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David Barton: Disney Movies Are Turning Animals Into Pagan Gods
Submitted by Kyle Mantyla on Monday, 4/11/2016 1:56 pm
On his "WallBuilders Live" radio program today, David Barton repeated his warning that Disney movies are anthropomorphizing animals by making people believe that they have human-like thoughts and feelings, which is causing people to essentially worship pagan gods. "If you look back at the time of the Bible, a lot of the idols back then were actually animals," Barton said. "Dagon was the fish God." Barton claimed that America never had any sort of animal rights movement until this nation got away from the Bible and Disney started producing movies like "Bambi" and "Lady and the Tramp," in which animals were presented as human surrogates. "The Bible tells us that you are to be kind to your animals," he stated, "but you don't worship your animals, you don't make a Dagon god out of them and that's what we've now done."
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/david-barton-disney-movies-are-turning-animals-pagan-gods#sthash.tWuNnfsj.dpuf
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Therefore, I worship my furry beasties.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,350 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)NV Whino
(20,886 posts)And Therein lies the problem.
Shoonra
(523 posts)Where did Disney turn animals into GODS ??? Just because he made animals anthropomorphic, but Disney wasn't the first.
Before Disney there were silent and near-silent animated cartoon characters like Crazy Cat and Felix the Cat, and before that comic strip characters, and before that we had Mother Goose stories and Aesop's Fables and even stuff that Disney eventually got around to drawing such as Uncle Remus and Puss in Boots and the Three Little Pigs and on and on.
And when did Disney tell us to WORSHIP animals???
This guy is a loon, which is, I think, a type of bird. Anthropomorphizing is as old as humankind. Early man told stories that involved animals! The ignorance of the religious right can be astounding.
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)Scruffy Rumbler
(961 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Lewis Carroll wasn't. He was a little girl worshipper.
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Beausoleil
(2,843 posts)Only snakes and donkeys should be talking.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)The bible doesn't reference the talking animals.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Numbers 22:30
Gen 3:1
I'm sure we'll now get lectures on subtle metaphor and sophisticated theology TM when the text clearly refers to literal animal speech, but no acceptance of metaphor when it refers to, for example, the great commission.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I'd apologize, but since you were able to be rude and have an opportunity to to say "fuck" to a stranger, it seems you got what you wanted. Good for you.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)If you think profanities are so heinous, stop making easily disproven claims, to strangers no less, about facts which are common knowledge, and you won't get dismissive retorts including profanity.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)That's not the problem. I do not see any purpose in continuing this conversation. Please mistreat someone else.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)Always so ready to be persecuted. Try it from my side. Do you understand what it's like to live in a society where it's considered abnormal at best and wicked more likely to have a worldview based on facts and reason, when you are one of the minority who does so? Where there is a supermajority deeply committed to a mythology few of them understand and yet which they wish to impose as a guiding sticture on all human activity? How much deeper that bullshit becomes when you do understand that mythology yourself? Reject it, but understand it from years of academic study, its origins, its environment and historical milieu, its cultural and political growth, the higher criticism of its original writings? When you have to deal with smug ill-informed partisans of cultural ignorance who are partisans in technical ignorance.
I'm not going to ask forgiveness for intemperate responses after decades of dealing with people who make patently false claims about a book they claim to revere deeply but about which they are profoundly and spectacularly misguided. No I'm not talking here about pissant grade-school nonsense like the start of this subthread. That's a trivial example, although yes an example it is. Far more egregious ones are legion and from people who claim to know better and to care more. I've been told of the unity of scripture by people who think JEPD is a NASDAQ ticker symbol and that Galilean and Judean traditions refer to dress length. Of its singularity by people who are unaware of Canaanite and Elamite theology and who have never heard of Kuntillet Ajrud. Of its moral purity by people who don't know where Ruth lay down, think that 42 bears only show up in Paddington's family reunion, and don't even get the point of Ezekiel 23:20 in English let alone understand the oholah/oholibah in-joke. I mean it's enough to almost welcome their ignorance on matters they claim not to think are the supremely important guides to all life like pretending to understand, and abuse, the 2LOT but missing that it refers to closed systems and that big fucking orange ball in the sky might just be supplying some energy.
