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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:21 PM Mar 2016

So who do you think DC Madame's lawyer wants to out? He says it affects the election.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-28/dc-madams-attorney-says-call-log-bombshell-could-upend-presidential-race

I have no idea who it is, but here are my own purely speculative thoughts on the possibilities:

Sanders - nothing there

Clinton - maybe the Big Dog, but I doubt it.

Trump - nope.

Cruz - sure seems like the kind of guy it could be.

Kasich - yeah. That's who my money's on.
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So who do you think DC Madame's lawyer wants to out? He says it affects the election. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 OP
Oh please Lord Jesus not Bill Clinton! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #1
I doubt it. I mean, not to be vulgar but... Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #3
Hopefully not but most likely it is cruz. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #6
How recent are these allegations supposed to be? Sadly, I do not think razorman Mar 2016 #12
The D.C. Madame case is from 2008. madaboutharry Mar 2016 #34
If Big Dog (or others) were out for some strange the need for privacy would almost certainly require Erose999 Mar 2016 #79
Except paying for it, can mean more secrecy. eom zalinda Mar 2016 #23
Yep. Wilms Mar 2016 #29
As Charlie Sheen says: jeff47 Mar 2016 #30
I wouldn't worry about it. peace13 Mar 2016 #7
I think it is highly unlikely, but still . . . . . Stinky The Clown Mar 2016 #9
After everything that Bill Clinton has endured CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #53
What if it was Hillary arranging to test him? jberryhill Mar 2016 #56
Google bill and Epstein. read the guardian version. bill does what he wants roguevalley Mar 2016 #60
While he has a history awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #65
It won't be - TBF Mar 2016 #86
Cruz. Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #2
Kasch most likely candidate Trenzalore Mar 2016 #4
He WAS in DC in 2003 Joanie Baloney Mar 2016 #13
Yep! It's Kasich (and probably Cruz too) Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #5
You may be right about Cruz. Ever since they broke the Lewinsky story, razorman Mar 2016 #10
I believe since they were successfully sued by Carol Burnett phylny Mar 2016 #87
Hell, it could be everyone on both sides. Washington, D.C. is a cesspool. razorman Mar 2016 #8
Is Kasich really a factor anymore?? Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #11
It could. The gambit on the gopper side is for Cruz and Kasich to morningfog Mar 2016 #31
that's what I'm wondering renate Mar 2016 #94
I think it is Trump. GreatCaesarsGhost Mar 2016 #14
Ryan, Kasich, Cruz. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #15
The lawyer DetroitSocialist83 Mar 2016 #16
It Can't Be Der Trumpenfuhrer AnnieBW Mar 2016 #17
Cruz would be my bet panader0 Mar 2016 #18
It would have to be someone who was in DC, or on the DC scene, since 1997 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #19
Sanders. Nobody cares about Kasich. Bernie has been in Washington a long time. n/t livetohike Mar 2016 #20
You need to cheer up a bit. And I have just the thing! Wilms Mar 2016 #32
Hillary. A woman can only take so much in such a toxic marriage (also, STDs). demmiblue Mar 2016 #36
that would blow his supporters minds. DesertFlower Mar 2016 #44
I have become very cynical in my later years. The list of livetohike Mar 2016 #74
So, what's he waiting for? January 20, 2017? nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #21
There's a gag order on him Joanie Baloney Mar 2016 #25
Ah. Thanks. nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #27
A few top GOP Senators have to be in the list. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #22
Heidi Cruz has gone MIA since Friday. grasswire Mar 2016 #24
that might be because of the picture. DesertFlower Mar 2016 #45
OH really? this I did not know. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #51
but tonight it was said that she will campaign later this week WITH Ted. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #54
wait....HILLARY????? Baclava Mar 2016 #26
Why do you believe it impossible for Hillary to have called her on the phone? jberryhill Mar 2016 #58
Calling for Bill to hook him up? Baclava Mar 2016 #62
Or calling for some other reason jberryhill Mar 2016 #70
I Don't Care Who It Is noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #28
It speaks to the integrity of the candidate. NobodyHere Mar 2016 #80
I don't agree noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #83
Then millions of human would be unemployed malaise Mar 2016 #89
Nice strawman you created there NobodyHere Mar 2016 #91
In 2008 we all thought John Edwards was a nice guy liberal N proud Mar 2016 #33
and elizabeth knew and still DesertFlower Mar 2016 #47
I'll wait. My limit of scandal has been surpassed. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #35
It isn't ever about the sex, madaboutharry Mar 2016 #37
Not Trump or Sanders. 840high Mar 2016 #38
Ted Cruz. I'd bet money on it. marble falls Mar 2016 #39
cruz! Marrah_G Mar 2016 #40
The obvious would be Cruz... Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #41
Conan just joked about *EIGHT* of CRUZ's flings. When did the new *THREE* surface?!1 n/t UTUSN Mar 2016 #42
Occam's razor: tavernier Mar 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author melman Mar 2016 #66
I agree about Kasich Blasphemer Mar 2016 #46
but Kasich is showing no signs of nervousness grasswire Mar 2016 #48
Did you see the town hall tonight with Kasich - he acted/talked like he Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2016 #50
Caffeine marions ghost Mar 2016 #73
Surely not Kasich He is the most boring, yokel, country bumpkin ever to run. Can't believe Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2016 #49
Kasich called up a hooker for a nice chat. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #57
My money is on Cruz. He's exactly the smarmy, sneaky COLGATE4 Mar 2016 #52
Hillary jberryhill Mar 2016 #55
In 2002 Bill was flying xloadiex Mar 2016 #59
My dream john is Shitty Mitch McConnell. He's affecting the election over the Supreme Court. Zen Democrat Mar 2016 #61
Cruz for the win flamingdem Mar 2016 #63
CRUZ MFM008 Mar 2016 #64
My money is on Cruz awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #67
I agree - Cruz womanofthehills Mar 2016 #81
My guess is it's all bullshit melman Mar 2016 #68
Why not Trump? Warpy Mar 2016 #69
Nothing else might derail this man's presidential aspirations: Orrex Mar 2016 #71
ha ha Vermin Supreme marions ghost Mar 2016 #75
maybe it's a female. n/t Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #72
... peacebird Mar 2016 #76
I never gave that a thought, B Calm Mar 2016 #77
he should out the entire list... lame54 Mar 2016 #78
It Can Only Be One Person IMO SDJay Mar 2016 #82
Your post has me cracking up here! PearliePoo2 Mar 2016 #90
nothing would surprise me but i think cruz restorefreedom Mar 2016 #84
Who would it affect? TBF Mar 2016 #85
Y'know men of a certain age.... Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2016 #88
I still have the original envelope, and disc, that Ms. Palfrey & her attorney sent out... Ghost in the Machine Mar 2016 #92
A Question NobodyHere Mar 2016 #93
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
3. I doubt it. I mean, not to be vulgar but...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:25 PM
Mar 2016

