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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:03 AM Mar 2016

This is one smart guy. He knows his counter-terrorism...



He destroyed most of Trump's so-called "foreign policy" and strongman posturing, just now on MSNBC.

Apparently, the Donald was on the Today show spewing more rubbish about how he would personally authorize "waterboarding and much worse" for captured terrorists à la Abdeslam.

Malcolm Nance (paraphrasing): "This irresponsible, rabble-rousing rhetoric MUST STOP. Firstly, the US military and intelligence services will REFUSE to carry out any such executive orders, as they are required by law to do.

Secondly, this outrageous saber-rattling on the part of a presidential candidate is the BEST recruiting tool you can hand to Daesh (ISIS) at this critical juncture.

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Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
1. I posted a summary of what he said in a reply on
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:39 AM
Mar 2016

Another thread. Thanks for getting this one started.

He said quite clearly that US military leadership learned their lesson about participating in torture, and the blowback it creates, especially on them. He hammered Trump for his comments to Matt Lauer this morning.

He also talked about the guy the Paris police shot and arrested. Said that man appeared to have had a change of heart and disabled and threw away his suicide vest in the big attack. This is someone they want to get as much information as possible from, and torture will just cause him to provide only disinformation.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
3. That, and gets called as an advisor
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

to these politicians that former CIA director Gates called idiots on foreign policy.

Kick & Rec. More people need to see your OP.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. I find him SO impressive. Measured and restrained, but obviously
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

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experienced and eminently qualified.

Time the idiot pols started listening to the experts.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
11. Yes, I did. And, as a retired English teacher, I stand corrected.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

Typing too fast--and spell-check doesn't catch misusage.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
15. If you win and defeat the enemy, you don't have to spend all the money. Think of the poor
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

congress critters that might starve if they did not get the MIC funding.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
16. Seriously - why do we keep losing?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

Ask all the private contractors that worked in Iraq if "losing" was a bad thing??

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
6. If this guy doesn't get an extremely high-ranking position regarding
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:09 AM
Mar 2016

intelligence in the next administration, it will be a monumental fuck-up.

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
10. I hate to put a damper on his but...
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

He gives the military way too much credit. They had no problem getting service men to go along with torture before, why does he think they would now.

There will always be enough weasels to carry out despicable actions.

sus453

(164 posts)
12. I agree.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

Torture was illegal under the Bush administration, but that had little effect on waterboarding, Abu Graib, etc.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
13. Well, as a consummate insider, he reports that Abu Ghraib
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

was a wake-up call that led to some major shakeups in the command structure.

Obviously, there is always the danger of some nutcase going off the reservation.

But, the general uproar after Trump's first call for water-boarding during the Repub debate is a positive sign.

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