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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:30 AM Apr 2016

Hoffa: It Gets Worse if TPP is Enacted

By Teamsters General President James P. Hoffa

The Teamsters and many other pro-worker allies have written repeatedly about the devastating lasting effects of bad trade deals in Michigan and across the U.S. But during the presidential primary, the importance of the issue finally caught the nation’s attention.

Michigan voters across the political spectrum showed both the candidates and the media that concerns about lousy trade deals like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) can’t be ignored. Contrary to what the corporate elites have tried to make the political class believe, this is not a fringe issue.

Fifty-seven percent of Democrats and 55 percent of Republicans voting in the March 8 primary agreed with the statement “trade with other countries takes away U.S. jobs.” Those who saw through the unfair trade charade propagated by big business overwhelmingly supported the candidates who won in Michigan on both sides of the aisle.

Between 1994 and 2015, the Great Lakes State lost almost 232,000 manufacturing jobs, more than 28 percent of all such jobs statewide. Those good-paying union jobs aren’t recreated even when unemployment ticks down like it has in recent years.

So while this country can’t undo the past with NAFTA, it can prevent off-shoring tens of thousands of additional jobs that would result as part of the TPP if approved.

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kaleckim

(651 posts)
3. As far as I knew
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

they haven't endorsed anyone, which was big news awhile ago. I thought I remembered them considering Trump, given his stance on trade. Yikes. There is another option though...

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
8. Trump supports L-1 visas which will seriously hurt skilled professions
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:17 PM
Apr 2016

he is only against illegal immigration, not against legal non-immigrant visa abuse to cut wages . thats the real danger.

Bodych

(133 posts)
6. That Would Be Nobody
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:13 PM
Apr 2016

According to the Detroit News, March 4, 2016:

Although the UAW, Teamsters and AFL-CIO have not backed a candidate...

It's challenging deciding between somebody who does not back TPP (and with 100% certainty) versus somebody who pushed the trade bill she now opposes at least 45 times, per CNN's Jake Tapper on June 15, 2015.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
5. Yay TPP! Awesome NAFTA! Build more Keystone! Go Hillary, we're with you!!
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:00 PM
Apr 2016

Please! Sell us out even more! Oh goodie!

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
7. The TPP, TISA, TTIP and GPA - Not just TPP- are all in various phases of completion- Lame Duck is wh
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:16 PM
Apr 2016

when they will try to sneak them through. PLEASE DONT TRUST EITHER PARTY ON THIS.

If theypass, likely if any of them pass, it will cost indivual Americans HUGE amounts of money - things like drug prices become impossible to control with the TPP.


FTAS PAST _(current-existing) AS WELL AS PENDING ARE THE PRODUCT OF TOTALLY CORRUPT SYSTEM AND LEADERS AND ALL need to be rejected and the whole model completely dumped and reengineered.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
9. Three disasters in One...
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:32 PM
Apr 2016

the TPP, TISA, and TTIP are regarded as the "Triangle of Death" for the last remnants of democracy in America...

rladdi

(581 posts)
10. What is the issue with Politicians allowing jobs to leave America? Are they so ignorant
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

to what is going on or do they just hate workers and the rights they have. American voters should be electing those candidates that stand with unions and workers rights. Reject those Republicans who think workers can live on peanuts, but supporting billions in profits for corporations.

WAKE UP AMERICA AND VOTE FOR MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, not the politicians bank account.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
12. Corporations do it for the money
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:13 PM
Apr 2016

By midcentury most jobs will be automated - So people will need to figure out a new way to support themselves. People without an income wont have a place to live because that costs money. So they wont have a vote.

Its not the corporations fault they are amoral. A corporation is a legal fiction, its not a person physically, only legally.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
13. Do you know about the Four Modes of Supply?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:19 PM
Apr 2016

The fourth mode is the "movement of natural persons".


basically, look at it this way, in order for US companies to be given Most favored nation status or national Treatment status, the US has to give other countries something in exchange.

Since the government cannot give away private corporate jobs, it can only privatize public jobs. Which public jobs to be privatized? Only those which are not "public services" in this narrowly defined sense..

"For the purposes of this Agreement…

(b) 'services' includes any service in any sector except services supplied in the exercise of governmental authority;

(c) 'a service supplied in the exercise of governmental authority' means any service which is supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers."


Google the texts above for more on this controversial subject
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. They don't care
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

because they know we won't do a damn thing about it. When it comes to killing US jobs, both sides love doing it, so voting won't fix it. There is always the French solution, but we don't have the stomach for it.

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