he doesn't seem like he'd have to pay if he wanted to cheat. And I am NOT implying he still does.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
12. How recent are these allegations supposed to be? Sadly, I do not think
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

former Pres. Clinton is capable anymore. His health is obviously failing. Also, not needing to pay does not necessarily mean a man would not patronize professionals, for whatever reason. (Charlie Sheen, for instance). Motivations are unpredictable.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
79. If Big Dog (or others) were out for some strange the need for privacy would almost certainly require
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

going to professionals.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. As Charlie Sheen says:
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016
I don't pay prostitutes for sex, I pay them to leave.


I doubt Sheen had any trouble finding women willing to sleep with him for free. He paid because he only wanted sex, not any sort of relationship to go along with that sex.
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
7. I wouldn't worry about it.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

History reads about as bad as it could get. What could possibly be worse?

Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
9. I think it is highly unlikely, but still . . . . .
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:31 PM
Mar 2016

Don't forget. The list is from 10 years ago.

Still, I don't think its him.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
53. After everything that Bill Clinton has endured
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:50 PM
Mar 2016

I can't imagine that it is him.

I don't think he'd pay for it. I don't think he'd make himself that vulnerable.

He bounces all over the world. If you wanted to cheat, there are much easier and less riskier ways to do it. And I'm not saying that he's doing it.

This just does not seem to be his style.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
56. What if it was Hillary arranging to test him?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

It is not unheard of for a spouse to hire a professional to test the loyalty of their partner.

Not unheard of at all.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
86. It won't be -
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:11 PM
Mar 2016

no one would be surprised, Hillary would just roll her eyes, and honestly I doubt he has to pay for it. If there were those kind of rumors we would have heard them long ago.

Joanie Baloney

(1,357 posts)
13. He WAS in DC in 2003
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:38 PM
Mar 2016

The case went to trial in 2007. It must have had current and past clients, maybe??

From Wikipedia:

Between 1999 and 2003, he was the Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, an Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice, and domestic policy advisor to George W. Bush on the 2000 George W. Bush presidential campaign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz

Too gross to imagine, but then again, he would be the one who would need to pay for human contact.