And it's not even just the RWNJs who at least have wilful ignorance and authoritarianism as core characteristics to excuse them. People who actually understand Hebrew and Koine Greek tend to get irritated with well-meaning apologists who confidently preach sententiously that ratsach only means murder when its used in scripture to refer to wars, executions and animal attacks, or that arsenokoitai refers to either temple prostitutes or pederasts when it's a compound of two extremely common words in the same fucking (pun intended) side by side combination the (commonly used by educated men like Paul) Greek translation of scripture deploys in Leviticus's prohibition of homosexuality. Then they try to explain away the red-letter clear description of hell as if JC, a mouthpiece few would say was unfond of metaphors, were actually being literal about the eternal fate of God's unsaved as being a rubbish dump in the Levant, even though its fire is long ago quenched, something an omniscient chappy should have known.
TL;DR version. When you are not ignorant of a book a large majority of your fellow citizens wish to impose as the ultimate authority in your shared society, it's hardly unreasonable to be pissy when they demonstrate that unfortunately, they are.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)The Goat God! /s
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Greek Name - ???
Transliteration - Pan
Latin Name - Faunus, Inuus
Translation - All (pan), Rustic
PAN was the god of shepherds and flocks, of mountain wilds, hunting and rustic music. He wandered the hills and mountains of Arkadia playing his pan-pipes and chasing Nymphs. His unseen presence aroused feelings of panic in men passing through the remote, lonely places of the wilds.
The god was a lover of nymphs, who commonly fled from his advances. Syrinx ran and was transformed into a clump of reeds, out of which the god crafted his famous pan-pipes. Pitys escaped and was turned into a mountain fir, the god's sacred tree. Ekho spurned his advances and fading away left behind only her voice to repeat forever the mountain cries of the god.
Pan was depicted as a man with the horns, legs and tail of a goat, and with thick beard, snub nose and pointed ears. He was often appears in the retinue of Dionysos alongside the other rustic gods. Greeks in the classical age associated his name with the word pan meaning "all". However, it true origin lies in an old Arkadian word for rustic.
Pan was frequently identified with other similar rustic gods such as Aristaios, the shepherd-god of northern Greece, who like Pan was titled both Agreus (the hunter) and Nomios (the shepherd); as well as with the pipe-playing Phrygian satyr Marsyas; and Aigipan, the goat-fish god of the constellation Capricorn. Sometimes Pan was multiplied into a host of Panes, or a triad named Agreus, Nomios, and Phorbas.
(more at linked headline)
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,415 posts)Line from the animated series "The Critic"
kentauros
(29,414 posts)that the only line I remember was from the opening: "It stinks!"
However, I did find it an interesting compare and contrast that Pan is the god of Shepherds and Flocks when those same terms are often used by Christians. Makes me wonder if that's another local custom they folded into their beliefs over the ages...
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)..."Evangelical Christian" ever since their Bible themeparks went bankrupt and gave benefits to same sex couples.
peabody
(445 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I knew the Bible had a talking animal in it somewhere, but couldn't recall where.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)1) animals
2) animal rights
3) pagan gods
4) Disney
and if anyone was wondering - this guy here is Dagon:
yuiyoshida
(41,832 posts)1.) elect Ted Cruz President of the United States.
2.) Have a well armed organization that hunts down and arrests those who blaspheme
against god.
3.) Death Penalty to all Blasphemers
4.) deposit their charred remains 10 miles off shore of the US.
5.) MAKE sure their family is hunted down as well.
6.) Make the Christian god, the only god allowed in the United States.
Yeah, this is what the Christian Right, really want, their own form of Sharia Law!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)You know, the end pieces we toss into the compost bin while munching on the rest.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)They are probably a portal to a demonic realm, of course.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)some of these people are really nuts. Also dipshit (that guy), animals do have feelings. Research, I know science, confirms it.
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Bless David Barton's heart!
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Enrique
(27,461 posts)RockaFowler
(7,429 posts)Her father was Poseidon
But they were mer-people (Half Fish)
Is that what they mean??
Strange people indeed
Johonny
(20,852 posts)dembotoz
(16,808 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Sun worship makes sense.
Cat worship makes sense. (I am of this faith.)
Tree worship makes sense.
Worship of some invisible fictional sky fairy makes zero sense.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)Hey, that reminds me! In three seconds she'll forget that we worshiped her, so what's the big deal?