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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLSD could make you smarter, happier and healthier. Should we all try it?
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TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)could have been, though. I was going through a lot of changes in those years.
onethatcares
(16,178 posts)and often wonder if my mind could take the step outside any longer at my age.
TexasTowelie
(112,325 posts)and also gave me some perspective that I did not have before. The information in the article about the default mode network and the effect on ego also holds some validity from my point of view.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)TexasTowelie
(112,325 posts)that there is no explanation for Elway Supremo.
safeinOhio
(32,711 posts)cured my depression. If only I would have stopped after that one. I think it works, but would suggest using it only under supervision for that purpose.
PufPuf23
(8,804 posts)Seriously society needs a rethink and repurpose of psychedelics / entheogens.
Would definitely be a lot more fun to watch!
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)don't forget to bring a towel
TexasTowelie
(112,325 posts)I want to be there for the trip.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)You're the worst character ever.
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TexasTowelie
(112,325 posts)But I did come up with a good GD thread that stayed active throughout Sunday. People must be trippin'!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)of the Atlantic Ocean.
onethatcares
(16,178 posts)my last was fighting fires in Alaska for the Army after driving through exploding trees in an APC, 1974 vintage.
What a gas......
B Calm
(28,762 posts)a battle ship, looking at the curvature of planet earth and 10 million stars was a great trip. The phosphate in the water looked like there was underwater city. Orange Sunshine was the LSD.
Driving through an exploding Forrest fire would have terrified me.
Maynar
(769 posts)I might not have quit, lo those many years ago.
the purple microdot quality went in the shitter, so I said screw that.
Me out.
Purple Microdot.
Good times.
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Jitter65
(3,089 posts)edhopper
(33,599 posts)I would have, but didn't feel the situation was right the few times it was available.
One thing, those anti-drug films in Jr. High they showed us really made me want to try, those trips they showed were far out!
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)you need to have a strong will and sense of identity - some people simply cannot handle it
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Holly_Hobby
(3,033 posts)I believe he had incredible results with the prison population rate of recidivism.
Logical
(22,457 posts)hobbit709
(41,694 posts)And yes, it's the real thing.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Oblivious to the trap, William L. Pickard Jr., a University of California at Los Angeles researcher who studies psychoactive drugs of the future, took several aluminum canisters from a silo shed, put them in his rented Buick and merged into traffic.
Minutes later, red lights and sirens pulsing, Kansas Highway Patrol officers stopped Pickard and a friend following him in a van. Clyde Apperson, a Mountain View business consultant, was arrested. But Pickard bolted from his Buick, which rolled into a ditch as the marathon-running vegetarian vanished into the heartland dusk.
Inside the vehicles, agents found sophisticated laboratory equipment and what they allege is enough raw material to make 16 million doses of LSD. Pickard, they say, was poised to use the missile base, built during the Cold War to defend the American way of life, to make the drug that helped launch the 1960s counterculture and inspired Timothy Leary's exhortations to "turn on, tune in and drop out."
This is the story about the life and times of Pickard, a brilliant chemist who was deputy director of UCLA's Drug Policy Research Program, and how he came to be accused of conspiring to run one of the nation's largest LSD labs.
Much more at :
http://io9.gizmodo.com/there-really-is-an-lsd-shortage-and-heres-why-1677123866
redruddyred
(1,615 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Available online.
Furthermore, it's making a comeback amongst the youngsters, due largely to Mexican and Dutch laboratories. (I know a relative of the west coast's main LSD distributor, weirdly enough, and have learned all kinds of weird things lately. Come at me, DEA: I'm clean and sober, and this post is hearsay. In fact, I'm a compulsive liar and none of this is true).
I consider taking it once a year or so, but I'm old and fat and busy and have a real job, et cetera, but I've got no regrets about taking it when I was younger. It made me a much better person.
GoldenMean
(49 posts)Easter vacation 1969
San Miguel's Village
A small beach side campground just north of Ensenada
I'm laying in the shade of an old canvas tarp attached to my VW bug
The campers next to me and my buddy Hambone, put the Beatles White Album on replay on their 8 track.
The blue tablet with peace symbol, LSD, me and Hambone had eaten about 30 min. earlier, started coming on heavy and hard.
The last thing I remember is leaving my body and following a shaft of light coming through a small hole in the tarp.
At first my fear tried to stop the feeling of acceleration.
Sparks flew like a grinders wheel.
The calming music of the Beatles drifted in and I totally let loose of all fear and suddenly I became one with a pure white light that surrounded me with a feeling of pure love and bliss.
