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jpak

(41,758 posts) Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:39 PM Mar 2016

The UVa student sentenced to 15 years by N. Korea stole the poster as a trophy for a church

http://www.kansas.com/news/nation-world/article66341052.html

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Before the trial, Warmbier had said he tried to steal a propaganda banner as a trophy for an acquaintance who wanted to hang it in her church. That would be grounds in North Korea for a subversion charge. He identified the church as Friendship United Methodist Church. Meshach Kanyion, pastor of the church in Wyoming, declined to comment Wednesday.

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The UVa student sentenced to 15 years by N. Korea stole the poster as a trophy for a church (Original Post) jpak Mar 2016 OP

Stealing something to put in a church? Where is that mentioned in Jesus' words? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #1

Now, Lo, they that rip off the Dear Leader for their church trophies will get 15 years at hard labor jpak Mar 2016 #2

I guess it's better than feeding them to the lions. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #3

or the Fiery Furnace jpak Mar 2016 #4

Silly fundies. The Moonies have the franchise on converting NK. KamaAina Mar 2016 #5

to be fair it was "for a girl..." OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #7

Abstinence Only has its pitfalls jpak Mar 2016 #9

Ten years working in a cabbage field for a stupid prank You don't fuck around in NK Monk06 Mar 2016 #6

I agree, and although it feels like blaming phylny Mar 2016 #11

My brother inlaw who's a transexual said a client of his wanted him to travel to Islamabad Monk06 Mar 2016 #13

Let his church get him out elfin Mar 2016 #8

If you read the article linuxman Mar 2016 #16

A martyr! yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2016 #10

Stupid, but certainly not worth 15 years in a labor camp stupid. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #12

Or at the very least, don't do something this stupid while you're there. WillowTree Mar 2016 #20

an entitled Fundie? I'm shocked! Takket Mar 2016 #14

Where did you read he's a fundie? linuxman Mar 2016 #15

So where does it say he's a fundie? ButterflyBlood Mar 2016 #21

Is his defense that he's a Methodist actor? Baitball Blogger Mar 2016 #17

This should serve as a warning to any would-be "tourists"... tritsofme Mar 2016 #18

Amen geomon666 Mar 2016 #19

Stealing fer Jesus... Unrepentant Fenian Mar 2016 #22

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

1. Stealing something to put in a church? Where is that mentioned in Jesus' words?

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:41 PM

Mar 2016

jpak

(41,758 posts)

2. Now, Lo, they that rip off the Dear Leader for their church trophies will get 15 years at hard labor

Reply to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:45 PM

Mar 2016

I do believe that every American that has been recently arrested by NK was a fundie.

yup

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)

3. I guess it's better than feeding them to the lions.

Reply to jpak (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:47 PM

Mar 2016

jpak

(41,758 posts)

4. or the Fiery Furnace

Reply to hobbit709 (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:48 PM

Mar 2016

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)

5. Silly fundies. The Moonies have the franchise on converting NK.

Reply to jpak (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:50 PM

Mar 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_Church_and_North_Korea#Post-Soviet_era

In 1991 Moon travelled to North Korea to meet with its president, Kim Il-sung. In 1992 Kim gave his first and only interview with the Western news media to Washington Times reporter Josette Sheeran (who later became Executive Director of the United Nations World Food Programme). In 1994, Moon was officially invited to Kim's funeral, in spite of the absence of diplomatic relations between North Korea and South Korea.

In 1998, Unification Church-related businesses launched operations in North Korea with the approval of the government of South Korea, which had prohibited business relationships between North and South before. In 2000, the church-associated business group Tongil Group founded Pyeonghwa Motors in the North Korean port of Nampo, in cooperation with the North Korean government. It was the first automobile factory in North Korea.

During the presidency of George W. Bush, Dong Moon Joo, a Unification Church member and then president of The Washington Times, undertook unofficial diplomatic missions to North Korea in an effort to improve its relationship with the United States. Joo was born in North Korea and is a citizen of the United States....

