... I see the problem.

I am not quite that far but close. I can imagine you find it all very difficult. lol

But I'm still fascinated - I'm learning so much about human nature!

all of us by this. This is simply the most awful place right now. The candidates are so different.

My wife spent almost 30 years living in the States. When she moved up to Canada to marry me 6 years ago, she was still quite starry-eyed about the place, and was frequently nostalgic. Now we look on in horror as the place disintegrates in front of our eyes.

But yes, I know that "the place" doesn't represent of all its people. Hey, some of my best friends are Americans! :-/

I'd think the taxes would be very high, but nobody would collect them, and there's no government to spend them anyway.

A strange place indeed.

And you'd have to pay them. The taxes would go to health care, excellent public education, child care, maternity leave, dental and drug benefits, police, fire and roads.

But the government wouldn't be in your bedroom. Two consenting adults could do whatever they want, marry whomever they wish, smoke whatever they wanted to smoke, live however they like as long as it doesn't harm other people.

The kind of libertarian you normally see is the right wing version, the guys who think they are true self made men and don't need (and have never needed) help from any government service (except maybe roads and contract enforcement, or whatever exceptions they personally make).

I admit left-leaning libertarianism seems like a contradiction, but if you think of it as "let's all take care of each other, but not interfere in other people's personal lives", it mostly works.

... then I start moving "up" the square, maybe toward the center, because I'd envision some "authority" defining standards for health care, education, roads, police, etc.

For example, I would paint lines on roads, and authoritatively dictate that everyone should drive on the same side of the street. I'd have a traffic czar. So to that degree, I'd interfere in your life. Respectfully.

I'd like to say I'm libertarian, but in moderation.

I don't think anything should be done to encourage driving.

Automobiles are among the very worst of human inventions, right up there with napalm, handguns, and atomic weapons.

If there were no roads suitable for automobiles then nobody would have them. I think this would be a good thing.

I suspect I'm not in the lower left corner of GliderGuider's box, I've gnawed away the corner and escaped into my own imaginary world.

The rest just wish they were!

Than I am

But I think Sanders is closer to Me
and Clinton is closer to Trump.

We are all over the place. I gave myself a pep talk when I got up this morning to keep my mouth shut! I am probably not all the way bottom left, but definitely more progressive that the blue circle in the blue squares. Wondering where I can go to live where it is peaceful and neighbors look out for each other. OK, get out the zipper!

One manifestation, one vote.

Where I fall:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-5.25&soc=-5.08

On every major issue he polls right along with the middle of America.

Funny how that middle seems far left these days. That is what 30 years of capitulating to corporations will get you. A middle painted up and distorted into that shape by every investor in Wall St. who individually assure we never experience bottom up democracy and one whom certainly never hopes to experience a left leaning candidate.

Not really fair to say that is where they would be, unless they took the test themselves.

is to the left and lower than Bernie but I'm close enough to be able to hug him. He's so close, there is no other choice.