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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:26 PM Mar 2016

Donald Trump Endorses "Some Form of Punishment" for Women Who Get Abortions

From the GOP Frontrunner who says that no one respects women more than he does....

Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump on Wednesday said he supports criminal action against women who obtain abortions, staking out his hardest line yet against reproductive freedom.

In comments to MSNBC's Chris Matthews set to air later on Wednesday, Trump reiterated his opposition to abortion rights, advocating for a ban on the procedure.

If abortion were illegal, Trump said, "there has to be some form of punishment" for women who undergo the procedure. But the candidate would not specify what punishment he favored, saying that would "have to be determined."

"They've set the law and frankly the judges, you're going to have a very big election coming up for that reason because you have judges where it's a real tipping point and with the loss of Scalia, who was a very strong conservative, this presidential election is going to be very important," Trump said, referring to the Supreme Court vacancy left by the death of anti-abortion rights Justice Antonin Scalia.

http://mic.com/articles/139404/donald-trump-endorses-some-form-of-punishment-for-women-who-get-abortions#.YTj5SkRMS
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Donald Trump Endorses "Some Form of Punishment" for Women Who Get Abortions (Original Post) DesertRat Mar 2016 OP
the video ... napkinz Mar 2016 #1
Thanks DesertRat Mar 2016 #2
Donald Trump: "Nobody Respects Women More Than I Do" napkinz Mar 2016 #25
Oh Man, he looks REALLY uncomfortable there! PearliePoo2 Mar 2016 #19
now they're "not letting him get away with it" napkinz Mar 2016 #38
Give this jerk, Donald Trump, the bums rush out the exit door. In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #3
John Fugelsang's tweet DesertRat Mar 2016 #5
Donald must get his jollies thinking of ways to punish women. In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #11
He's for punishing women for abortions outside the criteria HRC would compromise on. Wilms Mar 2016 #4
When HRC is president DesertRat Mar 2016 #6
IF HRC is president, she will. Wilms Mar 2016 #10
Will they NEVER get that making it illegal doesn't STOP it? annabanana Mar 2016 #7
They don't care about women OR babies DesertRat Mar 2016 #8
Only poor women central scrutinizer Mar 2016 #31
Very true nt DesertRat Mar 2016 #43
He deserves some form of punishment 2naSalit Mar 2016 #9
I was gonna say...! A HERETIC I AM Mar 2016 #12
I am on board for that too. 2naSalit Mar 2016 #14
I would wager he's paid for a whole bunch of abortions in his past. bullwinkle428 Mar 2016 #13
I doubt he ever gives that much 2naSalit Mar 2016 #15
How totally fluid is Trump? Here he is with Russert in 1999 when he was running the first time. braddy Mar 2016 #16
I hope these old clips come back to haunt him nt DesertRat Mar 2016 #45
article title is incorrect, as usual restorefreedom Mar 2016 #17
He said abortions should be banned and women should then be punished for having them. morningfog Mar 2016 #20
Here are the quotes from the interview B2G Mar 2016 #22
Yep: morningfog Mar 2016 #23
my guess is he is playing prolife for the camera restorefreedom Mar 2016 #27
If he says it, it's reasonable to believe that's what he actually thinks gollygee Mar 2016 #29
in either case, he is not going to be able to change it. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #33
Don't underestimate the power of the SCOTUS. Nt gollygee Mar 2016 #34
you really think they will overturn a forty year old precedent? restorefreedom Mar 2016 #35
They are doing a very good job ripping away abortion rights without getting rid of RvW. gollygee Mar 2016 #36
then more attention must be paid to local and state elections. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #37
SCOTUS too gollygee Mar 2016 #39
yes scotus is important restorefreedom Mar 2016 #41
OFFS. Everything isn't about Bernie. nolabear Mar 2016 #21
lol. i did not say EVERYTHING was. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #26
Well, it would be intellectually consistent. jeff47 Mar 2016 #18
Imo, and this is the real danger, he's just fishing around because he knows nothing about it. nolabear Mar 2016 #24
I completely agree. nt DesertRat Mar 2016 #46
Pilloried or public flogging? nt procon Mar 2016 #28
"waterboarding and 'a hell of a lot worse'" napkinz Mar 2016 #32
Punishment for abortion DesertRat Mar 2016 #47
Shameless pandering, he doesn't believe a word coming out of his mouth. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #30
... napkinz Mar 2016 #40
Isn't that the truth!! DesertRat Mar 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Mar 2016 #42
I've considered that too DesertRat Mar 2016 #49
this could be his "Romney 47%" come November ... napkinz Mar 2016 #44
If anti-choice crowd gets their way and make abortion illegal, there will be a lot of women B Calm Mar 2016 #50
With him as president, they'll already be punished! scscholar Mar 2016 #51

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
19. Oh Man, he looks REALLY uncomfortable there!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016

Turning red, stammering, fidgety, at a loss for words.
He's not used to being put on the spot and not able to bullshit his way out of it. Mathews wasn't letting him get away with it...kept pressing.
Jeeesh Donald, as if women don't hate your misogynist guts enough already.
You've just stepped in it big time, you asshole.


DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
5. John Fugelsang's tweet
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016
John Fugelsang ?@JohnFugelsang
Donald Trump says when he's POTUS women will be punished for having abortions.
But they'll already be punished, b/c Trump will be POTUS.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
11. Donald must get his jollies thinking of ways to punish women.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/03/trump-wants-outlaw-abortion-and-punish-women-who-still-get-them

Donald Trump said Wednesday that he wants to ban abortions, and that women who get abortions illegally should be punished.

