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montanacowboy

(6,093 posts)
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:35 PM Apr 2016

Attention All Owners of Diabetic Pets

You must be aware of this. Two months ago our Aussie was diagnosed with diabetes and put on an insulin regime. This is a VERY expensive treatment even with coupons for pharmacies. One vial of Humilin N cost anywhere from $165 - $185 before taxes and coupon if you have one from GoodRX. This vial lasts about one month. And this does not count all the glucose curves you have to take and the strips are sky high in price. Then you buy the syringes for $20/box.

Here is the good news: On getting my Rx filled at a Fred Meyer Pharmacy on Friday and pharmacist told me he could no longer sell me this insulin in good conscience because I was being ripped off on the price. He said there is another insulin, exactly the same thing as Humilin N called Novalin N or Novilin N. You can buy it over the counter at WalMart for $25.00. I was floored. I checked with my Vet and they did the research and confirmed it's the exact same drug. WalMart has some kind of a deal with the pharmaceutical company that manufacturers Novalin N. And, yes, it is $25!

I have never set foot in a WalMart but I am afraid I am going to have to in this case. This is simply astounding that you can purchase Insulin over the counter for such a discount. Checking to see if anyone here has had the same experience. Please spread the word to our canine and feline brothers and sisters.

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Attention All Owners of Diabetic Pets (Original Post) montanacowboy Apr 2016 OP
This is TRUE..my dog was diabetic and after vetsulin was discontinued I sourced insulin from Walmart Demonaut Apr 2016 #1
Interesting - thanks for the info...nt jonno99 Apr 2016 #2
The same generic drug the pharmacy charges me 50.00 for dixiegrrrrl Apr 2016 #3
Nice to know Big Pharma is ripping off dogs and cats, too. KamaAina Apr 2016 #4
Yes, and in addition montanacowboy Apr 2016 #5
I just posted about this very same Texasgal Apr 2016 #6
depends on the animal lithiumbomb Apr 2016 #7
I have pet insurance PasadenaTrudy Apr 2016 #8
Question, what brand of dog food does your dog eat? RichVRichV Apr 2016 #9
I feed him Avo Derm montanacowboy Apr 2016 #15
Thanks. HuckleB Apr 2016 #10
That's crazy! I used to buy my Annie insulin at Walgreens and it was 30 for a vial. DawgHouse Apr 2016 #11
My cat is on Lantus - $220 a vial REP Apr 2016 #12
Lantus is a wonderful insulin Massacure Apr 2016 #14
It's kind of worth cost REP Apr 2016 #22
Here's a hint that I learned with my kitty was on Lantus. WillowTree Apr 2016 #17
I use Lantus myself REP Apr 2016 #20
Novalin N and Humalin N are brand names for NPH, an intermediate duration insulin Massacure Apr 2016 #13
I attempted a return to NPH when money was tight IDemo Apr 2016 #19
NPH is almost useless for people like me REP Apr 2016 #24
How do we know if our babes have the diabetes Dx? UTUSN Apr 2016 #16
My clue was in the litter box. WillowTree Apr 2016 #18
Wow, thanks. I wouldn't even notice the water intake. I just fill the bowl when it's empty. UTUSN Apr 2016 #21
What clued me onto our dog was his terrible skin montanacowboy Apr 2016 #25
Altered gait in the hind legs REP Apr 2016 #23
Me too. Desert805 Apr 2016 #31
Our vet sent us that way with our cat. JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #26
Glad you found it so 840high Apr 2016 #27
Ha Ha montanacowboy Apr 2016 #28
Good to know. 840high Apr 2016 #30
I use their store brand test strips (Relion) IDemo Apr 2016 #29

Demonaut

(8,919 posts)
1. This is TRUE..my dog was diabetic and after vetsulin was discontinued I sourced insulin from Walmart
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

the only thing I ever bought from that company

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. The same generic drug the pharmacy charges me 50.00 for
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:43 PM
Apr 2016

is 10.00 at Wal-Mart.