-JB

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
5. Yep! It's Kasich (and probably Cruz too)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:27 PM
Mar 2016

I think the Cruz thing makes sense in light of the recent National Inquirer story, additionally I read somewhere today his wife has been void of all public appearances since it happened. Good ole "Lyi'n Cruz".

As for Kasich, he's a grimy human being. Eighteen years in DC, he and the Madam probably had a thing together.

razorman

(1,644 posts)
10. You may be right about Cruz. Ever since they broke the Lewinsky story,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

the National Enquirer is no longer easily dismissed.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
87. I believe since they were successfully sued by Carol Burnett
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

they've been even more proactive about publishing things that are true or can be verified.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
31. It could. The gambit on the gopper side is for Cruz and Kasich to
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:15 PM
Mar 2016

to secure enough to delegates to block a first round trump nomination. To that end, Kasich still peels some delegates in the non winner take all states and if he can win just one or two fonts winner take all states, it could make the difference. Cruz and Kasich need to get about 415 delegates more to block a first round trump.

renate

(13,776 posts)
94. that's what I'm wondering
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:56 AM
Mar 2016

It could be that the lawyer thinks that something involving Bill Clinton matters any more, but it's not exactly news that he has transgressed.

Kasich doesn't really matter. And apparently the timeline says it's not Cruz. I may be biased but it sure doesn't seem in character for Bernie. So it might just be some boring old Bill Clinton stuff and the lawyer just wants his 15 minutes.

 

DetroitSocialist83

(169 posts)
16. The lawyer
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

Sounds like a bit of a kook. I wouldn't put much stock in this story. Of course I've been shocked before.

AnnieBW

(10,429 posts)
17. It Can't Be Der Trumpenfuhrer
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:42 PM
Mar 2016

I mean, everybody knows about his womanizing. That wouldn't blow the lid off of anything. Somehow, I don't think it was Bernie. He's too much of a mensch. Unless Bill got caught with a dead girl or a live boy, that's old news and wouldn't hurt Hillary's chances. So, it's either Kasich or Cruz. My money is on Cruz.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. It would have to be someone who was in DC, or on the DC scene, since 1997 ...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:45 PM
Mar 2016

So that pretty much counts Kasich out.

Sanders was there; but, I just can't see it.

The Big Dog didn't need an escort service and, I doubt a seating President would need to call one from a cell phone that would be about to be linked to him.

I don't think Trump calling a escort service would effect his run ... Hell, given his base ... it would no doubt give him a bump.

That leaves Cruz ... who was in DC/on the DC scene at the time, and would be most hurt by it.

But then, I can't even imagine the wife of a seating President getting caught up ... But that would be a game changer.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
44. that would blow his supporters minds.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:32 PM
Mar 2016

they think he's a saint. i hope it's not him. he does seem like a nice guy. he and jane have been married 27 years, but you never know.

livetohike

(22,145 posts)
74. I have become very cynical in my later years. The list of
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:58 AM
Mar 2016

icons that one would never expect anything immoral is growing long. As a shopkeeper in Mexico once told me, " Only Jesus is perfect.".

Joanie Baloney

(1,357 posts)
25. There's a gag order on him
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:08 PM
Mar 2016

The DC Madam died in 2008 (I think) and he is the custodian of the files, but a judge put a gag on them. He has asked court to court but says they must be released prior to the conventions. Now he has petitioned the SCOTUS to let him release them or he will do it himself.

-JB

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
24. Heidi Cruz has gone MIA since Friday.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:57 PM
Mar 2016

She cancelled her events this week and hasn't tweeted since then.

FWIW

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
70. Or calling for some other reason
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:07 AM
Mar 2016

I would imagine that the telephone was used the same way every other telephone was used, and not solely for the purpose of arranging appointments.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
28. I Don't Care Who It Is
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

their sex life is their own personal business unless they are hurting others. If they aren't hurting anyone I don't care.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
80. It speaks to the integrity of the candidate.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:18 AM
Mar 2016

If someone is willing to cheat on their spouse I'm not sure I'd want him/her to run the nation.

If it's an open relationship however...

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
83. I don't agree
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

I think it only speaks about their relationship with their spouse. Are there some people who cheat on their spouse who would be awful leaders? Yes. But that does not mean every person who cheats on their spouse is an awful leader.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
33. In 2008 we all thought John Edwards was a nice guy
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:17 PM
Mar 2016

Just saying, don't think your candidate is an angel . They are in politics after all.

If you are to the point of thinking some one is infallible, then you have lost your ability to clearly judge their character.

madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
37. It isn't ever about the sex,
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:27 PM
Mar 2016

It's about the hypocrisy. So these scandals always hurt the "family values republicans" and "I love God" crowd the most

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
41. The obvious would be Cruz...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:18 PM
Mar 2016

because of recent BS from the Enquirer. Rachel didn't speculate when she discussed it.

