)
38. How fast is your CPU? How much RAM do you have?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:19 AM
Mar 2016

Will Windows 10 be a great OS on my seven year old laptop, or will it grind everything to a halt?

edhopper

(33,645 posts)
40. 10 is actually a leaner OS than 7
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:13 AM
Mar 2016

but depending on how old the laptop is, you may wait until you get a new one. 7 years is pretty close to the time limit on a PC.

But the windows update in your service tray should tell you if it's compatable.

here is an article about old pcs.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2951112/hardware/can-your-old-pc-run-windows-10-the-answer-will-surprise-you.html

I have a icore 5 /3GHs with 8 g of Ram

Orrex

(63,240 posts)
42. Thanks--I'll check my specs
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

I still have a working PC running Windows 98 with no trouble at all. That one's probably 16 or 17 years old. I have another one running XP that's fine as well, but I don't use either for Internet.

Thanks for the article.

Orrex

(63,240 posts)
46. Yeah. Anyone who'd bother to hack them is welcome
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

Mostly I use the aforementioned aging laptop.

Our family PC is about a month old and came with Windows 10 installed. We've had absolutely no trouble with it.

edhopper

(33,645 posts)
47. Microsoft
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

will support older PCs with Win 7 until 2020. So you should be good. Odds are the laptop will go before that.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
10. Everybody that still has Windows 7
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:29 PM
Mar 2016

Should be glad it didn't get worse.

Upgrading to Linux is the better choice.

Microsoft has lost the plot.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
43. Linux does not run Cakewalk Sonar or Magic Music Visuals. Software critical to my work.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:21 AM
Mar 2016

SO long as it doesn't not really an option.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
51. I would gladly run a Linux on my main machine but there are so many more applications programs
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:44 AM
Mar 2016

that run on Windows.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
19. I have it on 4 PCs in the house, all upgrades and no issues so far. Better than 7 and 8.1 IMO. nt
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
20. 8.1 makes the ordinary IT person
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

want to jump out of the window because every relative, friend, coworker and passing acquaintance has called repeatedly.

Repeatedly.

God forbid you be helpful.

It. Will. Not. Stop.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
27. Checked my Windows updates and there it was Windows 10 upgrade showing as a recommended
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

update

Not only that but I checked the view all available updates and Windows 10 upgrade was on the list but was also checked for download

No other updates were checked for download

I had my settings selected of autodownload so the next time I started my computer it would have proceeded to install Windows 10

I reset my computer to notify before downloading updates

I stupid thing is that I have an old laptap that doesn't even have the hardware resourses to handle Windows 10 So the install would either be refused or it would proceed and failed half way through wrecking my computer

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
31. I set my Windows 7 PC to always ask before downloading/installing.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:16 PM
Mar 2016

I was getting a pop-up several times a day asking me if I was ready for Windows 10.
Nah, I'm good!

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
36. The Always Ask option does not work You have to select Never Search For Updates option and
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:02 PM
Mar 2016

uncheck the boxes below as well

If you select the always ask option and check updates again and you will find Win 10 checked in
the available updates menu again even though you have unchecked the update

Microsoft is determined to force every Windows user into Win 10 whether they want it or not and in spite of their computers lacking the resources to install and run it

Microsoft has turned the the PC into a Cable TV set top box model where you will be forced to accept and pay for every upgrade whether you want it or need it

I updated my machine only a month ago and their are now thirty more recommended updates in the dropdown menu Microsoft is purposely force feeding updates to bog down your machine and force people into Win 10

Big Gov has nothing on Big Corp in terms of their determination to control our lives and live in our wallets

The best plan is to assume your Win 7 machine is no longer supported by Microsoft and run it until it starts to fail and buy a Mac





















Orrex

(63,240 posts)
39. The spy settings should be off by default
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:22 AM
Mar 2016

You should have to opt-in to spying only by deliberate and unambiguous choice.

And it's ridiculous that an allegedly top tier operating system should require any manual editing of the registry.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
37. It happened to me.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:15 PM
Mar 2016

I managed to revert back to 7, but 10 keeps intruding. Steve2470 gave me a link to something that should get rid of it entirely, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
41. That happened to me.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

I had been postponing it - they gave me that one hour, one day, one week thing .... so I kept saying one week thinking I could head it off completely, somehow. I went out to cut grass and it was installing. I let it finish because I feared losing all my files (I do accounting, invoicing, etc. for a couple of small oil companies a few days a week) and hunted on the internet for a way to get rid of it, which I did. It made me angry though that it would install by itself the way it did after I had chosen to 'postpone' it.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
44. I'm on dish internet and limited to 5 GB per month. I keep getting the message to download
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

Windows 10. Windows 10 download is more than my 5 GB monthly internet allowance. I like Windows 7 and why in hell would I use up my monthly internet allowance and have to pay dish for more data for something I don't even want?

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
48. This is a much more serious problem than it appears. When you see Win 10 as a recommended update
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:52 AM
Mar 2016

it has already been downloaded to your commputer with the installer and all the files waiting to be executed

Just like a virus hiding in the background waiting for you to reboot to trigger the install

If you go with the show me updates before installing route you will find Wind 10 'update' already checked

If you disable updates by going the never check for updates route the same thing will happen if you try to update in the future Win 10 will be on the list already checked

If you uncheck it and reboot it will show up again on the list already checked

This is because the entire Wind 10 downloader installer with all the necessary files are sitting in your programs folder without your knowledge

The only solution is to remove the Win 10 install files from your computer and block all future Win 10 updates from Microsoft

The following utility does that and appears to work after I installed it and rebooted and checked Win Updates three times The download is free and it works


It's called GWX Control Panel

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

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