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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 04:54 PM Mar 2016

Urban birds may be smarter than their country cousins, new study suggests

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2016/03/22/urban-birds-may-be-smarter-than-their-country-cousins-new-study-suggests/

"A new study suggests that modern cityscapes may be turning birds into better problem solvers. The McGill University research, published recently in Behavioral Ecology, found that city birds studied were different from their rural counterparts in several ways.

"We found that not only were birds from urbanized areas better at innovative problem-solving tasks than bullfinches from rural environments, but that surprisingly urban birds also had a better immunity than rural birds,” first author Jean-Nicolas Audet, a PhD candidate at McGill, said in a statement.

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So what's the difference between a bold city bruiser and a demure country bird? According to cognitive tests, an awful lot: The city birds really were more bold by some measures (they were quicker to eat food presented to them in a familiar dish by a human who then hid, meaning they cared less about how likely a human was to interrupt their meal), and better at solving problems — getting to food that had been placed in jars or drawers, for example.

They weren't any better or worse at learning to distinguish between different colored dishes that gave them access to food, and they were actually more cautious about obtaining food with unfamiliar objects nearby than their rural cousins were (a trait referred to as neophobia).

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Anyone who has spent time in Buenos Aires, for example, watching the dogs look both ways, and pay serious attention to traffic can see how this might happen. It might be looked upon as evolution in action via big time environmental change.

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Urban birds may be smarter than their country cousins, new study suggests (Original Post) HuckleB Mar 2016 OP
I know dogs and goats malaise Mar 2016 #1
I believe it. HuckleB Mar 2016 #2
These are urban dogs malaise Mar 2016 #3
When you say "urban dogs," do you mean they were strays? HuckleB Mar 2016 #5
urban dogs and urban goats malaise Mar 2016 #7
Got it. HuckleB Mar 2016 #8
On the other hand this is what I remembered when I read your OP malaise Mar 2016 #10
Awesome! I love how things connect. HuckleB Mar 2016 #12
Intelligence = adaptation blogslut Mar 2016 #4
Sometimes, I suspect it's the luck of the close call that leads to the "intelligence." HuckleB Mar 2016 #6
Probably because of better schools... joeybee12 Mar 2016 #9
I want you to go as quickly as possible-don't make a sound until I tell you to run!!!!! MADem Mar 2016 #11
It amazes me how the local squirrels get deference from crows, though. HuckleB Mar 2016 #13
Typical big city elitist article Yavin4 Mar 2016 #14
If it weren't for elitists, I'd have no lists at all. HuckleB Mar 2016 #15

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
2. I believe it.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

Alas, however, none of my dogs ever came close to such skills. Well, I did have a dog who could open doors and drawers. That was related to her obsession with food, as she had been a stray, and, I suppose, had been starving. Still, probably the same process.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
5. When you say "urban dogs," do you mean they were strays?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:16 PM
Mar 2016

Or do you mean they were rural working dogs?

Or am I completely confused. Yeah, I'm confused.

malaise

(268,978 posts)
7. urban dogs and urban goats
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

They just did what they saw others doing although I don't know how given that some folks cross the road anywhere they wanted and assume that traffic will stop. The theory is that all are owned and early in life they would be taken to some grass patch early in the morning and picked up at night - eventually they know their way home. I have seen these goats crossing. The dogs would walk with their owners for the days hustle and return home with them. They are not petted and feted, but they have owners who love and take care of them. They know the streets and are street smart.
I love to see it

malaise

(268,978 posts)
10. On the other hand this is what I remembered when I read your OP
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.read.gov/aesop/004.html

The Æsop for Children

The Town Mouse & the Country Mouse

A Town Mouse once visited a relative who lived in the country. For lunch the Country Mouse served wheat stalks, roots, and acorns, with a dash of cold water for drink. The Town Mouse ate very sparingly, nibbling a little of this and a little of that, and by her manner making it very plain that she ate the simple food only to be polite.

After the meal the friends had a long talk, or rather the Town Mouse talked about her life in the city while the Country Mouse listened. They then went to bed in a cozy nest in the hedgerow and slept in quiet and comfort until morning. In her sleep the Country Mouse dreamed she was a Town Mouse with all the luxuries and delights of city life that her friend had described for her. So the next day when the Town Mouse asked the Country Mouse to go home with her to the city, she gladly said yes.

When they reached the mansion in which the Town Mouse lived, they found on the table in the dining room the leavings of a very fine banquet. There were sweetmeats and jellies, pastries, delicious cheeses, indeed, the most tempting foods that a Mouse can imagine. But just as the Country Mouse was about to nibble a dainty bit of pastry, she heard a Cat mew loudly and scratch at the door. In great fear the Mice scurried to a hiding place, where they lay quite still for a long time, hardly daring to breathe. When at last they ventured back to the feast, the door opened suddenly and in came the servants to clear the table, followed by the House Dog.

The Country Mouse stopped in the Town Mouse's den only long enough to pick up her carpet bag and umbrella.

"You may have luxuries and dainties that I have not," she said as she hurried away, "but I prefer my plain food and simple life in the country with the peace and security that go with it."

Poverty with security is better than plenty in the midst of fear and uncertainty.





HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
12. Awesome! I love how things connect.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

And, of course, there is a reason I feel most at ease with pack on my back in a Wilderness area.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. I want you to go as quickly as possible-don't make a sound until I tell you to run!!!!!
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016



SMART birds....Be Very Afraid!!!!!

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
13. It amazes me how the local squirrels get deference from crows, though.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:01 PM
Mar 2016

You would thing the crows would rule everything with those talons.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
15. If it weren't for elitists, I'd have no lists at all.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

Yes, I am channeling a certain favorite television program of rural '70s elites.

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