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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:32 PM Apr 2016

Miss. interracial couple evicted from RV park

TUPELO, Miss. — A Mississippi RV park owner admits evicting an interracial couple in late February because of the color of the husband's skin.

...

The next day, she said, Baker telephoned her and said, “Hey, you didn’t tell me you was married to no black man.”

She said she replied that she didn’t realize it was a problem.

“Oh, it’s a big problem with the members of my church, my community and my mother-in-law,” she quoted him as saying. “They don’t allow that black and white shacking.”

“We’re not shacking. We’re married,” she replied.

“Oh, it’s the same thing,” she quoted him as replying.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/04/03/mississippi-interracial-couple-evicted-over-race/82584514/

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Miss. interracial couple evicted from RV park (Original Post) The Straight Story Apr 2016 OP
Not to be snobby... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #1
Are you're an interracial couple? lunatica Apr 2016 #7
It's an old Vaudeville joke... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #9
Thanks for the clarification lunatica Apr 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #25
I was just talking about banana seats this past weekend Paulie Apr 2016 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #53
What year is this again? xfundy Apr 2016 #2
Have you ever driven through MS? Warpy Apr 2016 #31
Yes, a few times. 47of74 Apr 2016 #37
Baton Rouge is in Louisiana. yardwork Apr 2016 #41
Well, shit Warpy Apr 2016 #46
It's ok. I've been making far worse mistakes lately! yardwork Apr 2016 #49
Mississippi, the shittiest state in the country followed by Arkansas, Alabama, snooper2 Apr 2016 #51
2016. KamaAina Apr 2016 #54
It'll be legal if the governor signs that religious freedom bill. NutmegYankee Apr 2016 #3
CIB Martin Eden Apr 2016 #18
What a crappy, hateful church and family he must belong to. Ilsa Apr 2016 #4
A couple of years ago, for our 16th Amiversary, ... stone space Apr 2016 #5
Where in Chicago? world wide wally Apr 2016 #8
Here: stone space Apr 2016 #16
I grew up there. It is surprising you would get a reaction like that in that area. world wide wally Apr 2016 #34
I was always partial to Gino's East, myself. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #57
I'm gonna second the question as to where in Chicago? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #43
I think Chicago is as racially divided in many ways more than some places in the South. nt TeamPooka Apr 2016 #44
Certainly there are neighborhoods which are predominantly certain ethnicities Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #45
See post #16. stone space Apr 2016 #47
What needs to be done Pakid Apr 2016 #6
I want to see a power company executive with some guts do this. NutmegYankee Apr 2016 #14
Rv park owner is a fool Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #13
Well, he is the owner so he is probably hanging in a sweet double wide instead of a 14x70 snooper2 Apr 2016 #52
My nephew is about to marry a black girl FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #11
Have them move to my town... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #15
Alas, they will be living in Florida FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #17
I grew up next to the White Earth Indian Reservation in Minnesota... Odin2005 Apr 2016 #26
I grew up... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #30
Ouch! Now that's a tough neighborhood. n/t paleotn Apr 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #36
that's interesting.... paleotn Apr 2016 #42
I'm originally a northerner, although I live liberalhistorian Apr 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #29
I'm from Iowa and we have some racist dumbfucks here. 47of74 Apr 2016 #40
Wow! nt DesertRat Apr 2016 #12
Mississippi huh? edhopper Apr 2016 #20
I'm from the north, and I assure you that liberalhistorian Apr 2016 #27
I agree Orrex Apr 2016 #48
It's just not as socially acceptable anymore.... paleotn Apr 2016 #38
This is an open and shut lawsuit for them bluestateguy Apr 2016 #21
+1000 n/t paleotn Apr 2016 #39
Yes it is. On the other hand, when this happens to LGBT couples it's perfectly legal there to just Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #56
I hope they sue. Solly Mack Apr 2016 #22
As a Millennial I find this incomprehensible. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #23
100% of people... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #33
Back in the 70's my parents had a basement aparment they rented OldHippieChick Apr 2016 #28
See... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #32
Did he actually say "no black man"? KamaAina Apr 2016 #55
 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
9. It's an old Vaudeville joke...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:48 PM
Apr 2016

...where the guy says he's been thrown out of nicer places that this.

It uses a comedy technique known as being self-effacing, see Dangerfield, Rodney.

In other words, it's a light-hearted way to say that the racist RV park was probably not much of a loss, there are nicer places to be than that. Most anything would probably be better for the couple.

Sometimes humor can be used to highlight the absurdity of a situation.

The situation is patently absurd.

However the couple may take this as an opportunity to secure nicer surroundings, and later in life, drive past the RV park and comment 'we lived there once?'

That's what people do. They dust-off and move on.

To answer the question, no, my wife and I are not inter-racial. But she has dark hair, dark complexion and is kind of curvy. The desk clerk at the YMCA once went to call the police when a 'Mexican woman' tried to pick up three blonde children. At first it hurts, but we laugh about it now.

