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Eugene

(61,939 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:16 PM Apr 2016

Artist threatened with lawsuits if she sells nude Donald Trump painting

Source: The Guardian

Artist threatened with lawsuits if she sells nude Donald Trump painting

Illma Gore’s painting, on display at Maddox Gallery in London now
with a £1m pricetag, depicts the Republican presidential candidate
with a small penis


Patrick Greenfield
Sunday 17 April 2016 12.00 BST

An infamous nude of Donald Trump has attracted bids of over £100,000 after it went on display at the Maddox Gallery in Mayfair, London, last week, but the artist is being anonymously threatened with legal action if she sells it, due to its resemblance to the Republican presidential hopeful.

The piece by Illma Gore, titled Make America Great Again, depicts Trump with a small penis. It went viral in February after the artist published it on her Facebook page and has since been censored on social media sites and delisted from eBay after the anonymous filing of a Digital Millennium Copyright Act notice threatening to sue Gore.

The Maddox Gallery in London offered to exhibit the painting after galleries in the US refused to host the piece due to security concerns following threats of violence from Trump’s supporters. Hundreds of visitors have queued to see the work.

Gore said: “The reaction, especially in the UK, has been incredibly supportive. Everywhere apart from America has been great. Who knew it would be such a big deal? I think an artist’s job is to take the times we’re living in and then set the scene. It is a representation of where we are.”

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/17/nude-donald-trump-painting-illma-gore-lawsuits

Note: The link has the picture, small pecker and all.
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Artist threatened with lawsuits if she sells nude Donald Trump painting (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2016 OP
It will only appreciate in value malaise Apr 2016 #1
K&R lol! Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #14
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Apr 2016 #18
That's the only thing that can get larger... The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #30
Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahha malaise Apr 2016 #32
"He's bad—but he'll die—so I like it." MisterP Apr 2016 #2
Sell it in the US. Hustler magazine Inc v Falwell ? IADEMO2004 Apr 2016 #3
Getting so upset about art work? Why, Trump (or one of his supporters) truedelphi Apr 2016 #4
Oh my, that's quite petite lil fellow. nt procon Apr 2016 #5
Brings back an oldie but a goodie... pinboy3niner Apr 2016 #39
Damn that shrinkage! lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #61
"I don't know how you guys walk around with those things." louis-t Apr 2016 #83
EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! EW!!! Gomez163 Apr 2016 #6
Ditto! n/t Paper Roses Apr 2016 #7
Grrr! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #16
I'll have you know that we members ( heh heh Members!) of SPOA Mbrow Apr 2016 #8
Sorry, he's a public figure. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #9
And now he's a pubic figure. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #27
Even frivolous, meritless lawsuits cost money and time. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #71
Who's suing her, Trump, or the people whose eyes she injured with it? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #10
My vote: those that became violently ill after being exposed to this etherealtruth Apr 2016 #13
That's what I was trying to figure out. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #44
I'm Going To File A Lawsuit.... Laxman Apr 2016 #11
Did the artist title the painting? Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #12
"Make America Great Again" nt Eugene Apr 2016 #20
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY EYES!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! hatrack Apr 2016 #15
If she releases it, it will be the Day of the Triffids all over again. rug Apr 2016 #17
The BBC remade the Day Of The Triffids??? woooowwwww navarth Apr 2016 #22
Oh, yeah! Better than the original imo. rug Apr 2016 #24
Thanks! 2009....geez navarth Apr 2016 #28
Now I understand what a petit jury is for pinboy3niner Apr 2016 #19
Jurisdiction limited to 3 inches or less. rug Apr 2016 #25
Safe to say it won't be a hung jury Blue Owl Apr 2016 #50
That's a good one. classykaren Apr 2016 #63
Oh man! 2naSalit Apr 2016 #21
Suing across the pond? malaise Apr 2016 #33
Not unthinkable. 2naSalit Apr 2016 #35
A class action for blindness and insanity?? eom PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #23
P. Freakin' U. meow2u3 Apr 2016 #26
Trump will now have to drop trou to prove it. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #29
Whoever filed this lawsuit needs a crash course in "the Streisand Effect" Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #31
It hasn't been filed, yet. Might never be filed. Hair Drumpführer's followers love threats. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #36
If she can get a pay per view deal it could pay the National debt. NT Bozvotros Apr 2016 #78
Not if it's pay by the inch, I tell you what. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #79
She was generous with his hand size ... SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2016 #34
I wish the picture would be posted on the internet for the world to see. It is to bad that it is rladdi Apr 2016 #37
My niece posted it on Facebook a month ago. MoonchildCA Apr 2016 #59
But at least she made his gut big, very realistic! Kudos to Gore! Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #38
Lesson to the artist: don't mess with dicks! beastie boy Apr 2016 #40
What can a bird do that a man can't do? red dog 1 Apr 2016 #41
This was pretty funny too (linked at Guardian site): spooky3 Apr 2016 #42
Must not El Shaman Apr 2016 #43
Oh my I saw this and I had just eaten Chinese food had to gag. classykaren Apr 2016 #45
Oh Skinner....can we discuss a new avatar? Pretty please? Happyhippychick Apr 2016 #46
In all seriousness: Good painting but ,... reACTIONary Apr 2016 #47
'it is a representation of where we are' spanone Apr 2016 #48
Apparently "where we are" Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #57
I am exerting great effort to stifle my laughter... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #49
And the rest of the clown bus houston16revival Apr 2016 #53
"Simply put, you can be a massive prick, despite what is in your pants.". From her website uppityperson Apr 2016 #51
He might file a suit 2naSalit Apr 2016 #52
Riiiiight. LOL MynameisBlarney Apr 2016 #54
So this is OK when artist paints obama nudes ..... RR2 Apr 2016 #55
Pottymouth urinal is exceptional !!!!! K&R vkkv Apr 2016 #56
Anyone else notice he has no balls? bunnies Apr 2016 #58
I noticed. IrishEyes Apr 2016 #81
Well in his defense libodem Apr 2016 #60
The hands are too large. marble falls Apr 2016 #62
And to think I expected to see a picture of the artist. Gross! n/t Paper Roses Apr 2016 #64
First amendment rights? mwooldri Apr 2016 #65
That only applies to the government trying to silence you not a private citizen. cstanleytech Apr 2016 #67
Oh God robertgodardfromnj Apr 2016 #66
In this portrait greymattermom Apr 2016 #68
She must have a strong stomach. Vinca Apr 2016 #69
Oh Dear!! Now he thinks he's Muhammad! trailmonkee Apr 2016 #70
Artist is being threatened with a lawsuit truebluegreen Apr 2016 #72
And what if a conservative artist painted Hillary nude? davidn3600 Apr 2016 #73
Um…where are his balls? Demoiselle Apr 2016 #74
Can I sue for eye damage? nt lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #75
Or gastrointestinal... 3catwoman3 Apr 2016 #77
If there was ever a case for overcompensating for a small penis, Donald Trump is the poster Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #76
Why did I click on the link? IrishEyes Apr 2016 #80
Sorry, I know it's wrong but.... louis-t Apr 2016 #82

