Trump is even too much for some far-right populists; Farage criticized him for going too far. In France, the nutcase party is at present divided between the far-right fascist nutcases led by Le Pen pere, and the moderate fascist nutcases (OK, a bit of a contradiction in terms!) led by Le Pen fille. She has criticized Trump for going a bit too far, while her father has endorsed him.

really is pretty far out there. I had heard that Mr. Le Pen the Elder was more old school fascist but didn't know he supported Donald. Interesting that Ms. Le Pen the Younger (more media-savvy and a 'moderate fascist nutcase') thinks Trump goes a bit too far.

Thanks for the input.

Kasich wouldn't be a Christian Democrat; he is to the right of them. The other candidates would fit those categories.

of some US Democrats and certainly of ALL US Republicans, even though she may be considered "right" in view of German politics generally.

Please describe exactly how Hillary is to Merkel's right. Or please stop saying what you are saying.

There is a lot of variation between related parties in different countries in Europe, and often within the parties even in the same country.

Overall, and this is VERY approximate:

North and West Europaean Conservatives are mostly similar to moderate American Democrats, though ranging internally from very liberal Democrats to moderate-to-conservative Republicans.

East Europaean Conservatives are more like American Republicans.

British Conservatives come somewhere in between.

Politicians in Social Democratic parties in Europe range from people far to the left of Bernie Sanders, to people who are accidentally in these parties and might be moderate Republicans in America (and the British Labour Party contains ALL of this internally); but Bernie would be fairly typical of many. We may note, however, that Bernie's brother and nephew, who are local to me in Oxfordshire, are/were Councillors for the Green Party rather than the Labour Party.

they belong to different party groupings in the Europaean Parliament. Her party is in the Christian Democrat group which includes many mainstream Conservative parties from mostly Western and Northern Europe, while our Tories are in a smaller grouping along with the Conservatives of Poland and several other East Europaean countries and some smaller right-wing parties from Western Europe (though UKIP are in a different group, and the National Front types in yet another).

Thanks for the information.

These people do an analysis based on several factors to place politicians on the compass. As you can see, H. Clinton is to the right of A. Merkel.


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Here's the link:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Please describe exactly why you disagree with the Political Compass analysis or please stop saying what you are saying. LOL.

academic exercises instead of evaluating people based on their actual accomplishments in the real world, please continue along that path. This is exactly why you may have difficulty understanding why Hillary is winning the popular vote by some 2.5 million votes right now and will continue to win more.

As a matter of fact, Hillary Clinton is considered by many to be quite liberal. See, e.g., http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-05/is-hillary-clinton-a-progressive-depends-on-whos-asking

The DW-NOMINATE exercise does not take into account Hillary's actual lifelong contributions to the betterment of the most vulnerable, including minorities, both here and abroad when she was not serving in an elected office and long before being elected or appointed. Can you please cite anything comparable that Bernie has accomplished outside political office other than marching with MLK in the 1960s?

I am a US national who primarily resides in Europe (and in the real world). I will agree to disagree, both with you and with these comfy little charts.

What matters are facts, which you have not successfully refuted by posting a link to one Newsweek article. Your statement on the number of votes cast is irrelevant to the original discussion and a deflection.

I live in Germany half the time and my wife and family live there all the time so please don't play the "I'm in Europe so I know more about it" card. Your attempted insult ("real world&quot reflects on you, not me.

Sanders - Die Linke, or Die Gruenen depending in large part on which part of the country German Sanders would have been born.
Clinton-SPD

With the republicans it becomes more difficult because the republicans are more extremist. But broadly we could say.
Big business and chamber of commerce faction of the republicans - FDP
Religious and social conservative faction of the republicans -CDU

Here's the website of the liberal grouping in the EU parliament:

European liberal parties tend to be the smaller partner in a coalition government - sometimes with the left, sometimes the right.

He's a social conservative and an economic turbo-wingnut.

confuse you. The Sweden Democrats are far-right populists.

I think you are right that Kasich is way to conservative even for the Christian Democrats in Europe.

in which an outline of Birdie Sanders was tricked out in red, white and blue to be the progressive answer to the donkey and elephant.

It had blue with white stars at the top and red below, like the Dem and repuke logos.

So a multi-party system isn't a guarantee against electing a monster.

Also, none of those European systems require 270 convention delegates, a requirement that is required by our Constitution. So a multi-party system is just a pipe dream till we amend the Constitution.

OTOH, our own party contains a backstop against a candidate like Trump: this is what super delegates are for.