The couple has my complete support and I wish them all the best.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Thanks for the clarification
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:22 PM
Apr 2016

And for taking the trouble to respond to a somewhat unfriendly question. My apologies, and welcome to DU

Response to lunatica (Reply #19)

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
50. I was just talking about banana seats this past weekend
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 08:21 AM
Apr 2016

I had a Columbia bike growing up with a leopard print banana seat. I didn't care about the looks, it was mine. And fast! Until it was stolen. Which is how it came up in conversation.

Response to Paulie (Reply #50)

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
31. Have you ever driven through MS?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:45 PM
Apr 2016

I did some years ago and was amazed by how backwards everything was even compared to Alabama, which I'd just left. It's like time has stood still for about 70 years. Now I was in the northern part of the state and things might be better in Baton Rouge and points south where the tourists are , but holy shit! I was glad to be driving a beat up pickup truck so I blended, just hoping nobody would notice the NM license plate on it and mistake me for a job stealin' Messican.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
37. Yes, a few times.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

Mainly stuck to I-55 and I-20 on our way to or from my uncle's house near Alexandria, Louisiana. One time though we went down 61 at Vicksburg to Natchez then across instead of crossing in to Louisana and taking 65. That was an experience driving down that way.

Sometimes I would kind of like to go down and visit my uncle's family in Louisiana. Maybe one of these years I'll go down again while he and my aunt are still in good health.

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
3. It'll be legal if the governor signs that religious freedom bill.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:42 PM
Apr 2016

The park owner will state that he has a "sincere and deeply held belief" against accommodating interracial marriage.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. What a crappy, hateful church and family he must belong to.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:43 PM
Apr 2016

Shame on him, his community, and his mother-in-law for their bigotry.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
5. A couple of years ago, for our 16th Amiversary, ...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 04:50 PM
Apr 2016

...my wife and I went to Chicago, and then on to Niagara Falls.

We got married in 1996, but we never actually had a honeymoon back then.

While in Chicago, we stopped at a Pizza Place.

Anyway, there were tables on the street in front of the place, so we sat there. So did a guy with what appeared to be his two sons. The waiter came around to his table and took his order. Soon after that, they all looked towards us, and gave us dirty looks. They got up and left, after giving their order to the waiter, and just left the menus on the table, leaving the waiter to wonder what had happened.

We felt like we had AR-15s strapped to our backs or something, the way that they looked at us and scurried out of there after seeing us.

I mean, what were they so afraid of?








Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
43. I'm gonna second the question as to where in Chicago?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:13 PM
Apr 2016

I mean, obviously there are bigots everywhere, but in my experience Chicago's a pretty diverse and fairly evolved place.

I am surprised and disappointed.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
45. Certainly there are neighborhoods which are predominantly certain ethnicities
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:34 PM
Apr 2016

Like greektown. Polish neighborhoods, etc

But ive spent a lot of time in chicago and it has always been very publicly integrated and open. Ive never seen anything remotely resembling what that post describes.

Pakid

(478 posts)
6. What needs to be done
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

is reverse discrimination. Give the bigots a taste of their own medicine. Next time some one like this bigot walk in some place toss him out and say sorry I don't serve bigots

NutmegYankee

(16,201 posts)
14. I want to see a power company executive with some guts do this.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:57 PM
Apr 2016

Announce that he has a deeply held and sincere belief against serving bigots and then cut off their electric power for good.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #10)

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
11. My nephew is about to marry a black girl
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

Interracial marriage is privately frowned upon by many more than people want to believe in both the north and south. She has already had to deal with a couple of times with openly aggressive and angry black guys when they are in public. Not so much other women.

Sad.



 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
15. Have them move to my town...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 05:58 PM
Apr 2016

in upstate New York.

I am honestly saying that one of several reasons my wife and I put an offer on our house (10 years ago) was because in the time it took for the real estate agent to meet us at the local deli, we said hello to two inter-racial couples.

And if someone does say something crappy, let me know about it.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
26. I grew up next to the White Earth Indian Reservation in Minnesota...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:35 PM
Apr 2016

and mixed White-Native marriages are extremely common up there. I have many cousins who are mixed race. It was completely normal to me as a kid, being against interracial relationships in completely outside my comprehension.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
30. I grew up...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:43 PM
Apr 2016

Next to the elevated subway in Brooklyn. Down the block from a mob family 'social club.'

And around the corner from a city park.

On several occasions my dog came back with really expensive hats or scarves, usually with blood on them.

Everything was normal to me as a kid.

Response to paleotn (Reply #35)

paleotn

(17,937 posts)
42. that's interesting....
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:56 PM
Apr 2016

...I'd have hid under my bed every night for fear Joe Pesci or somebody was going to bust in and start shooting up the place.

