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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Open Letter to Trump Supporters.....that lost me a few friends
So, folks, here's the deal: You can support Donald Trump. This is America and you can support any sociopathic, lying, hate filled, violent misogynist that tickles your fancy. But you have to stop considering yourself honorable or decent. Cause this is life and you don't get to have it both ways. You can fool yourself into thinking you can...but you can't. Supporting Donald Trump is a choice. And by our choices we reveal ourselves to the world. Again, tell yourself you are being pragmatic. Tell yourself you are succumbing to the inevitable. Tell YOURSELF whatever you need to get through the day. But do not think you are fooling anyone but you.
No one will ever forget this. No one will ever forget that you aligned yourself with THAT. Because this is life and people will pretend to ignore your choices, but they don't and they don't forget.
So, vote for Trump. Tell yourself it is because he is...Good God, I have nothing for that. I have nothing for how someone supports a person who encourages the general public to punch people in the face. Who stands for LITERALLY nothing but hate. Who puts forth ZERO agenda other than "I'm GREAT!!" That supports going outside the law to achieve his agenda...yet who has not even given a single concrete indication of what his agenda actually is. You are going to have to go through the mental gymnastics that allow you to reconcile supporting that vile piece of shit with your vision of yourself as a decent human being on your own. I am simply not quite that agile.
Tell yourself whatever you have to. But stop telling the rest of us anything about nobility of spirit or honor or decency. Cause you just lost the right to that stuff. And that is the important stuff. That is the stuff that will still be here long after your pragmatic choice is a horrific side note in a history book.
And for Gods sake (literally), stop telling me you are a Christian. I have studied the Bible from cover to cover and Donald Trump is not a candidate for Jesus. Find me ONE verse in the Bible attributed to Jesus that even gets you in the ballpark of supporting Donald Trump and I will listen. But I sure couldnt find one. Leviticus, maybe. New Testament...no. (BTW, I have always found it interesting that the faith is CHRISTianity, but the followers always fall back on the Old Testament to justify their bigotry and hatred. I would think that if you are genuinely a person of faith, your beliefs would stem from the New Testament and the Old Testament would be used for context...but what do I know. Oh, and NO, kicking the money changers and sellers of sacrificial animals out of the temple does not count. Yes, Jesus got angry. No, it is not anything like Donald Trump being angry.)
And if you support Donald Trump because you are angry that your party did not get their way for the last eight years...grow up. Children destroy things because they did not get their way. Destroying America with Donald Trump because you are pissed about Obama is what toddlers in day care do when they would rather break the toy than share it. Stop telling me you love America if any of THAT figures into your....reasoning.
Let your anger guide you. Let your hate guide you. Let your inability to stand for what you truly believe in guide you. Fine. If the will of the people is hatred and ugliness, so be it. But that is not my will and never will be. I do not choose to be two people. I choose to be honorable. I will vote my conscience and you vote your anger and pragmatism.
But stop telling me that you are a decent human being. And stop telling me what a great Christian you are. Going to church does not make you a Christian any more than standing in a garage will make me a mechanic. It is by your ACTIONS that you are known as a Christian. So, act like one.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)but probably too many words for tRump supporters. Plus it is thought provoking and they can only think so deep.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Of the people who say they are supporting Trump out of pragmatism to THINK.
I needed to get it off my chest.
StandingInLeftField
(972 posts)I'm glad you felt compelled to "tell it like it is" and let the chips fall where they may.
"Oh, and NO, kicking the money changers and sellers of sacrificial animals out of the temple does not count. Yes, Jesus got angry. No, it is not anything like Donald Trump being angry." It's like BERNIE being angry!
renie408
(9,854 posts)Call yourself a Christian and you choose Trump over Bernie?
Bullshit.
nruthie
(466 posts)ghostsinthemachine
(3,569 posts)When it comes to race and misogyny. Far to the left of even HRC (who is by no means a liberal) on most policy issues.
But all the Trump nutz hear is the racial,misogynist things. And that is where their heads are. And that is scary.
renie408
(9,854 posts)I don't agree with Rubio, but he is a REAL choice. Cruz is harder for me to see as a real candidate, but I get evangelicals who say he's their choice. Don't agree with it...but I understand.
Trump? WTF is THAT?
tblue37
(65,477 posts)world wide wally
(21,751 posts)warming, and education, and...
The Blue Flower
(5,444 posts)Thanks for sharing. Doonesbury nailed it a couple of Sundays ago, listing the seven deadly sins and how Herr Drumpf embodies each one of them, and asking the evangelicals what they could possibly be thinking.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)I don't know where to start.
You start off with your condescension and you insult the people you want us to believe you are trying to convince?
You obviously intended to lose a few friends and then you come here and post this for what purpose, affirmation?
Writing and acting like this will ensure a Trump presidency. Is your knowledge of human nature that lacking that you think this is any way persuasive?
Are you a Christian? Having read the Bible from cover to cover means nothing. There is nothing my fellow Christians love more than non believers telling us what the Bible and Jesus said and meant. It's bad enough when Christian do it.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Your concern is, however, noted.
I am not concerned in the least but it annoys me when people proudly come here to post screeds like this and expect ovations.
Well, now I am familiar with your stance on screeds. Good to know.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,022 posts)and I have zero problem with non Christians weighing in on Christianity, neither do most Christians I know. But then again I tend to avoid right-wing theofascist Christians.
And don't worry about Trump voters being talked down to, most won't understand the "big" words in the letter anyway.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)So the people that need to read it will even bother.
renie408
(9,854 posts)A couple of the people I had in mind when I wrote this are not stupid. And right up until they started supporting Trump, I would have counted them as good people. They consider him the pragmatic choice.
Viva_La_Revolution
(28,791 posts)So either they cant be as smart as you think, or they are and are voting for him anyway. Which is way worse than not knowing any better.
renie408
(9,854 posts)Two weeks ago, they agreed with me that Trump is a bad joke. But somewhere they gave in and are finding reasons to support him. That is what scares the fuck out of me.I had figured that most Republicans would turn away from him somewhere along the way, so the odds of him getting to a GE were limited. I don't THINK he can win. But he will burn this country to the ground in the process of losing.
disillusioned73
(2,872 posts)I don't go on FB enough to see what people might be posting lately.. but I may have to share this as we get closer to November
haele
(12,667 posts)After leaving the playground where you pretended to be a "bad guy" or a "good guy", you could always go back to Daddy and Mommy (or parental surrogates) who would take care of your needs. Doesn't matter if they're good parents or bad parents, you would usually have the basics to survive: a roof of some sort over your head and some amount of food and care that they would provide for you.
Voting for Trump is like running away to live with the playground bully who doesn't have a Mommy or Daddy to take care of both you and him because you think that his approval of your support of his whims and declarations made you besties with him.
Who is going to be kicking you out of his kingdom because you start asking him for support you need when he doesn't feel like sharing with you?
Haele