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Non Sequitur today definitely hits some people here today. (Original Post) hobbit709 Mar 2016 OP
Bwahahaha! hereforthevoting Mar 2016 #1
SCE, where are you? lastlib Mar 2016 #2
Chuckles cantbeserious Mar 2016 #3
A cat in the hand is worth how much? Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #4
Two in a box. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #46
According to Schrodinger that's a net of one cat..... So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #75
Snort Newkularblue Mar 2016 #5
Perfect depiction of the BoBs. baldguy Mar 2016 #6
the constantly changing position group is the one that demands loyalty oaths. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #7
A loyalty oath is a demand for support under threat of punishment. baldguy Mar 2016 #9
Pure BS. KPN Mar 2016 #10
But only the BoBs are loud enough & obnoxious enough to have a self-selected label. baldguy Mar 2016 #14
shouldn't we all get loud and angry retrowire Mar 2016 #17
How do we fix the voting problems in America? By being sure to elect staunch Democrats in all level baldguy Mar 2016 #21
right, the only democratic candidate who retrowire Mar 2016 #30
Who knows it's a problem CREATED BY REPUBLICANS. baldguy Mar 2016 #32
sooo why isn't she speaking out about it? nt retrowire Mar 2016 #34
She needs all the "help" she can get. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #73
she is damnded if she does, damned if she does not Skittles Mar 2016 #80
Not true. retrowire Mar 2016 #81
YES, TRUE Skittles Mar 2016 #82
No not really, created a long time ago by conservatives. Both conservative Democrats and Republicans LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #62
Thank you for posting Lee Atwater's old RW slander against Democrats. baldguy Mar 2016 #92
childish? is that what the Arizona voters are being? Pat Riots Mar 2016 #19
I think that's nonsense Wibly Mar 2016 #87
Gee, I wonder which group it was that had a concerted effort to ban DUers who disagreed with them? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #12
Bernie supporters. baldguy Mar 2016 #15
You serious? retrowire Mar 2016 #16
Clinton supporters don't drag out 30 yr old RW lies to attack Sanders, and pretend like it's news. baldguy Mar 2016 #22
Guess you should have supported a better candidate . Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #25
I did. baldguy Mar 2016 #27
LOL....! Yes the one that will have the US up on a fire sale, within weeks of her swearing in. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #29
lol PatrynXX Mar 2016 #76
By the numbers eridani Mar 2016 #83
Oh really. Who started a separate site and then hid the contents when it became public? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #23
Nothing like the unearthly screech from Bernie supporters on finding an unbeliever in their midst. baldguy Mar 2016 #38
A question for you? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #39
Right back at you. baldguy Mar 2016 #41
nice maturity level you got there retrowire Mar 2016 #43
How many anti-Clinton disputers has the Hillary Group **HAD** to block? baldguy Mar 2016 #44
correlation does not imply causation. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #47
But causation usually results in correlation. baldguy Mar 2016 #50
Baloney Lazy Daisy Mar 2016 #78
"immature losers" How did you stay in? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #49
What do you call people who can't stand to see others engage in a civil, supportive discussion? baldguy Mar 2016 #52
I agree. I thought your label describes yourself perfectly. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #54
they didn't HAVE to block me Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author baldguy Mar 2016 #37
Bernie supporters all the way.... stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #63
I didn't know the host of your group is a secret Bernie supporter hobbit709 Mar 2016 #64
when you say my group, stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #65
Here's a hint. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #66
Bernie Logic. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #67
Hillary Denial. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #68
look up some of your trolls post and look at the replies. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #69
What troll you talking about? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #70
The clinton group got rid of me before I even knew what was happening! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #72
The Sanders group banned me. shenmue Mar 2016 #88
I vote for the canidate that is not the corrupt corporate shill. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #24
And you're perfectly happy to believe RW propaganda. baldguy Mar 2016 #26
Yes, all the scandals all the unsavory backroom deals. Yes, it's all RW propaganda. I have a bridge Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #28
Pay attention: All of the "Clinton scandals" are RW propaganda. Always have been. baldguy Mar 2016 #31
Lol...Clinton supporters are some of the most willfully ignorant people Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #35
You bring up two bullshit GOP-created "scandals" - and say Clinton supporters are willfully ignorant baldguy Mar 2016 #40
I could put out dozens of links from Non RW sources. Would it matter? No, You wouldnt care Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #42
One link sourced from the VRWC is still sourced from the VRWC. baldguy Mar 2016 #45
Still bathering? See #45 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #48
You can't refute, so resort to ad hominem. baldguy Mar 2016 #53
Not at all, I just understand the level of intelligence I am dealing with. See #45 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #55
they could use a bridge retrowire Mar 2016 #33
Agree! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #36
"I have a bridge I can sell you" BeanMusical Mar 2016 #86
Right wingers want single payer health care? Who knew? n/t eridani Mar 2016 #85
Hillary came out against single pay so she is keeping up with RWers Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #89
We won't make a candidate lose so long as they are appealing to us. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #61
A candidate needs to earn my vote All in it together Mar 2016 #84
Such a lot of whining. Nitram Mar 2016 #8
"Such a lot of whining." Indeed. It's like we can't take you anywhere. Bubzer Mar 2016 #13
I almost spat out my coffee meow2u3 Mar 2016 #11
Hehehehheehe malaise Mar 2016 #18
Great cartoon Gothmog Mar 2016 #20
Excellent! nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #51
Oh look! Superdelegates! Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #56
... SoapBox Mar 2016 #60
Wiley, thank you. nt Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #58
Bingo! SoapBox Mar 2016 #59
Are we to infer from this cartoon... Orrex Mar 2016 #71
Preening is good for the ego. (nt) So Far From Heaven Mar 2016 #77
I think the local inference is... Android3.14 Mar 2016 #90
Yes, I'm sure that there are many here who will help the Republican candidate Orrex Mar 2016 #91
I never said Hillary was a Republican Android3.14 Mar 2016 #93
Meh. Orrex Mar 2016 #94
I have 153 million reasons not to vote for Clinton. ish of the hammer Mar 2016 #74
Hmm. I thought the loyalty oath thing was a DU sickness. Guess it merrily Mar 2016 #79
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
9. A loyalty oath is a demand for support under threat of punishment.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:30 AM
Mar 2016