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
24. I'm originally a northerner, although I live
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

in a western state now, and I can honestly and without equivocation say that such attitudes are just as bad in the north as they are in the south, there's just a different way of dealing with and displaying them. Actually, it's pretty bad in the west, too, especially in regards to white-Indian marriages/relationships.

I live in a certain western state that is VERY openly racist and discriminatory against its quite large Indian population; it's like the 1950's south in many areas of the state. Including, and perhaps especially, in an area where a certain national monument is carved, a "shrine of freedom" that is a direct slap in the face to the people who once roamed and owned the very land upon which it is carved and who dealt with attempted genocide against them.

My husband and I are white and his ex-wife was Indian. They dealt with several openly racist and discriminatory incidents and constant attitudes.

Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #24)

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
40. I'm from Iowa and we have some racist dumbfucks here.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:47 PM
Apr 2016

Back in the early 90s the racist dumbfuck population of Dubuque were up to all sorts of nasty shit.

There were only a handful of black people in town. A resident could go for years without seeing a black. And besides, people thought, racism was something that happened in the big cities or the Deep South, not in a nice, quiet place like Dubuque.

But in recent weeks and months, Dubuque residents have been talking and thinking of race often. Because of a cross-burning incident two years ago that surprised many people, the city council last May adopted an extraordinary plan to attract 100 black families in hopes of adding diversity to this virtually all-white city of 58,000 people. A Backlash of Fear

Since then, a backlash of fear and intolerance has erupted. Five crosses have been burned around town in the last four months. This week, uniformed police officers stood guard at Dubuque Senior High School after racial fights broke out. In recent days, racial epithets have been scrawled on buildings across town, some proclaiming "the New KKK."

And when a man who admitted burning three of the crosses returned from jail to his job at a meatpacking plant, his co-workers are said to have greeted him with backslaps and a standing ovation.


Even 20/20 came out to do a piece on Dubuque.



And like they said one of the guys whining about the crime rate had his own lengthy rap sheet.

Unfortunately we still have a racist fuckstick element in the area that spews hatred every chance they get.

edhopper

(33,599 posts)
20. Mississippi huh?
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:26 PM
Apr 2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/interracial-marriage-deep-south_n_1339827.html

On Monday, polling firm Public Policy Polling (PPP) revealed that 29 percent of likely GOP voters surveyed in Mississippi believe that interracial marriage should be illegal.


But we can't bash the South, can we?

liberalhistorian

(20,819 posts)
27. I'm from the north, and I assure you that
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:35 PM
Apr 2016

if you were to give the same poll anonymously anywhere in the north you'd likely find the same result. Racial animus, bigotry, hatred and ignorance are by no means at all limited to one area of the country.

Orrex

(63,219 posts)
48. I agree
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 07:37 AM
Apr 2016

If anything, the north is better at managing perception, but the south absolutely doesn't have a monopoly on racism.

paleotn

(17,937 posts)
38. It's just not as socially acceptable anymore....
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 08:31 PM
Apr 2016

to be as overt about it, both north, south or west, but it does exist in nearly equal measure everywhere and is more prevalent than you imagine. One positive note, if you can call it that, is the guy was so up front about his ignorant bigotry. At least one doesn't have to correctly interpret the slimy, dog whistle, weasel words. To borrow a quote from Lincoln, at least they exhibit their bigotry pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
56. Yes it is. On the other hand, when this happens to LGBT couples it's perfectly legal there to just
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 02:04 PM
Apr 2016

say 'we don't rent to you people' and they do, every single day.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
23. As a Millennial I find this incomprehensible.
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:30 PM
Apr 2016

IIRC 97% of people 30 years old and younger approve of interracial marriage. I grew next to a reservation and mixed White-Native marriages are widespread, I have relatives married to Native Americans or are part Native and so interracial relationships were completely normal to me growing up, I dated 2 Ojibwe gals in high school for Christ's sake.

Going to the rural South must be like going back 50 years in a time machine...

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
33. 100% of people...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

...should not even be asked if they approve or not.

None of their damn business.

FWIW, my wife insists that the Millennials are the one's that are going to save us all from ourselves.

Good luck, and bring plenty of soap, paper towels and garbage bags.

You have a lot of cleaning up to do.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
28. Back in the 70's my parents had a basement aparment they rented
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

A white lady showed up to apply for the apartment. Later she brought her fiancée, a black man, to see the apartment. My father said he could not rent to them at that time. They asked if it was because they were an interracial couple. He replied that no, it was because they were not married. They married two weeks later and my father rented to them. I used to call him "Archie Bunker", but after that I went back to calling him "Daddy".

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
32. See...
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 07:52 PM
Apr 2016

....that is a cool story. Even though times have changed, I could see someone using that criteria today.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
55. Did he actually say "no black man"?
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:24 PM
Apr 2016

Or was it something else that rhymes with "trigger"? As me Scots grandpa might have said, "I hae me doots."

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