IADEMO2004

(5,559 posts)
3. Sell it in the US. Hustler magazine Inc v Falwell ?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:32 PM
Apr 2016

Do artists have less rights than magazines?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/485/46

Syllabus

Respondent, a nationally known minister and commentator on politics and public affairs, filed a diversity action in Federal District Court against petitioners, a nationally circulated magazine and its publisher, to recover damages for, inter alia, libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress arising from the publication of an advertisement "parody" which, among other things, portrayed respondent as having engaged in a drunken incestuous rendezvous with his mother in an outhouse. The jury found against respondent on the libel claim, specifically finding that the parody could not "reasonably be understood as describing actual facts . . . or events," but ruled in his favor on the emotional distress claim, stating that he should be awarded compensatory and punitive damages. The Court of Appeals affirmed, rejecting petitioners' contention that the "actual malice" standard of New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, must be met before respondent can recover for emotional distress. Rejecting as irrelevant the contention that, because the jury found that the parody did not describe actual facts, the ad was an opinion protected by the First Amendment to the Federal Constitution, the court ruled that the issue was whether the ad's publication was sufficiently outrageous to constitute intentional infliction of emotional distress.

Held: In order to protect the free flow of ideas and opinions on matters of public interest and concern, the First and Fourteenth Amendments prohibit public figures and public officials from recovering damages for the tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress by reason of the publication of a caricature such as the ad parody at issue without showing in addition that the publication contains a false statement of fact which was made with "actual malice," i.e., with knowledge that the statement was false or with reckless disregard as to whether or not it was true. The State's interest in protecting public figures from emotional distress is not sufficient to deny First Amendment protection to speech that is patently offensive and is intended to inflict emotional injury when that speech could not reasonably have been interpreted as stating actual facts about the public figure involved. Here, respondent is clearly a "public figure" for First Amendment purposes, and the lower courts' finding that the ad parody was not reasonably believable must be accepted. "Outrageousness" [p47] in the area of political and social discourse has an inherent subjectiveness about it which would allow a jury to impose liability on the basis of the jurors' tastes or views, or perhaps on the basis of their dislike of a particular expression, and cannot, consistently with the First Amendment, form a basis for the award of damages for conduct such as that involved here. Pp. 50-57.

797 F.2d 1270, reversed.

REHNQUIST, C.J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which BRENNAN, MARSHALL, BLACKMUN, STEVENS, O'CONNOR, and SCALIA, JJ., joined. WHITE, J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment, post, p. 57. KENNEDY, J., took no part in the consideration or decision of the case.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
4. Getting so upset about art work? Why, Trump (or one of his supporters)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

Is no better than those Muslim terrorists they always go on about.