There's one group saying "we will support the Democratic nominee, no matter who it is". There's another saying "we'll make the Democratic nominee lose if it's not our candidate".

Which group is demanding a loyalty oath?

KPN

(15,646 posts)
10. Pure BS.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:02 AM
Mar 2016

Any candidate has to engender sufficient votes in order to be elected. Many Bernie supporters will vote for whoever wins the nomination at GE time. Some, perhaps many won't because they don't want to support status quo. Those are both legitimate views. If Dems lose the election it will be because the candidate failed to inspire sufficient votes -- or the GOP stole the election again or both.

But this is all premature. Let's see who wins the nomination first and then go from there. Bernie supporters want their primary vote counted first. That is reasonable and rightful.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
14. But only the BoBs are loud enough & obnoxious enough to have a self-selected label.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie supporters want their primary vote counted first - and they'll attack anyone who supports Clinton and threaten the future of the Democratic Party if they don't get their way.

Bernie supporters want their primary vote counted - and will have a childish temper tantrum, accusing the Clinton camp of dirty tricks, voter suppression, or just general corruption when Sanders looses.

Bernie supporters want their primary vote counted - and some will happily vote for Trump to make sure Clinton doesn't win.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
17. shouldn't we all get loud and angry
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:24 AM
Mar 2016

if ANYONES primary vote isn't counted?

or do you only care about votes for your preferred candidates?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
21. How do we fix the voting problems in America? By being sure to elect staunch Democrats in all level
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:29 AM
Mar 2016

By being sure to elect staunch Democrats in all levels of govt to change the rules & enact legislation to do it.

Staunch Democrats like Hillary Clinton.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
81. Not true.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:11 PM
Mar 2016

People are more intelligent than you think. To me, it would have saved face for her to claim a victory BUT STILL QUESTION THE RESULTS.

A winner questioning the results of the game they won? Do you know how much integrity that would show?

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
62. No not really, created a long time ago by conservatives. Both conservative Democrats and Republicans
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:47 PM
Mar 2016

are responsible.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
92. Thank you for posting Lee Atwater's old RW slander against Democrats.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:49 AM
Mar 2016

Nader's use of it killed it for a time, but like a zombie or a vampire, ill-informed people keep bringing it back from the dead.

Pat Riots

(76 posts)
19. childish? is that what the Arizona voters are being?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:26 AM
Mar 2016

tantrums? really?

lt is almost as if you think Bernie supporters are little children.

well, this Bernie supporter and longtime Democrat is disgusted with the corruption in the Democratic party. it is my view that we will never advance in this country with a Third Way Centrist president, and if Hillary wins we will lose Congress in 18 and badly. I dint want Trump to win, but we would do much much better in 18 and 2020 running in opposition than having a highly unpopular Dem incumbant. i also am tired of the Democratic party treating its left flank as toxic (because MCGovern, smh) or as unruly children. which you just did.

i am 49 years old. i am not going wait anymore for the Democratic party to stop drifting right. any action i take or refuse to take will be to pull the Democratic party to the left. this is a long term project which requires looking past a single election. sorry if that offends you.

anyway, I think Bernie is gonna win.