The people who bitch about shopping at Wal-Mart are entitled to do so .

the people who bitch at ME for shopping at Wal-Mart are entitled to do so when they buy my medicines for me.

montanacowboy

(6,093 posts)
5. Yes, and in addition
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 05:52 PM
Apr 2016

you have to pay TAX because the drug is used for animal and not human consumption

it boggles the mind, especially in Washington State where the sales tax is 10%

Texasgal

(17,045 posts)
6. I just posted about this very same
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:05 PM
Apr 2016

thing a few weeks ago.

My husband has been diagnosed with steroid induced diabetes. When we first got the news I had NO IDEA how much testing supplies and insulin cost! I was completely in shock!

CVS the pharmacy that takes our insurance ( yes, he has insurance ) tried to charge me 350.00 for a bottle of insulin, 100.00 for testing strips, 100.00 for lancets and then 50.00 for syringes!

The diabetic educator told me the novlin 30/70 available at wally world with an RX for 25.00!!! Took myself right over there and paid WAY, WAAAAY less for all supplies and walked out feeling relieved!

No crazy about wally world but in this case it's a lifesaver.

lithiumbomb

(250 posts)
7. depends on the animal
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:12 PM
Apr 2016

The best insulin for my cat's flavor of Diabetes is Lantus U-100. It is not yet available as a generic, and I pay $285/vial at Walmart. By keeping it refrigerated I can make it last about 2-3 months before it is no longer effective (I have to keep an eye on his water input and urine output to gauge this). Syringes at walmart are $12 for 100 though, so there's that.

I'm hoping it becomes generic very soon. Lantus is popular for use in cats as it's simply very effective.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
9. Question, what brand of dog food does your dog eat?
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 06:59 PM
Apr 2016

Switching to a brand that is low in carbs may help them with their diabetes.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
10. Thanks.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:04 PM
Apr 2016

I'm guessing the Humilin N is the most expensive option. There is a cheap pet only option, and a middle option for our cat, also pet only. We went with the middle option, but this is actually cheaper.

Thanks!

DawgHouse

(4,019 posts)
11. That's crazy! I used to buy my Annie insulin at Walgreens and it was 30 for a vial.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

She passed away in 2011. I had no idea the price had gone up so much.

REP

(21,691 posts)
12. My cat is on Lantus - $220 a vial
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Apr 2016

Lantus has no peak, like Humulin-N does - that why I use Lantus, too. My cat takes such a small dose we can share

Massacure

(7,525 posts)
14. Lantus is a wonderful insulin
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

My dad had a terrible experience with NPH until he eventually started using an insulin pump (with rapid-acting insulin) in the early 90s.

Lantus came to market a couple of months before my brother was diagnosed with diabetes. My doctor originally wanted to prescribe NPH for my brother and my dad told the doctor "No, you are going to prescribe Lantus." The doctor had never heard of Lantus but must have done some research because because about two or three days later he called my dad back and said he was switching my brothers prescription.

REP

(21,691 posts)
22. It's kind of worth cost
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:29 PM
Apr 2016

I'm DM2, and one of my oral meds has been strongly linked to bladder cancer (and there's a family history of that) and the other was not available for months - plus I'm in kidney failure from non-diabetic kidney disease, so I was switched to insulin. First I was on Humulin-N, which didn't seem to do much, especially when I need it, which is overnight; my liver dumps glucose and my fasting BG is horrible. Asked to be put on Lantus and my BG is steady all day - without the stomach pain I had with my oral meds.

We are cautiously optimistic that my cat is in remission; his A1c is normal and his other labs look good. He still gets tiny injections until we're completely sure.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
17. Here's a hint that I learned with my kitty was on Lantus.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:04 PM
Apr 2016

It works out to be significantly less expensive if you buy a box of pens instead of the vials. When we were first diagnosed, the vial was $108. The next time, I bought a box of 5 pens and it came to about $200 as I recall. BUT, they last much longer and wound up being much less expensive in the long run. You can use regular, inexpensive insulin syringes and just fill them from the pen. Saved me a lot of money over time.

