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You know what they used to do with protesters when they "got out of line"... (Original Post) Turborama Mar 2016 OP
Thank you for this, and this is exactly what Trump was referring to. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #1
And Donald and his rich buddies would have been doing the shooting also. LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #9
No, not really. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #27
1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago Jim Beard Mar 2016 #29
Yup. Remember it well. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #30
I was far away and as you, I remember it well. Jim Beard Mar 2016 #34
Thanks for the reminder saidsimplesimon Mar 2016 #44
we AIN'T seen nuthin yet heaven05 Mar 2016 #2
Watch out unless you're a white Christian male. Everyone else is fair game SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #7
Donald reminds me of the old adage about porn, '" a society gets the porn they deserve " ahead in orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #3
Yep, Dump is knowingly inciting violence at his rallies for cheap political gain. Rex Mar 2016 #4
TRUCK FUMP! eShirl Mar 2016 #5
YES! TUCK DUMP! Rex Mar 2016 #6
DUCK, FRUMP! SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #8
THUMP TRUMP in November! napkinz Mar 2016 #19
So aren't those trump supporters/voters totally dissing WWII SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #11
I agree 100%. Rex Mar 2016 #24
Yeah, and we beat them all by ourselves? Jim Beard Mar 2016 #31
Depends on who you ask. Rex Mar 2016 #33
TheRump-lickers think "political correctness" is Liberal fascism. They see themselves as heroes & Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #39
Don't know if this is appropriate here, but RoBear Mar 2016 #41
Like romney protesting for the Vietnam war cutroot Mar 2016 #10
Except you can't compare the Kent State rioters (yes, they were rioters) to Trump's protestors. Archae Mar 2016 #12
They are not "silent", nor are they a "majority", except in Republican Primary voters circles. world wide wally Mar 2016 #14
I know. "Silent Majority" was always a myth. Remember, this was Nixon-era politics. Archae Mar 2016 #15
Same with Tea Party Jim Beard Mar 2016 #32
No riots on the 4th HeartLikeAWheel Mar 2016 #16
Thank you. narnian60 Mar 2016 #20
Thank you HeartLikeAWheel NEOhiodemocrat Mar 2016 #26
Two of the students killed weren't even participating in the protests! That's bullwinkle428 Mar 2016 #37
I thank you too. montana_hazeleyes Mar 2016 #46
It's the punishment he's reminiscing about when he refers to bringing back "the old days". n/t Turborama Mar 2016 #28
This is why I don't understand the support Rebkeh Mar 2016 #13
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, PatrickforO Mar 2016 #17
this summer, the convention will be in OHIO napkinz Mar 2016 #18
Beat me on getting this posted Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #21
to borrow from Trump, I worry about "bad things happening" ... napkinz Mar 2016 #22
I literally just got a chill... riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #40
Don't forget firehoses and police dogs for the black protestors. Not to mention ropes strung... Hekate Mar 2016 #23
I won't alert on this but I don't like the idea of giving evil ideas to evil people. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #25
Those evil people already have those evil ideas. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #35
Yeah, that's called deception. We can't hide our embarrassing history, shouldn't try. Btw, the jtuck004 Mar 2016 #38
I was one of 13,000 arrested once. braddy Mar 2016 #36
I was teaching in western Kansas at the time, and RoBear Mar 2016 #42
I hear the drumming • Four dead in O-hi-o FraDon Mar 2016 #43
Kent State was not the first time protesters were shot and killed here by our govenment burfman Mar 2016 #45
Thanks for this information burfman. montana_hazeleyes Mar 2016 #47
posted by KamaAina napkinz Mar 2016 #48

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
1. Thank you for this, and this is exactly what Trump was referring to.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

How can you vote for someone who despises that which is the very thing that created this country?

Are they that ignorant of history?

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
9. And Donald and his rich buddies would have been doing the shooting also.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

The white rich kids were the ones doing the beating back then.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
27. No, not really.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:07 PM
Mar 2016

During the Vietnam war protests the conservatives were mostly blue-collar white men; they were the ones who were beating up the hippies, who were mostly middle-class white college students. The really rich kids didn't get involved at all because they knew they could avoid the draft in various ways, kind of like Bush did, so Vietnam was no skin off their butts. They weren't beating anybody up; they didn't have to. They were just hanging out and getting drunk at their frat houses.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
44. Thanks for the reminder
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:16 PM
Mar 2016

I was not in the area for this horror show. It was shocking that Democrats of the era were beating up kids.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
3. Donald reminds me of the old adage about porn, '" a society gets the porn they deserve " ahead in
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

the polls, bringing the morons out, who used to stay home .

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Yep, Dump is knowingly inciting violence at his rallies for cheap political gain.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:31 PM
Mar 2016

His hero did the same thing in Germany.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
11. So aren't those trump supporters/voters totally dissing WWII
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

Veterans, those who fought and died and those who fought and lived, to defeat Hitler and fascism?

Sure seems like these upstanding Americans are pissing all over those who fought and died, to protect us from the likes of the fascist Trump.

