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muriel_volestrangler

(101,361 posts) Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:21 AM Mar 2016

Trump can't even grasp the concept of separation of Church and State

In the interview in which he decided to punish a woman who has an abortion, but not punish the father of the fetus (which he then backed off from), he also failed to understand that someone can have a religious belief but not want it enacted as the law of the land.

TRUMP: So you’re against the teachings of your Church?
MATTHEWS: I have a view — a moral view — but I believe we live in a free country, and I don’t want to live in a country so fascistic that it could stop a person from making that decision.
TRUMP: But then you are…
MATTHEWS: That would be so invasive.
...
TRUMP: But I’ve heard you speaking so highly about your religion and your Church.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
TRUMP: Your Church is very, very strongly as you know, pro-life.
MATTHEWS: I know.
TRUMP: What do you say to your Church?
MATTHEWS: I say, I accept your moral authority. In the United States, the people make the decision, the courts rule on what’s in the Constitution, and we live by that. That’s why I say.
TRUMP: Yes, but you don’t live by it because you don’t accept it. You can’t accept it. You can’t accept it. You can’t accept it.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2016/03/31/what-donald-trump-said-about-abortion-was-bad-but-what-he-said-after-that-was-worse/

Not only has Trump thought so little about one of the major political controversies in the USA that he appears to make up his policy on the spot, and then back down when he finds even conservatives don't think that way; he also cannot comprehend someone having a moral position but accepting they cannot force if on everyone by law. He needs some really basic education in civics and morality. His educational age in this area seems to be about 12. And many right wingers think he'd make a good president.

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Trump can't even grasp the concept of separation of Church and State (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 OP

Does Trump want to live under Sharia Law? Democat Mar 2016 #1

No he wants poor people to live by Sharia Law. Rich males like him do whatever they want Johonny Mar 2016 #4

Funny, I thought it was Mr Trump being interviewed. malthaussen Mar 2016 #2

a psych dissertation could be written on those two -- trump/matthews, compare and contrast. unblock Mar 2016 #3

It's a tired old Trump tactic C_U_L8R Mar 2016 #5

no, dump knows exactly what it is. he's just feeding raw meat to his followers. Javaman Mar 2016 #6

Unfortunately some of The Donald's biggest barn-burner tabloid hacks Hortensis Mar 2016 #7

Democat

(11,617 posts)

1. Does Trump want to live under Sharia Law?

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:28 AM

Mar 2016

If not, then he should support religion staying out of government.

Johonny

(20,888 posts)

4. No he wants poor people to live by Sharia Law. Rich males like him do whatever they want

Reply to Democat (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:47 AM

Mar 2016

just like places that live under Sharia Law now.

malthaussen

(17,216 posts)

2. Funny, I thought it was Mr Trump being interviewed.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:31 AM

Mar 2016

Who knew he favored Socratic dialogue? Do you realize that was six sentences in which he only said "I" once?

-- Mal

unblock

(52,317 posts)

3. a psych dissertation could be written on those two -- trump/matthews, compare and contrast.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:36 AM

Mar 2016

C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)

5. It's a tired old Trump tactic

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:13 AM

Mar 2016

When he's sitting there looking clueless and pathetic,
Trump turns the question back on the interviewer.
We need more journalists asking harder questions.
Kudos to Matthews for not relenting to Donald's bullshit.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)

6. no, dump knows exactly what it is. he's just feeding raw meat to his followers.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:51 AM

Mar 2016

dump is not stupid, he's the highest form or con-artist.

he knows exactly to which audience his half-wittery he plays too.

he has painted himself into a corner.

anything other than an extreme right wing view point will cause his numbers to drop.

As a result, he can't back peddle on anything.

If I know one thing about his right wing mouth breathing moron followers, it's this: they are fickle.

Fickle to the point that if he makes even the very slightest mistake at appearing in the most remote fashion has having an inkling of a liberal or centrist point of view, they will rant and rave and cry foul on him as if someone ran into a kindergarten and told the kids that santa claus was not only fake but dead.

he has to keep pushing the insane button over and over because his followers are like rats in a cage that respond to the buzzer for food.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)

7. Unfortunately some of The Donald's biggest barn-burner tabloid hacks

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:24 PM

Mar 2016

are starting to turn on him, worried about their part in getting him the nomination could do to their careers or whatever, according to the National Review. Ann Coulter, Michael Savage, Breitbart's Nolte, Fox's Tanteros are all finding some statement or other suddenly incredibly shocking.

I'm worried. Please, please, please I I want GOP nominee Trump for my birthday. These are all tea partier, anti-establishment schticks, though, that are turning on him. Will the debased GOP base follow before the convention?

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