The other advantage of Lantus for cats is that, in some cases, it can stimulate the feline pancreas and send them into remission, which it did for us for several extended periods.

I also bought her test strips on eBay and saved a bunch on those, too.

REP

(21,691 posts)
20. I use Lantus myself
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

I don't like those pen things and would rather use a needle for myself. It lasts a good long time opened at room temperature - I usually go through a vial in 30 days

Massacure

(7,525 posts)
13. Novalin N and Humalin N are brand names for NPH, an intermediate duration insulin
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 09:20 PM
Apr 2016

NPH Insulin is manufactured by both Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. Novo Nordisk calls their NPH insulin Novalin N, and Eli Lilly calls their NPH insulin Humalin N. Novo Nordisk originally invented it in 1936.

NPH is fairly cheap as far as insulin is concerned, but it behaves less predictably than newer insulins which makes dosing it more difficult. My dad used NPH until the late 80 and when my brother was diagnosed absolutely refused to let the doctor prescribe NPH for him.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
19. I attempted a return to NPH when money was tight
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:16 PM
Apr 2016

And never finished the vial. The old familiar spike followed by a crash was simply too difficult for me to manage, so back on Lantus. This graphic pretty well sums up why Lantus is the better choice for control, but obviously that is coming at a price.

REP

(21,691 posts)
24. NPH is almost useless for people like me
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:37 PM
Apr 2016

That is, DM2s who dump glucose overnight. No matter how carefully I calculated my dose, I was always high in the am. With Lantus I use the same amount and adjust the Regular dose if I'm sick or whatever. Wake up around 78 every day! Yay!

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
18. My clue was in the litter box.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:10 PM
Apr 2016

She was going through much more water than previously and it was going through her to the point where the box was a nightmare. I could clean it before I left for work in the morning and by the time I got home it would sometimes actually be puddled on top of the over-saturated litter in the end of the box where she urinated. And she was overweight, as well.

What I didn't realize until we got her on insulin and got her BG down was that another thing I might have noticed was that her coat had dried out. As soon as her numbers came back down into normal ranges, I noticed that her fur was so much softer and shinier than it had been. That became one of the things that I paid particular attention to when she was in remission so that I'd check her blood sugar if her coat started to feel drier.

montanacowboy

(6,093 posts)
25. What clued me onto our dog was his terrible skin
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

condition, flaky, red skin, dry coat and overweight. When he started the excessive water intake I thought for sure it was tryroid but turned out to be diabetes. Now after two months on insulin his skin has totally cleared up, his coat is shiny and he has lost ten pounds. And now that we can actually afford his medication I keep my fingers crossed.

I do have problems doing a glucose curve, his numbers are crazy= I have used two different human meters so now I ordered a canine meter and hope to get a better reading. He gets two injections, every twelve hrs of 16 units.

REP

(21,691 posts)
23. Altered gait in the hind legs
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:31 PM
Apr 2016

That's how I knew Stewie was diabetic. He was nearly dragging his hind feet and couldn't jump normally (he's a cat). It only took a few weeks on insulin and Vit B injections to have him walking and jumping normally.

Desert805

(392 posts)
31. Me too.
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 01:51 AM
Apr 2016

What a shock, but it was manageable and he went into long remission periods twice. Cancer got him around 15-16 years old. Such a sweetheart. Miss that guy.

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
26. Our vet sent us that way with our cat.
Mon Apr 11, 2016, 10:53 PM
Apr 2016

We were also told we could use the same hypodermic twice in the same day if we refrigerated it in a clean container.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
29. I use their store brand test strips (Relion)
Tue Apr 12, 2016, 12:14 AM
Apr 2016

$19 for 100 strips versus $100+ for the name brand test strips. Really ludicrous, since I'm sure the production cost is pennies per strip.

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