Wibly

(613 posts)
87. I think that's nonsense
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 02:47 AM
Mar 2016

The only people having "trantrums" are the Clinton supporters who are accusing Sanders of being negative, accusing Sanders supporters of being somehow non Democratic Party supporters, and who, when caught doing dirty tricks, claim Sanders supporters are playing foul by accusing them of dirty tricks.
I can tell you one thing clearly, if Hillary Clinton loses it will be because she did not inspire the people, was not thoroughly honest with the people, and let her supporters engage in hatchet jobs like the one you have posted here.

From personal experience, its clear the Clinton campaign is scared, so scared, if you go on any of their social media sites and so much as ask the wrong question, like: How can Clinton stand up to banks when she's taking millions in campaign money from them?, you get booted.

I know of no Sanders supporter who would ever vote Trump for any reason, let alone be so petty as to do it just to stop Clinton.
Perhaps the Clinton supporters think the Sanders supporters would do that because that is where their heads are at. They would be that petty, so they think others would be too.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
12. Gee, I wonder which group it was that had a concerted effort to ban DUers who disagreed with them?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:08 AM
Mar 2016

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
16. You serious?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:22 AM
Mar 2016

Hillary group has over 700 members banned from their group while Bernie's group has what? around 200?

And Bernie supporters are the member hunting predators who grave dance with insulting signatures when people are banned?

Bernie supporters made sites like jackass radicals?

nope. all Hillary supporters. :/

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
22. Clinton supporters don't drag out 30 yr old RW lies to attack Sanders, and pretend like it's news.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:34 AM
Mar 2016

Clinton supporters don't insist on implementing & maintain a double standard on what private records should be made public.

Clinton supporters don't threaten to make sure the GOP wins if their candidate doesn't get nominated.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
29. LOL....! Yes the one that will have the US up on a fire sale, within weeks of her swearing in.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

We will look like Greece after she's done.


She is the better candidate....for the 1%.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
83. By the numbers
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:53 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders group
Number of subscribers: 989
Number of people trashing: 173
Number banned: 320
Ratio of subscribers to banned: 3.09

Clinton group
Number of subscribers: 380
Number of people trashing: 346
Number banned: 768
Ratio of subscribers to banned: 0.49
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
38. Nothing like the unearthly screech from Bernie supporters on finding an unbeliever in their midst.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016
 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
41. Right back at you.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:50 AM
Mar 2016

Who's the bigger threat? Hillary?

"On her worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and President than the Republican candidate on his best day," - Bernie Sanders


Or the Republicans?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
43. nice maturity level you got there
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:09 AM
Mar 2016

how many non believers have the Hillary group blocked? over 700?

hmmm...

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
44. How many anti-Clinton disputers has the Hillary Group **HAD** to block?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

It says right on the label: "This is a group, not a forum. Groups often serve as safe havens for members who share similar interests and viewpoints. Individuals who post messages contrary to a particular group's stated purpose can be excluded from posting in that group."

The greater number blocked indicates a larger number of immature losers attempting to disrupt the group, doesn't it?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
50. But causation usually results in correlation.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

Disputers aren't allowed in groups, therefor they get blocked.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
78. Baloney
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

If you were to look at why some were blocked, it's shameful. I never said a damned thing negative about Hillary in the Hillary group. Not one. I did question why Hillary supporters were shaming someone they knew nothing about.

So don't come at us with "you deserved to be banned" horse hooey.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
52. What do you call people who can't stand to see others engage in a civil, supportive discussion?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:33 PM
Mar 2016

The label is appropriate.

Response to hobbit709 (Reply #12)

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
64. I didn't know the host of your group is a secret Bernie supporter
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:53 PM
Mar 2016

And you damned well know what site I'm talking about.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
28. Yes, all the scandals all the unsavory backroom deals. Yes, it's all RW propaganda. I have a bridge
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:17 AM
Mar 2016

I can sell you too.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
31. Pay attention: All of the "Clinton scandals" are RW propaganda. Always have been.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:22 AM
Mar 2016

And Sanders supports believe them without question.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
35. Lol...Clinton supporters are some of the most willfully ignorant people
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:33 AM
Mar 2016

Almost Trumpish in their cult like devotion.