I bathed in that light for a timeless eternity, until I became conscious of a tugging from my body. My bladder and tooth fillings had pulled me back in from my trip across the universe.
The seed of awareness from that trip has been my guide and source of peace through out my life.
There is no death, only light.
http://www.lavondyss.com/donut/guide/lsd.html
http://deoxy.org/annex/cwl.htm
Rex
(65,616 posts)I know a guy that it permanently fucked up from taking it.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Solly Mack
(90,778 posts)Can't say either way.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Oh...wait...nevermind.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Terrible drug. Don't do it. You might get lucky, and you might not. You don't know how you are going to react before you do it, and some people do it and never get to stop doing it.
It's a one way trip to hell for some.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Richard D
(8,758 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Hard to imagine even less fear and more bliss. You might leave orbit, and then what?
Richard D
(8,758 posts)It could be more fear and less bliss too, but in the context of a "teacher plant" that can even be more valuable than the bliss. 0 It's a strong medicine. Long history of thousands of years of use. No unicorns farting rainbows, but the potential for an experience of unity with the natural world and Self. I've been working with it for 30+ years, and it doesn't get old.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)I have some experience with it so let me give you some tips.
#1 - For your first time, take the SMALLEST effective dose possible. Don't be shy about cutting that tab into quarters. LSD is serious stuff, not like smoking a joint.
#2 - The effect comes on gradually over a period of 15-45 minutes. Don't take more thinking you didn't take enough. Just wait, it'll happen.
#3 - Don't do it alone. Always have someone who is mentally stable and who you trust thoroughly and implicitly as a wingman.
#4 - Before you start, buy a lot of orange juice, and if you smoke, have a good supply of weed and/or cigarettes handy. You don't want to have figure out how to satisfy a burning need for a smoke in the middle of your trip. The orange juice is both for hydration and to enhance visual effects.
#5 - Pick a safe, comfortable place to do it. If you can do it out in the countryside that's the best, especially if you are a nature lover. Trees are a million times cooler than you ever imagined them to be.
#6 - Pink Floyd is fucking awesome. Frank Zappa too if you can handle the intensity. (But The Wall is not a good pick for the first time through.) Or whatever you like, have some positive-spirit music handy - steer clear of moody or angry stuff.
#7 - Don't watch TV. Just don't do it. It will be way too disturbing an experience. Anything with advertisements or commercials should be avoided, as they are awash in negative karma.
#8 - Eventually with experience you will learn to control the effect. Once you do, you can take full advantage of its benefits. Until then, the watchword is PLAY IT SAFE. LSD is a risk for those who aren't experienced.
#9 - Have a good time! The experience will be spiritually, intellectually, and emotionally enlightening - profoundly so. Accept that it will be and have a mindset to enjoy it, and the experience will be all the fuller.
flobee1
(870 posts)Taking it while camping in the fall
Especially while all the flocks of birds started flying south for the winter. Hundreds of birds all moving around like a big cloud, i was occupied for hours!
bhikkhu
(10,720 posts)...at one point I had to go to the bathroom, got lost for about two hours, couldn't find light switches, etc. Funny in retrospect, but I had enough practice in meditation and so forth to feel when a bit of ugliness was starting, and was able to keep things cool.
Overall good experiences though. At the time I'd moved to the east coast and was isolated most of the time, away from big circles of friends I'd left. I'd take a tab on a weekend, watch movies, listen to music, go for walks when I learned to control it well enough. I never took enough to hallucinate freely as I found the low-dose effects very satisfying.
I did buy a watch with an AM/PM indicator, and that showed the day and date. I found that time became a big question, and there was always a fear that I'd figured the days wrong, was going to miss work or something.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)I don't think I'll repeat it after all these decades.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Tried it once and didn't like it.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)If only there was any that was decent around in the last twenty five years.
I have taken it over a hundred times and never had a bad trip. It is a great way to clean out the cobwebs in your mind.
Don't recommend it for everyone, you need to know your mind.
OutNow
(864 posts)My experiences were in the early 1970s and were very positive. Every time I hear Voodoo Child it brings back some awesome memories. Man, that was a long time ago.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,381 posts)fizzgig
(24,146 posts)Locrian
(4,522 posts)I'd do it or DMT in a second.
steve2470
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During the trip I actually thought the cast of Jesus Christ Superstar was in the loudspeakers. So, yea, I think it was the real thing.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)Or possibly some other hallucinogen.
I have zero desire to giggle and get the munchies. But the idea of going on a mind bending trip, on the other hand, does sound fascinating. At least once.
