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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:12 PM Mar 2016

Carl Bernstein: Drumpf Is Birthing a New ‘American Fascism’

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/carl-bernstein-trump-is-birthing-a-new-american-fascism/

Veteran journalist Carl Bernstein continued his insistence today that Donald Trump is a neo-fascist.

He told CNN’s Brian Stelter that Trump is “a new kind of fascist in our culture” with an “authoritarian demagogic point of view.” And just to give you some idea of how far he was taking this, Bernstein said George Wallace was “merely a racist” when Trump’s appeal “goes to authoritarianism, this goes to despotism.”

Bernstein wants cable news to start having serious conversations about Trump’s fascist tendencies and how he fits into the bigger picture of fascist leaders throughout history.

He made it clear he’s never said this about any other living American politician, but Trump really is just that disturbing.


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Carl Bernstein: Drumpf Is Birthing a New ‘American Fascism’ (Original Post) KamaAina Mar 2016 OP
The Truth..is .."The Truth" different equation Mar 2016 #1
I am glad that what we have know for a while is FINALLY getting some Media exposure. bvar22 Mar 2016 #2
Important quibble: Sarah Palin showed this to us in 2008, not 2004 YoungDemCA Mar 2016 #3
My bad. Of course it was 2008. bvar22 Mar 2016 #4
I don't think he "birthed" it...it was there waiting for a leader...nt joeybee12 Mar 2016 #5
Trump and Griffin's Fascist Minimum alan2102 Mar 2016 #6
Recommended! HuckleB Mar 2016 #7

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. I am glad that what we have know for a while is FINALLY getting some Media exposure.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:54 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:42 PM - Edit history (1)

However, I disagree with Carl Bernstein. He isn't "birthing" anything.
He has merely tapped into the undercurrent of Fascism that has always existed
here, and given them a loud, voice that has attracted haters, bigots, Birchers, KKK, Skin Heads, White Supremists, and the easily fooled, low information haters, and given them a outlet and a focal point.

Sarah Palin showed this to us in 2008, and how easily these people will follow an authoritarian as long as they talk in hate slogans and vague nationalism.

And, YES. I said "these people".
In this case, it applies.

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
3. Important quibble: Sarah Palin showed this to us in 2008, not 2004
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

After all, who was the Democratic nominee (and eventual winner of the presidential election) in 2008? That is a critical detail in discussions regarding the ugly undercurrents in American society of racism, white supremacy, xenophobia, and other forms of hatred and bigotry.

 

alan2102

(75 posts)
6. Trump and Griffin's Fascist Minimum
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

Trump appears to meet the "fascist minimum" as described by one of the leading scholars on fascism, Roger Griffin: *palingenetic ultranationalism*. Palingenesis -- rising up, once again, from defeat or embarrassment, to renewed greatness. "Make America great again". Ultranationalism -- no definition required.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palingenetic_ultranationalism
Palingenetic ultranationalism is a theory concerning generic fascism formulated by British political theorist Roger Griffin.[1][2] The key elements are that fascism can be defined by its core myth, namely that of "national rebirth" — palingenesis.[1][2] Griffin argues that the unique synthesis of palingenesis and ultranationalism differentiates fascism from para-fascism and other authoritarian nationalist ideologies.[1][2] This is what he calls the "fascist minimum" without which there is no fascism.[1][2]

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