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You must be aware of this. Two months ago our Aussie was diagnosed with diabetes and put on an insulin regime. This is a VERY expensive treatment even with coupons for pharmacies. One vial of Humilin N cost anywhere from $165 - $185 before taxes and coupon if you have one from GoodRX. This vial lasts about one month. And this does not count all the glucose curves you have to take and the strips are sky high in price. Then you buy the syringes for $20/box.
Here is the good news: On getting my Rx filled at a Fred Meyer Pharmacy on Friday and pharmacist told me he could no longer sell me this insulin in good conscience because I was being ripped off on the price. He said there is another insulin, exactly the same thing as Humilin N called Novalin N or Novilin N. You can buy it over the counter at WalMart for $25.00. I was floored. I checked with my Vet and they did the research and confirmed it's the exact same drug. WalMart has some kind of a deal with the pharmaceutical company that manufacturers Novalin N. And, yes, it is $25!
I have never set foot in a WalMart but I am afraid I am going to have to in this case. This is simply astounding that you can purchase Insulin over the counter for such a discount. Checking to see if anyone here has had the same experience. Please spread the word to our canine and feline brothers and sisters.
Demonaut
(8,919 posts)the only thing I ever bought from that company
jonno99
(2,620 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)is 10.00 at Wal-Mart.
The people who bitch about shopping at Wal-Mart are entitled to do so .
the people who bitch at ME for shopping at Wal-Mart are entitled to do so when they buy my medicines for me.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)montanacowboy
(6,093 posts)you have to pay TAX because the drug is used for animal and not human consumption
it boggles the mind, especially in Washington State where the sales tax is 10%
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)thing a few weeks ago.
My husband has been diagnosed with steroid induced diabetes. When we first got the news I had NO IDEA how much testing supplies and insulin cost! I was completely in shock!
CVS the pharmacy that takes our insurance ( yes, he has insurance ) tried to charge me 350.00 for a bottle of insulin, 100.00 for testing strips, 100.00 for lancets and then 50.00 for syringes!
The diabetic educator told me the novlin 30/70 available at wally world with an RX for 25.00!!! Took myself right over there and paid WAY, WAAAAY less for all supplies and walked out feeling relieved!
No crazy about wally world but in this case it's a lifesaver.
lithiumbomb
(250 posts)The best insulin for my cat's flavor of Diabetes is Lantus U-100. It is not yet available as a generic, and I pay $285/vial at Walmart. By keeping it refrigerated I can make it last about 2-3 months before it is no longer effective (I have to keep an eye on his water input and urine output to gauge this). Syringes at walmart are $12 for 100 though, so there's that.
I'm hoping it becomes generic very soon. Lantus is popular for use in cats as it's simply very effective.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)for my dog. Wonder what it costs with ins. Hope I never find out.
RichVRichV
(885 posts)Switching to a brand that is low in carbs may help them with their diabetes.
montanacowboy
(6,093 posts)Grain Free either Venison or Buffalo expensive shit
HuckleB
(35,773 posts)I'm guessing the Humilin N is the most expensive option. There is a cheap pet only option, and a middle option for our cat, also pet only. We went with the middle option, but this is actually cheaper.
Thanks!
DawgHouse
(4,019 posts)She passed away in 2011. I had no idea the price had gone up so much.
REP
(21,691 posts)Lantus has no peak, like Humulin-N does - that why I use Lantus, too. My cat takes such a small dose we can share
Massacure
(7,525 posts)My dad had a terrible experience with NPH until he eventually started using an insulin pump (with rapid-acting insulin) in the early 90s.
Lantus came to market a couple of months before my brother was diagnosed with diabetes. My doctor originally wanted to prescribe NPH for my brother and my dad told the doctor "No, you are going to prescribe Lantus." The doctor had never heard of Lantus but must have done some research because because about two or three days later he called my dad back and said he was switching my brothers prescription.