Anything that messes with their saviors image is RW propaganda.

"From Whitewater to Benghazi: A Clinton-Scandal Primer"

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
40. You bring up two bullshit GOP-created "scandals" - and say Clinton supporters are willfully ignorant
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

You didn't even read the story in your link:

Just how serious is the FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails? Since the bureau doesn’t like to speak about it publicly, people have to judge from outside signs—for example, how many agents are working on the case. So when The Washington Post reported this week than there were 147 FBI investigators looking into whether any crimes were committed in the handling of classified material on Clinton’s private email server, and whether that server was hacked, it was a bombshell. Republicans exulted and Democrats felt a rising nausea. The story swept across cable TV and the web.

Except it turns out maybe that wasn’t the case. The FBI now says there are fewer than 50 agents working the case, though it won’t say how many, and the Post corrected its article. It’s yet another case of confusion and fog of war in a story that involves a scandal-plagued political dynasty, partisan intrigue, the intelligence community, the FBI, the vagaries of federal email rules and national-security law, and the obscure world of cybersecurity. Something went wrong here—Clinton has apologized for using the server—but whether any crime was committed remains hazy, subject to interpretations filtered through a partisan lens and leaks from an investigation that remains largely under wraps.

...

No other American politicians—even ones as corrupt as Richard Nixon, or as hated by partisans as George W. Bush—have fostered the creation of a permanent multimillion-dollar cottage industry devoted to attacking them.
 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
42. I could put out dozens of links from Non RW sources. Would it matter? No, You wouldnt care
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

one way or the other.

So why should go to the trouble of providing proof?

I have no plans to convince you.

You already worship your corporate goddess.



 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
45. One link sourced from the VRWC is still sourced from the VRWC.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:30 AM
Mar 2016

Like the bullshit "147 FBI agents" story. One guy at the WP was tipped off by one anonymous source - most likely a RW operative - of the bogus number, and the next day there were literally hundreds of "news stories" quoting it, without verifying it, or any attempt to confirm it. They just repeated the lie without question.

Such is the state of American journalism.

And of course these various false stories were linked to thousands of times by the people eager & happy to be lied to, and gleefully salivating for such "news" - RWers, other Clinton haters, and Sanders supporters.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
61. We won't make a candidate lose so long as they are appealing to us.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

Candidates make themselves lose. My vote is mine to give to the most deserving candidate. End of story. Spend your vote as you see fit.

All in it together

(275 posts)
84. A candidate needs to earn my vote
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

Just having a D behind there names may not be enough. I'm tired of waiting for candidates to push the positions they campaigned on.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
71. Are we to infer from this cartoon...
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

that supporters of a certain candidate sit around licking their own assholes?

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
90. I think the local inference is...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:55 AM
Mar 2016

That supporters of a certain candidate, with their banal and blind expectation that everyone will line up like fellow robots to vote for that candidate, are hilariously wrong.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
91. Yes, I'm sure that there are many here who will help the Republican candidate
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:09 AM
Mar 2016

Maybe that's where the cats-licking-their-assholes imagery comes in.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
93. I never said Hillary was a Republican
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

But yes, she has many helpers. They don't know why they are helping her, they get a little defensive when people point to the evidence that she serves corporations first and people second, and the need for them to make personal insults is an unfortunate character flaw shared by far too many of them.

Karma's a funny thing. I predict that someday you will recall this little exchange in which you dehumanized a group of people for petty satisfaction.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
94. Meh.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

I've been attacked as a Republican, a Third-Wayer, a corporatist, a shill, and many others. I've been told that I'm bitter, that I'm resentful, that I'm a dinosaur, and that I'm afraid. All of it bullshit

And all of it because I've dared to question the obvious divinity of Senator Sanders as the obvious and only possible choice for President. And before you cry foul about "divinity," I'd remind you of the messianic imagery, the saintly imagery, and the gospel ditties all trotted out in worship of The Man.

So spare the bullshit about "dehumanizing," because that's one race in which Sanders' cheerleaders have a tremendous lead. They started earlier, they hit harder, and when someone is rightly called out for it, a chorus of others pipe right up to cry "The Purge Has Begun!"

merrily

(45,251 posts)
79. Hmm. I thought the loyalty oath thing was a DU sickness. Guess it
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:43 PM
Mar 2016

must have started elsewhere and been much more widespread.

Fish. Head. Down. Stinks.

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