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SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:10 PM Mar 2016

Please help us in NC!! This volunteer is worn out.

Last edited Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Our Governor and General Assembly are taking us right over the edge with their disregard for the Constitution and desire to infringe upon peoples' rights to keep a small group of scared people happy.

After volunteering here for 16 years I feel like I'm swimming upstream through glue and I don't know what to do. The biggest change would be getting Gov McCrory out of here and we're up against Koch and Pope money. Sending $5 and $10 and whatever you have to Roy Cooper's campaign against him would be a start I think. If anyone would like to do that, it would mean so much to us here.

http://www.roycooper.com/

https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/41279

My brain is fried from the constant onslaught of political stupid that is happening daily (fed and state) but I'm hoping to have some more links to campaigns that will take out members of the NC General Assembly who voted to hate and discriminate yesterday.

I know it's looking like 1950 in North Carolina but we're still the place where the brine of the ocean meets the sweet fresh water of the river, sweet tea and Dean and Deluca share a street in Charlotte and our progressive beginnings in education are still trying to hold on. I think I'm talking myself into it almost as much as everyone else. It's like our state is on life support and the doctors are dingbats.

Thanks for listening (reading).

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Please help us in NC!! This volunteer is worn out. (Original Post) SaveAmerica Mar 2016 OP
I'm here, too. We have such a steep climb as activists in this state. I think some here blm Mar 2016 #1
So frustrating when you think back on the glory year of 2008! SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #2
I think Chaz Beasley will unseat Charles Jeter. blm Mar 2016 #14
Thank you for that link, I love what I'm seeing there. SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #18
The I-77 toll lane deal is what will hurt McCrory and GOP in this part of NC blm Mar 2016 #23
It's the voting machines RobertEarl Mar 2016 #3
I haven't used a voting machine in years. cwydro Mar 2016 #4
I want to hug my paper ballot every time I vote SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #6
I actually feel pretty confident in our voting machines here SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #5
The machines are still questionable RobertEarl Mar 2016 #8
There's always hope for NC and if the voting machines here SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #9
Overwhelming turnout RobertEarl Mar 2016 #13
I'm not selling anything, by law we can't have machines that flip votes in NC SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #16
It's the voting machines RobertEarl Mar 2016 #19
There is always hope, Let's meet back here on November 9 SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #20
I don't understand why you are letting Art Pope off the hook and laying all of this on Tanuki Mar 2016 #27
Art Pope loves the machines RobertEarl Mar 2016 #29
You should post this in the North Carolina group too. Triana Mar 2016 #7
Ok, I'll take a link there, thanks. SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #10
IF you have an Act Blue account this is faster Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #11
Thank you, I'll add that link to my post! SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #15
Asking a serious question of all dems here passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #12
I agree with all you're saying and I wish I had the answer! SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #17
You might be asking the wrong questions. noamnety Mar 2016 #22
Thanks everyone for your recs, I appreciate it! SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #21
Kicking for visibility and I will contribute a little something to get rid of McCrory Tanuki Mar 2016 #24
Thank you! SaveAmerica Mar 2016 #30
Getting Junior to come out as Trans would probably work. One_Life_To_Give Mar 2016 #25
I cannot believe this won't be taken to the courts still_one Mar 2016 #26
that is the plan - The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #28
McCrony will lose. mmonk Mar 2016 #31

blm

(113,082 posts)
1. I'm here, too. We have such a steep climb as activists in this state. I think some here
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

haven't a clue how much harder we have to work to counter the thugs here. We are a purple state leaning blue, and the GOPs have hardwired themselves into a strong majority. Getting McCrory out is our best chance at even coming close to parity. Us GOTV have to get out almost 2 Dem voters for their one just to break even in the General Assembly.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
2. So frustrating when you think back on the glory year of 2008!
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

That just ramped up their use of hate as a party favor.

Do you have any sources for campaigns that are hopeful for Dems in the state house or senate? I realize we won't be able to get control back this year but changing some now will be better than changing none and to continue to feel like we're floundering.

Thanks!

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
18. Thank you for that link, I love what I'm seeing there.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:39 AM
Mar 2016

Jeter's I77 toll road flip flops are helpful and I like that Beasley has some political experience. We can work on getting some funds to his campaign next.

Thanks, I'm feeling better. More settled now that I have more focus.

blm

(113,082 posts)
23. The I-77 toll lane deal is what will hurt McCrory and GOP in this part of NC
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

ore than any other single issue, imo.

The more Republican voters hear about ALEC the more they distrust any GOP lawmaker affiliated with them. Thom Tillis will NOT be re-elected. He'd lose his home district.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
3. It's the voting machines
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

Ignoring that the voting machines have caused so many republicans to be elected is the problem.

Until then there is no hope for NC,

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
5. I actually feel pretty confident in our voting machines here
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks to Black Box Voting and DU I was able to watch as we got rid of questionable machines and, as far as I know, the result of the 3 approved machines that our BsofE can pick from for elections is still the law.

Unfortunately it was a sweep of Tea Party candidates and Dems who stayed home in 2010 that shook us up. That's my opinion, though, for whatever that's worth. We've been paying for it since.

http://www.ncvoter.net/nchistory.html

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
8. The machines are still questionable
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

It's the voting machines

Ignoring that the voting machines have caused so many republicans to be elected is the problem.

Until then there is no hope for NC,

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
9. There's always hope for NC and if the voting machines here
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

were a problem we wouldn't have elected President Obama, Senator Hagan, Congressman Kissell and our first female Governor Bev Perdue in 2008.