In 2010 in Pyongyang, to mark the 20th anniversary of Moon's visit to Kim Il-sung, de jure President Kim Yong-nam hosted Moon's son Hyung Jin Moon, then the president of the Unification Church, in his official residence. At that time, Hyung Jin Moon donated 600 tons of flour to the children of Jeongju, the birthplace of Sun Myung Moon.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)

7. to be fair it was "for a girl..."

Reply to hobbit709 (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:15 PM

Mar 2016

Guys will do some stooooopid shit for a girl.

jpak

(41,758 posts)

9. Abstinence Only has its pitfalls

Reply to OriginalGeek (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:20 PM

Mar 2016

yup

Monk06

(7,675 posts)

6. Ten years working in a cabbage field for a stupid prank You don't fuck around in NK

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:51 PM

Mar 2016

If your dumb enough to go there in the first place that is

Rodman sucked up to Kim Chee the One so that he could get out of NK with his life

Kim Jr is a very dangerous man in the mould of Pablo Escobar Vain, unpredictable and ruthless

phylny

(8,380 posts)

11. I agree, and although it feels like blaming

Reply to Monk06 (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:06 PM

Mar 2016

the victim of a corrupt and dangerous government and leader, you don't mess with a corrupt and dangerous government and leader.

Case in point - my husband had the opportunity to work in Saudi Arabia when our children were young. I thought about it for less than a second and said, "No." It would have feathered our nest nicely, but with three young daughters (two blonde), I knew what the country was about and that it wouldn't be wise to go there.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)

13. My brother inlaw who's a transexual said a client of his wanted him to travel to Islamabad

Reply to phylny (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:10 PM

Mar 2016

to do a painting of his favorite Mosque

I told him as a transexual going to Islamabad to paint an image of a mosque, he would be arrested and spend ten years in a Pakistani jail if he wasn't lynched first

Some places you don't go and if you do knowing the risks you are either brave or stupid

Stealing a propaganda poster and trying to smuggle it out of NK qualifies as stupid

elfin

(6,262 posts)

8. Let his church get him out

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:19 PM

Mar 2016

Do not spend any taxpayer resources on this idiot missionary wannabe.

linuxman

(2,337 posts)

16. If you read the article

Reply to elfin (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:42 PM

Mar 2016

you'd know it said nothing about him having a church, much less believing in God.

He'll be out shortly, as most other Americans are who've been in this situation over the years. Much to your chagrin too, I suppose.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)

10. A martyr!

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:30 PM

Mar 2016

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)

12. Stupid, but certainly not worth 15 years in a labor camp stupid.

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 07:07 PM

Mar 2016

Certainly a reminder to leave the world's worst totalitarian shithole off your vacation list.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)

20. Or at the very least, don't do something this stupid while you're there.

Reply to Warren DeMontague (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:13 PM

Mar 2016

Takket

(21,577 posts)

14. an entitled Fundie? I'm shocked!

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:14 PM

Mar 2016

linuxman

(2,337 posts)

15. Where did you read he's a fundie?

Reply to Takket (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:39 PM

Mar 2016

It said he was trying to get it to give to some woman who wanted to put it in her church. I wouldn't even be able to ascertain whether SHE is even a fundamentalist based on this article. Could you walk me through your thought process a bit?

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)

21. So where does it say he's a fundie?

Reply to Takket (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:13 PM

Mar 2016

Is everyone who goes to church a fundie?

Baitball Blogger

(46,736 posts)

17. Is his defense that he's a Methodist actor?

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:55 PM

Mar 2016

tritsofme

(17,380 posts)

18. This should serve as a warning to any would-be "tourists"...

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:04 PM

Mar 2016

Anyone who enters that country as a tourist is unbelievably stupid.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)

19. Amen

Reply to tritsofme (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 10:09 PM

Mar 2016

Way to keep that pig Kim Jun Un fat and wealthy by giving him fucking tourist dollars.

Unrepentant Fenian

(1,078 posts)

22. Stealing fer Jesus...

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 11:28 PM

Mar 2016

Stealing fer Jesus... Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! A hypocrite Christian doing something this stupid in a country like North Korea, I guess this is the point where he hopes the "works in mysterious ways" thing kicks in.

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