Response to tavernier (Reply #43)

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
46. I agree about Kasich
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

Cruz is the other possibility. Sanders isn't the type and he wouldn't have run if he had any skeletons like that in his closet. I don't think Trump is a paying for sex kind of guy and even if he were, no one would care. The man is an adulterer who has talked about his daughter's hotness and he still leads the GOP race. Clinton would have cooled his jets around the time that this stuff was going on so I don't think it's him. Plus, the Clinton sex narrative has been played out. No one wants to hear about that anymore. In Kasich's case, it could explain the hesitancy of anyone in the GOP to truly embrace him. He's saying he will be the guy coming out of a brokered convention but no one in the GOP seems to be rallying around him, and they never have. It could be that they know he is damaged goods.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
48. but Kasich is showing no signs of nervousness
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:37 PM
Mar 2016

He talks today about being the go-to guy on the second ballot at the convention.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
50. Did you see the town hall tonight with Kasich - he acted/talked like he
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

was on serious drugs. Jittery and non-coherent. There should definitely be a "take a shot" game for each time he says "Ohio."

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
49. Surely not Kasich He is the most boring, yokel, country bumpkin ever to run. Can't believe
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:42 PM
Mar 2016

he would even have sex. period. Gotta be either Trump or Craz.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
52. My money is on Cruz. He's exactly the smarmy, sneaky
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:49 PM
Mar 2016

Bible-thumping type who cats around with call girls while dressed in diapers.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
55. Hillary
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

It's Washington. It could be anyone, including Hillary.

These are phone records we are talking about. These are not necessarily even related to service transactions.

Is it impossible that the DC Madam could have been communicating with Hillary for some reason?

This was a very well connected woman.

Frankly, no man in the race would be a surprise.

xloadiex

(628 posts)
59. In 2002 Bill was flying
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:09 AM
Mar 2016

around in Jeffery Epstein's Lolita Express and taking trips to his private island in the Caribbean.

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
69. Why not Trump?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:55 AM
Mar 2016

It was some years ago and we all know he thinks of women the way he thinks of cars, trading them in on spiffy new models every few years while test driving other models all the time. He'd want discretion and Madams with ultra high priced call girls would provide it.

The only reason it's not likely Sanders is that he'd use a more reasonably priced escort service if he needed companionship for a night.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
71. Nothing else might derail this man's presidential aspirations:
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:10 AM
Mar 2016


Amusingly, since I couldn't remember his name, I Googled "boot head guy" and he popped up immediately.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
82. It Can Only Be One Person IMO
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

Trump - No one would care. Everyone knows he's a freaking pig and news that he hired hookers would not affect the election at all.
Kasich - Outing him wouldn't affect the election. He's not winning anyway.
Sanders - That'd be a stunner.
HRC - Now THAT would be a stunner.
Cruz - Fits the profile - holier than thou bullcrap spewing out of his cakehole constantly, smarmy and obviously a hypocrite. In fact, I think he's got closeted gay man written all over him.

Maybe that's it, since we're just speculating anyway - it's Cruz and he wanted the company of men. I can't think of anything more delicious than that, and it would certainly affect the election. We know how the repukes feel about those icky gay folks.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
90. Your post has me cracking up here!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:08 PM
Mar 2016

Remember, the Enquirer article about icky Ted mentioned "hooker" , so yeah my money is on the creepy, weasel Ted. And I agree, he could go either way, boy or girl. Hillary would indeed be a stunner, either boy or girl. I can't imagine it, but I've been clueless many times before!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
84. nothing would surprise me but i think cruz
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:53 PM
Mar 2016

this story coming out on the heels of the enquirer story smells like a cruz revelation

TBF

(32,067 posts)
85. Who would it affect?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:07 PM
Mar 2016

Trump's supporters wouldn't care

Sanders I really doubt

Hillary would be news for sure (it's definitely not news if it's Bill)

Kasich is he still in the race?

Cruz seems the most likely and his religious base wouldn't like it

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
92. I still have the original envelope, and disc, that Ms. Palfrey & her attorney sent out...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 03:04 AM
Mar 2016

It might be time to look back into it some more, though I no longer have the "Net Detective" software that allowed me to look up names via phone numbers and/or addresses...

We know that "Diaper Dave" Vitter was on there... I would bet money, if I had it, that it's either Cruz or Trump... or quite possibly BOTH!

Peace,

Ghost

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