With dedication, perseverance and money to our candidates we'll be on the right side once again.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Overwhelming turnout
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

I wished you'd quit trying to sell me on those damn voting machines.

2008 we activists had just got the state to use paper ballots. The heat was on the machines then. Since then people like you have ignored the machines and now that whole list of folks you listed lost in NC. You're telling me the people of NC totally flipped and I'm telling you the people didn't flip, the machines did the flipping.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
16. I'm not selling anything, by law we can't have machines that flip votes in NC
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:09 AM
Mar 2016

In 2010 a lot of the new voters who were so excited to vote for President Obama in '08 didn't come back out to vote and that made huge changes in state and federal offices in NC. The tea party and folks who manipulate them had the money and swept them into office. The reasons folks gave for not voting included not thinking it was as important as the presidential election, being disillusioned with Obama and how he performed the first 2 years, etc.

Kay Hagan had an well-orchestrated outside campaign come after her including groups of conservative Veterans who canvassed in NC to convince folks that Hagan was responsible for Veterans who had received horrible treatment in Arizona VA (among other outlandish stuff). That was also a non-Presidential election year and although we have more Dems then Rs in NC they get more out to vote in 'minor' elections.

Kissell forgot he was a Democrat and voted like a Republican almost every time he went in to vote. Couldn't be seen with Obama or speak in support of Obama lest he hurt conservatives feelings in the district. He was out on his 3rd campaign which was also non-presidential election year.

Bev Perdue quit.

We do have to be diligent about what they can get up to with our ballots and election results but I feel that we have more to be concerned with in NC from the new Voter ID laws and other ways they can steal elections thanks to the changes of the Voter Rights Act. All of this has been happening in conjunction with Art Pope and Koch funds going to make people believe their lies and make NC a place we can hardly recognize politically. We went purple and they got scared of our abilities.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
19. It's the voting machines
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:59 AM
Mar 2016

Ignoring that the voting machines have caused so many republicans to be elected is the problem.

Until then there is no hope for NC,

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
20. There is always hope, Let's meet back here on November 9
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:14 AM
Mar 2016

And I'll bring election results. I'm guessing you'll just tell me voting machines Republicans elected no hope for NC.

By the way, if you know something about machines that flip votes in NC, I feel you should provide the evidence so we can get started on fixing that.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
27. I don't understand why you are letting Art Pope off the hook and laying all of this on
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:15 PM
Mar 2016

voting machines. The OP isn't "selling" anything, imho.
(DUers who haven't followed the shenanigans in NC politics in recent years might want to read up on Art Pope):
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Art_Pope

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
29. Art Pope loves the machines
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

The machines flip the votes just the way he wants.

People ask for proof of the votes being flipped while at the same time point out how the voters flipped from electing Democrats to now electing republicans.

And they sit there and tell me they are ignoring the possibility that the machines could be doing the flipping.

They come up with all kinds of excuses on why the voters flipped - like this Art Pope is why. As if Art Pope were the most important person in all of NC and the most powerful ever and he controls how people vote.

The machine's counts are not audited yet some of you sit there and tell me to have faith and trust the machines. Ain't gonna happen, I know too much and I know who owns the machines.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
7. You should post this in the North Carolina group too.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

I tried to (quite a while back) get some $$ going to Roy Cooper. Maybe you'll have better luck. NC needs to get rid of the Tealiban.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
12. Asking a serious question of all dems here
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

Why the hell can't we encourage dems to get out and vote? Voter apathy is at a low right now for both dems and repubs and I'm wondering why we can't get enough people to care about change to get out there and vote like every adult should want to do.

What will it take? Voting is a hell of a lot easier than armed revolution. It just seems like people would realize that if enough of us voted, we could enact real change now. We have the candidate who will fight for us. And either candidate is far better than the republicans regaining control of the white house, so what is wrong with people?

It is our lack of participation that allows the republicans to take over state and federal congress and legislature and start their regressive attacks on any progress we've made as a country.

Is there something lacking in our education process that does not instill this responsibility to vote in all our youth? I don't remember leaving high school with that feeling of my responsibility, so maybe that is what is lacking?

It just seems like we keep struggling with this process and we know that if dems showed up at the polls we would win most of the time.

What can we do (I mean other than what we've been doing up till now) to wake people up to the power they hold if only they would exercise it?

I'm so frustrated...not with our elected leaders, but with the people who just walk away as if they are not responsible for what is happening in this country.

SaveAmerica

(5,342 posts)
17. I agree with all you're saying and I wish I had the answer!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 12:14 AM
Mar 2016

I think a big part of it is education and I'm happy to say that I see that changing and more younger folks are active politically than they have been in the past. We just need to get everyone to be consistent with their voting.

It's pretty sad when a politically savvy person can time a campaign during an off presidential election season and win just by getting a couple thousand people to go vote for them.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
22. You might be asking the wrong questions.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
Mar 2016

What is wrong with voters?
What is wrong with our educational process?

and not: what is wrong with our party?

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
25. Getting Junior to come out as Trans would probably work.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:25 PM
Mar 2016

But thus far I belive only one former Winston Cup driver to have come out as Trans. is Terri O'connell. And I don't think most fans remember her by either Terri or J.T Hayes as she was known. On the bright side RTP has alot of us Northerners moving in with our Libural Views.

still_one

(92,330 posts)
26. I cannot believe this won't be taken to the courts
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016
https://acluofnorthcarolina.org/blog/pro-equality-groups-considering-legal-challenge-to-north-carolina-s-sweeping-anti-lgbt-law.html

I know that Disney and other companies are going to be pulling out unless this is overturned, and they will also lose Federal revenue because of this draconian legislation
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