At a taping of an MSNBC town hall that will air later, host Chris Matthews pressed the Republican presidential front-runner Trump for his thoughts on abortion policy. Trump said he's in favor of an abortion ban, explaining, "Well, you go back to a position like they had where they would perhaps go to illegal places, but we have to ban it," according to a partial transcript from Bloomberg Politics.

Matthews asked if there would be a punishment for women who received abortions if they were made illegal. Trump responded, "There has to be some form of punishment." He elaborated that the punishment would have "to be determined" and the law will depend on the upcoming Supreme Court confirmation battle and the 2016 election.
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
4. He's for punishing women for abortions outside the criteria HRC would compromise on.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

You see what Hillary opens up.

Hillary: I could compromise on abortion if it included exceptions for mother's health

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511552065

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
9. He deserves some form of punishment
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:38 PM
Mar 2016

for wasting so much good air that should be put to better use by endangered species.


A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
12. I was gonna say...!
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

"In other news, A HERETIC I AM suggests 'some form of punishment' for people so stupid as to think he would make a good president"

2naSalit

(86,647 posts)
14. I am on board for that too.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:54 PM
Mar 2016

I think there should be a political literacy test for voters and candidates for a few years until we rid our country of the civil ignorance so rampant today.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
13. I would wager he's paid for a whole bunch of abortions in his past.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

"DON'T WORRY, BABY - I HAVE WONDERFUL MAGICAL SPERM! BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL SPERM! SPERM WITH THE YOOOOGEST BRAINS - THEY KNOW WHERE TO GO, AND WHERE NOT TO GO!"

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
16. How totally fluid is Trump? Here he is with Russert in 1999 when he was running the first time.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

Trump was giving a presidential try for the Reform party in 1999.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
17. article title is incorrect, as usual
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:43 PM
Mar 2016

trying to lead the public. he said there should be some form if punishment in a case where abortion has been outlawed, not as it is today.

abortion will always be legal. roe is not going to be overturned.

more bs from the #nevertrump crowd. clearly the uniparty establishment is trying new memes to get trump out.

same thing we are seeing on the left with the new lies about bernie.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
20. He said abortions should be banned and women should then be punished for having them.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

You are defending this?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
23. Yep:
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:53 PM
Mar 2016
"...we have to ban it,” Trump said.

Matthews then pressed Trump on whether he believes there should be punishment for abortion if it were illegal
“There has to be some form of punishment,” Trump said. “For the woman?” Matthews asked. “Yeah,” Trump said, nodding.
Trump said the punishment would “have to be determined.”

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
27. my guess is he is playing prolife for the camera
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

he has been prochoice for most of his life. pandering is my guess.

but as to the quote, i just wanted to be clear that he is not suggesting we start going to clinics with paddywagons. he said in the event it became illegal, there needs to be punishment. i am not defending that statement but it needs to be understood that he is not suggesting NOW that women be sent to prison. he says enough on his own, the press does not need to embellish.

and what is more, it will never come to be. roe is staying.


gollygee

(22,336 posts)
29. If he says it, it's reasonable to believe that's what he actually thinks
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:16 PM
Mar 2016

I am a woman and I have daughters. I would not personally be willing to risk assuming he "doesn't really mean it."

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
35. you really think they will overturn a forty year old precedent?
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

maybe i have rose glasses on, but i cant see that happening.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
36. They are doing a very good job ripping away abortion rights without getting rid of RvW.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:48 PM
Mar 2016

And the SCOTUS has helped with that. There is lots they have done and can do.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
37. then more attention must be paid to local and state elections.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

the state legislatures seem to be the ones making most of these changes.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
41. yes scotus is important
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 08:22 PM
Mar 2016

and the states.

the bc thing always gets me. i mean, some people are against abortion, i can see that. but if they REALLY want no more abortions, they should be advocating for free and safe bc for anyone who wants it. then abortions truly could be reserved for emergency circumstances to save someones life. at least for the most part.

stupid stupid people.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
26. lol. i did not say EVERYTHING was.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

but in this case, it does seem to be an effort to sandbag trump

(and yes, it is happening on both sides)

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
18. Well, it would be intellectually consistent.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:46 PM
Mar 2016

If you actually believe abortion is murder, it is rather weird to do nothing to the woman who arranged for and paid for the "murder".

"Only punish the doctors" comes from the "women aren't real people" side of the conservative movement.

nolabear

(41,987 posts)
24. Imo, and this is the real danger, he's just fishing around because he knows nothing about it.
Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

He doesn't have an opinion. He doesn't have a stand. Chris Matthews gets on my last nerve, but I'll give him a lot of credit for not letting Trump maneuver his way out of it. When he got trapped into actually giving an answer he showed his absolute ignorance of what the (admittedly absurd, so I'm enjoying that being pointed out as well) GOP and Right to Life movement's stand on the issue is. His tap-dancing just might run out on him. LORD I hope so.

Response to DesertRat (Original post)

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
49. I've considered that too
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

I've never had the feeling that he really wants the JOB of president, but he loves all the attention he's getting campaigning for it.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
50. If anti-choice crowd gets their way and make abortion illegal, there will be a lot of women
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

being arrested. The anti-choice crowd knows this and want women punished, but pretend like that's not what their after.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
51. With him as president, they'll already be punished!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

Just as we were already punished for letting some man talk us into doing something we don't want to do.

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