Seems mighty un-American, I'd say.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
24. I agree 100%.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

Then again how many of them know anything about WWII (besides we beat the bad guys) is debatable. I know that sounds absurd, but we are talking about republicans that only operate on emotion.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
39. TheRump-lickers think "political correctness" is Liberal fascism. They see themselves as heroes &
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:19 AM
Mar 2016

TheRump-lickers think "political correctness" is Liberal fascism because it prevents them from being vulgar and misogynistic and racist (which they don't recognize as misogyny and racism). They see themselves as heroes defending 'real' American freedoms, and "in the know", more informed than ignorant socialists, libruhls, and commies.

It's a warped view, but it is hermetic (sealed in) because Right-Wing Authoritarian followers do not seek contradictory info and ignore it when they stumble on it. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7680127

RoBear

(1,188 posts)
41. Don't know if this is appropriate here, but
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

your comment on "political correctness" made me think of Paul Monette: "All you have to do to be politically correct is don't be an asshole."

Archae

(46,326 posts)
12. Except you can't compare the Kent State rioters (yes, they were rioters) to Trump's protestors.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:31 PM
Mar 2016

For the most part, the protestors against Trump have been peaceful, it's the Trump goons that are the rioters.
(And no, I'm not excusing the Ohio National Guard either.)

Like that old racist jackass who sucker-punched a Trump protestor who was being peaceful.

Trump is getting the support of the Nixonian "silent majority," the low-class jerks who will resort to fists, knives, clubs and guns.
They want to "Make America great again," that is, back to the good old days when white men ruled the roost, "the little woman" and them non-uppity n****** "knew their place."

When punks could beat up "dem queers" with impunity.

When calling someone a "communist" could ruin their lives.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
14. They are not "silent", nor are they a "majority", except in Republican Primary voters circles.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:16 PM
Mar 2016

Even in that case, they are only a plurality

Archae

(46,326 posts)
15. I know. "Silent Majority" was always a myth. Remember, this was Nixon-era politics.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

Just like the 80's "Moral Majority."

Tiny minorities that made a big stink to look bigger than they actually are.

Last year this (as Trump would say it,) "YUUUUGGGEEE" rally was promoted like hell, of "ex-gays."

About 7 or 8 showed up.

Don't forget the infamous photo from here of the "pro-war majority."

HeartLikeAWheel

(19 posts)
16. No riots on the 4th
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

No, there were no riots at Kent State on May 4, 1970. There had been disturbances downtown over the weekend, mainly when the local police closed the bars, and a wooden ROTC building was burned, but on May 4 there was a large demonstration, met by a National Guard that had been urged to "get tough." I say this as someone who grew up in Kent, Ohio, and who was a high school student at the university lab school then. As my mother said at the time, "I was in San Francisco on V-J Day. I know what a riot looks like, and that was no riot."

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
37. Two of the students killed weren't even participating in the protests! That's
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:53 AM
Mar 2016

exactly how "discriminating" the Ohio National Guard decided to be when they made the choice to open fire.

PatrickforO

(14,571 posts)
17. Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:29 PM
Mar 2016

We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio!

Gotta get down to it.
Soldiers are cutting us down.
What if you knew her, and found her dead on the ground?
How can you run when you know?

Donald Trump is a despicable human being. He shows every indication of wanting to usher in a fascist era in this nation, and must, must, must be opposed at every step by anyone with a conscience.

HOW CAN YOU RUN WHEN YOU KNOW??????????????????????????

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
22. to borrow from Trump, I worry about "bad things happening" ...
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 03:05 PM
Mar 2016
Cleveland seeking to buy riot gear for Republican National Convention

read more: http://www.cleveland.com/rnc-2016/index.ssf/2016/03/cleveland_seeking_to_buy_riot.html

Trump militia forms to ‘forcefully protect’ rally goers against ‘far-left agitators’

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/trump-militia-forms-to-forcefully-protect-rally-goers-against-far-left-agitators/

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
25. I won't alert on this but I don't like the idea of giving evil ideas to evil people.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

That photo is heartbreaking. I lived through that era and it was scary and painful. I don't think we should propel this thinking into the political atmosphere with this kind of hurtful visual.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
35. Those evil people already have those evil ideas.
Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:03 PM
Mar 2016

There's nothing new here that they haven't already thought of.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
38. Yeah, that's called deception. We can't hide our embarrassing history, shouldn't try. Btw, the
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

"visual" isn't what caused the the pain. It was from the fascists who decided their bullets were more important than our right to protest.

Better would be to acknowledge it and keep it from happening again. Else the real estate swindler might fool someone.

RoBear

(1,188 posts)
42. I was teaching in western Kansas at the time, and
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

one of the teachers commented, "They got less than they deserved."

Talk about jerking me full-fledged into the small but vocal--and I think, thanks to teabaggers, growing--group of liberals who stand profoundly against while being constantly astounded by the whole right-wing rot threatening to overtake the country, just as it has the government of Brownbackistan.

Sadly, although the Kochs and their ilk realize what their philosophies will do, the people who vote republican do not. They should look at Kansas!!!!

FraDon

(518 posts)
43. I hear the drumming • Four dead in O-hi-o
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

I was a student at the time, and an anti-war organizer. My poor hard-of-hearing mother said when she reached me in a panic, "I knew you weren't one of the killed or they would have called. Were you shot?"

" Oh, Mom," I said, "That just happened at KENT State; I go to PENN State - with a P!"

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