REP
(21,691 posts)I'm DM2, and one of my oral meds has been strongly linked to bladder cancer (and there's a family history of that) and the other was not available for months - plus I'm in kidney failure from non-diabetic kidney disease, so I was switched to insulin. First I was on Humulin-N, which didn't seem to do much, especially when I need it, which is overnight; my liver dumps glucose and my fasting BG is horrible. Asked to be put on Lantus and my BG is steady all day - without the stomach pain I had with my oral meds.
We are cautiously optimistic that my cat is in remission; his A1c is normal and his other labs look good. He still gets tiny injections until we're completely sure.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)It works out to be significantly less expensive if you buy a box of pens instead of the vials. When we were first diagnosed, the vial was $108. The next time, I bought a box of 5 pens and it came to about $200 as I recall. BUT, they last much longer and wound up being much less expensive in the long run. You can use regular, inexpensive insulin syringes and just fill them from the pen. Saved me a lot of money over time.
The other advantage of Lantus for cats is that, in some cases, it can stimulate the feline pancreas and send them into remission, which it did for us for several extended periods.
I also bought her test strips on eBay and saved a bunch on those, too.
REP
(21,691 posts)I don't like those pen things and would rather use a needle for myself. It lasts a good long time opened at room temperature - I usually go through a vial in 30 days
Massacure
(7,525 posts)NPH Insulin is manufactured by both Novo Nordisk and Eli Lilly. Novo Nordisk calls their NPH insulin Novalin N, and Eli Lilly calls their NPH insulin Humalin N. Novo Nordisk originally invented it in 1936.
NPH is fairly cheap as far as insulin is concerned, but it behaves less predictably than newer insulins which makes dosing it more difficult. My dad used NPH until the late 80 and when my brother was diagnosed absolutely refused to let the doctor prescribe NPH for him.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)And never finished the vial. The old familiar spike followed by a crash was simply too difficult for me to manage, so back on Lantus. This graphic pretty well sums up why Lantus is the better choice for control, but obviously that is coming at a price.
REP
(21,691 posts)That is, DM2s who dump glucose overnight. No matter how carefully I calculated my dose, I was always high in the am. With Lantus I use the same amount and adjust the Regular dose if I'm sick or whatever. Wake up around 78 every day! Yay!
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)WillowTree
(5,325 posts)She was going through much more water than previously and it was going through her to the point where the box was a nightmare. I could clean it before I left for work in the morning and by the time I got home it would sometimes actually be puddled on top of the over-saturated litter in the end of the box where she urinated. And she was overweight, as well.
What I didn't realize until we got her on insulin and got her BG down was that another thing I might have noticed was that her coat had dried out. As soon as her numbers came back down into normal ranges, I noticed that her fur was so much softer and shinier than it had been. That became one of the things that I paid particular attention to when she was in remission so that I'd check her blood sugar if her coat started to feel drier.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)montanacowboy
(6,093 posts)condition, flaky, red skin, dry coat and overweight. When he started the excessive water intake I thought for sure it was tryroid but turned out to be diabetes. Now after two months on insulin his skin has totally cleared up, his coat is shiny and he has lost ten pounds. And now that we can actually afford his medication I keep my fingers crossed.
I do have problems doing a glucose curve, his numbers are crazy= I have used two different human meters so now I ordered a canine meter and hope to get a better reading. He gets two injections, every twelve hrs of 16 units.
REP
(21,691 posts)That's how I knew Stewie was diabetic. He was nearly dragging his hind feet and couldn't jump normally (he's a cat). It only took a few weeks on insulin and Vit B injections to have him walking and jumping normally.
What a shock, but it was manageable and he went into long remission periods twice. Cancer got him around 15-16 years old. Such a sweetheart. Miss that guy.
JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)We were also told we could use the same hypodermic twice in the same day if we refrigerated it in a clean container.
840high
(17,196 posts)much cheaper. I promise Wal-Mart won't bite you.
montanacowboy
(6,093 posts)I survived my first visit without any visible scarring
840high
(17,196 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)$19 for 100 strips versus $100+ for the name brand test strips. Really ludicrous, since I'm sure the production cost is pennies per strip.