But the possibility of flashbacks and accidental harm that might result from a trip pretty much keeps me from ever acting on my temptations.
Logical
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Logical
(22,457 posts)Maynar
(769 posts)but I recall reading accounts of Leary's passing and that's what happened there.
Big surprise.
The person guiding him asked if he wanted more, Tim kept replying, "Why not, why not."
At least that's how I remember it.
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onethatcares
(16,178 posts)instead for your first.
I haven't tripped in over 30 years but those substances make for some experiences.
Good luck and have fun.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,189 posts)Tripping is one of those non-bucket list things that honestly I won't have too much regret about not having done when I lie on my deathbed.
But the thought of it is somewhat intriguing, nonetheless.
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wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)from 1971. That shit was fucking strong.
xloadiex
(628 posts)We also had green barrel. My favorite was windowpane. Anyone remember that? I remember sitting and cutting it into 4ths on the back of the toilet tank to share with friends before trekking off to school. Orange sunshine was another favorite. I miss the 70's.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)with the barrel.
WheelWalker
(8,955 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,724 posts)I was under a high security clearance and could not tell anyone where I was or what I was doing, and could not talk to people outside my group. That situation did not go well with my first trip and not knowing I was taking it.
Nope don't ever do that. Nope not a good situation at all.
(How come there isn't a running around naked on an AF base screaming and trying to pull all my hair out smiley?)
TexasTowelie
(112,325 posts)I think you need to put that question in the ATA forum for Skinner to answer and point to this thread when you do it. The reply may end up being priceless.
LiberalArkie
(15,724 posts)thread got started. Youth, what can one say.
shanti
(21,675 posts)at 60, the time for trying something like acid has come and gone. i'll stick to my
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)But psychedelics can be beneficial, enlightening and therapeutic for some people under some circumstances.
In my experience, For some people they can provide profound opportunities for personal growth.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)I was a very anxious person and had trouble falling asleep. Worried about things.
One time I was dong acid and this glass busted in my head like a bottle hitting a wall and blood ran down the wall.
It was like this huge release and I never had chronic anxiety again.
I learned things on other episodes. If you do acid with somebody a lot you can develop telepathy, but you can do that without acid too.
It's possible to reprogram your brain but just like anything you could reprogram it wrong if you aren't careful.
The thing about acid is if you have something bugging you it can make it worse sometimes. I remember one time I was smoking a lot of dope and the acid turned against me and kept bugging me about getting high too much. So sometimes the experience is unpleasant but then you have to go back and do what it tells you to get your life straight.
The acid today is much purer than in the old days. However it is not as strong.
I haven't done it for 3 or 4 years.
Second to last time was at a festival, small dose. My wife and I were walking back to camp after seeing LOTUS. They were great and these people ran a huge lighted dragon thru the crowd. We laughed our asses off.
On the way back my wife and I saw these people by the path with a childs swimming pool set up looking in it with flashlights. We were speculating what they were doing with a swimming pool set up. What were they selling?
When we got closer we realized it was somebody shining a flashlight on the ground, standing there while talking. We had hallucinated the entire childs pool off of the circular beam of light on the ground. That was a good laugh!
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bhikkhu
(10,720 posts)I messed with a bunch of different stuff in my long and troubled youth. In retrospect, there was more harm than good in the bulk of it and I'd flush most any of that stuff nowadays if it happened to be in my possession. LSD is the exception. It got me out of a depression, helped with shyness and self-esteem problems, and helped build (I think) some healthy creative neural habits that I was able to retain over the years. Too bad supply is such a problem, 25 years since I knew anyone...
GoldenMean
(49 posts)Dock Ellis pitched a no hitter on acid
Steve Jobs was an acid head
Silicon billionaires use it as a way to think outside the "reality" box
http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/25/technology/lsd-psychedelics-silicon-valley/
Be Here Now
I was perched high on acid, high on a ledge overlooking an "energy" spot in the Big Bear Lake mountains. On the rock I was clinging to suddenly appeared the letters , L L L, etched into the stone with laser precision.
I heard a voice in my head keep repeating the phrase
"Live to Learn to Love"
That has been my Mantra for existence ever since.
As I grew older I realized that the basic reality of living revolves around eat, sleep, work, shit .
My goal in this evolution is to live to learn to do these basics with Love.
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leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)But I didn't like the speedy part of the high. I am afraid to try it again because I have high blood pressure and I think it might be really bad for that.
randr
(12,413 posts)Well I am.