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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:06 AM Mar 2016

The system is rigged: Dark money, Citizens United and the secret story of how big money




Wendell Potter and Nick Penniman


The system is just this rigged: Dark money, Citizens United and the secret story of how big money stole our democracy


Congressmen beg for bucks. Super PACs run the show. Dark money flows into state legislatures. This is why we're mad

Not too far from the Capitol Hill townhouses are the call centers that both Democrats and Republicans use to dial for dollars. Endlessly.

This is how Senator Dick Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, described it: “We sit at these desks with stacks of names in front of us and short bios and histories of giving . . . and we make calls to our faithful friends and ask them to give money or host a fundraiser.”

(snip)

As the CNN reporter Teddy Schleifer, who covers money in politics, put it, “A century ago, party bosses ruled cities. Today, super PACs are in charge. Elections in the nation’s cities are increasingly the territory of deep-pocketed donors who are finding that a dollar spent in a low-cost municipal race can easily put an ally in power.”
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The system is rigged: Dark money, Citizens United and the secret story of how big money (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 OP
It's not that much of a secret. The American people have fallen asleep. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #1
Put to sleep, not fallen pbmus Mar 2016 #7
It's also called willful ignorance. Phlem Mar 2016 #10
Here's an interesting article I found monicaangela Mar 2016 #2
MUCH more recently than a century ago. merrily Mar 2016 #3
BIG K&R!! As Bernie says, "the system is rigged" nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #4
K&R nenagh Mar 2016 #5
It's a rigged system and many still call it a democracy, that they have free choice, and RKP5637 Mar 2016 #6
Bernie "rigged" "rigged" "rigged" Bernie tells the truth! bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #8
Kick and Rec Jackilope Mar 2016 #9
Yep... davidthegnome Mar 2016 #11

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
10. It's also called willful ignorance.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

When you ask them to do their own research, they won't have it.

From Isaac Asimov:

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
2. Here's an interesting article I found
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:14 AM
Mar 2016

You might enjoy reading it: The Commercial Energy Working Group (CEWG) is one of the many lobbying organizations in Washington. They make recommendations to federal agencies and try to sway lawmakers on policies. They engage in the basic political work of making the government friendlier to business.

There’s only one problem: who the Commercial Energy Working Group actually represents is a secret.

This violates federal lobbying and ethics laws, according to Public Citizen’s Tyson Slocum, who has urged the House and Senate to investigate the matter. “The Commercial Energy Working Group is one of the most active – and secret – organizations seeking to undermine energy market regulations,” Slocum told The Intercept. “The purpose of my complaint is to force the group to start identifying its membership.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/20/mysterious-powerful-lobbying-group-wont-even-say-who-its-lobbying-for/

merrily

(45,251 posts)
3. MUCH more recently than a century ago.
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

In 1952, Kefauver won the primaries. Every primary held at that time, IIRC, but I can't swear to it.

The party bosses were angry with Kefauver because his investigation of "the mob," which had made him so popular with Democratic primary voters, had also revealed connections between the mob and Democratic party bosses (which we heard about again when JFK ran).

The nominee in 1952 was Adlai Stevenson, chosen at the convention by Truman and other party bosses, after Stevenson vacillated like crazy over accepting the nomination. He lost.

In 1968, Humphrey entered the contest too late to enter anyprimary. The party bosses wanted him and decided to try to sell him as a conservative Democrat for the South, even though Wallace, running third party, was far likelier than Humphrey to get votes of Southern Democrats who were not still totally loyal to Democrats. He lost.

I've only been looking at Democratic nominees in Presidential elections, start with 1948 and I've only gotten as far as 1968 so far. So, I don't know if there is a more recent example--other than Sanders in 2016, of course--but even 1968 was not a century ago.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
6. It's a rigged system and many still call it a democracy, that they have free choice, and
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

their vote controls the system. What a ridiculous notion. Their vote counts, but often for manipulated choices.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
9. Kick and Rec
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:51 PM
Mar 2016

Not that the rabid HRC loyalists will find anything wrong with rigging the system. They will enable and defend that crap as long as it's a "real Democrat" doing the rigging.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
11. Yep...
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:22 PM
Mar 2016

When we dare to say anything about it, we are accused of engaging in class warfare... the kind that has been, you know, successfully waged against everyone who is NOT rich, for decades.

The media mocks Sanders for being a "socialist", deliberately leaving out the "democratic" part. Meanwhile, we have two front runners who are both very, very rich in comparison to nearly all of us. How can we expect people who spend most of their time raising money through super PACs to listen to us? I mean, unless it's through NSA spy programs or something. Follow the money and you'll find the rot that infests our government down it's very core. Enough is enough. Our democracy, our jobs, our politicians, our futures, our lives... all for sale to the highest bidder.

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