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
8. I'll have you know that we members ( heh heh Members!) of SPOA
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:51 PM
Apr 2016

( small penises of American) are tired of being made fun of! We demand equal rights for small peckers and pecker heads like the Donald!

Act_of_Reparation

(9,116 posts)
71. Even frivolous, meritless lawsuits cost money and time.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

Wealthy plaintiffs with crack shot lawyers can really draw a case out and cost the defendant oodles in legal fees.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
13. My vote: those that became violently ill after being exposed to this
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

I clicked on the link and am now en route to the ER

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
11. I'm Going To File A Lawsuit....
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:55 PM
Apr 2016

over that painting! Now there's something you just can't un-see. There are some things better left to the imagination and then there are things you shouldn't even imagine. I think this painting covers both of those categories.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
12. Did the artist title the painting?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 04:56 PM
Apr 2016



This truly is funny. Not for him, I am sure of that.
If he wasn't such an idiot things like this would not happen.

Good thing the artist is not a US citizen.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
22. The BBC remade the Day Of The Triffids??? woooowwwww
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:12 PM
Apr 2016

when did this happen? gotta check it out.

thanks

navarth

(5,927 posts)
28. Thanks! 2009....geez
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

when you don't watch much TV you miss a few things you wouldn't want to miss. Looks like I found one.

Ever read the book? Wyndham was quite the sci fi author.

I'm still fond of the old Howard Keel version, probably because it scared me when I was a kid.

Thanks again, much appreciated

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
21. Oh man!
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

I can only imagine that those who go to see it are there to point at the sensitive part and have a riotous laugh!!

He can't sue her over a piece of art, if it were a photo he would have had to sign a release for it to be used in public but I don't think that applies to a painting! Bugger off, Donald!

Guess this also proves that he really IS a short-fingered vulgarian!!

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
35. Not unthinkable.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

I suspect it's happened before. And then, lest we forget what he did to an entire community in Scotland... he thinks that because he is driven by $$ and narcissism, that anyone can be bought or bullied with $$.

I hope that painting sells for $2million pounds and is on display every time he darkens the skies of the island by going there. In fact, I hope it is reproduced in post card format and spread widely, I'd buy a small stack and send them to him, one a month, with the teenyweeny circled in gold pen and asking, "Which head is smaller?"

Postcards are great! Hope there will be some soon!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. Whoever filed this lawsuit needs a crash course in "the Streisand Effect"
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 05:34 PM
Apr 2016

Unless she filed it against herself, in which case she's freakin brilliant.

rladdi

(581 posts)
37. I wish the picture would be posted on the internet for the world to see. It is to bad that it is
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:01 PM
Apr 2016

censored by social media.

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
41. What can a bird do that a man can't do?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 06:41 PM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Eat with his pecker.


Q..What can Donald Trump do that a bird can't do?

A. Make an ass out of himself every time he opens his stupid, ugly, racist mouth.

3catwoman3

(24,038 posts)
49. I am exerting great effort to stifle my laughter...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 09:02 PM
Apr 2016

...so I do not have to explain to my 94 yr old mom, whom I am visiting, just what I am laughing at.

She is a retired nurse, who has seen and done a lot, so she might actually get a few chuckles out of it, too.

Did you ever, ever, EVER think that penis size would come up, so to speak, in a presidential debate? SMH!!!

houston16revival

(953 posts)
53. And the rest of the clown bus
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:30 AM
Apr 2016

followed him into that gutter

instead of being GOP prim and proper

There seem no boundaries anymore

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
52. He might file a suit
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 11:46 PM
Apr 2016

doesn't mean it will be heard. They aren't too keen on him and his antics. I'd sell it anyway, F him. It's not his, it's not a photo, he has absolutely no say in what happens to the painting. I hope she makes enough out of it tolife in comfort the rest of her life.

RR2

(87 posts)
55. So this is OK when artist paints obama nudes .....
Mon Apr 18, 2016, 11:51 AM
Apr 2016

Yes an artist named Dan Lacey a pro-life right wing conservative was spitting them out at a record pace making a buck ya know free market capitalism and all that . Oh did I mention his pseudonym was Freeper Dan at Free Republic!



More here.....
https://www.etsy.com/shop/DanLacey?search_query=Obama

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
67. That only applies to the government trying to silence you not a private citizen.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:24 AM
Apr 2016

The artist though probably could counter sue who is trying to block them from potentially selling the painting as a parody of Trump which is protected.

 
66. Oh God
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:19 AM
Apr 2016

Trump's penis is the LAST thing I'd like to think about. And people are threatening lawsuits? Ridiculous.

trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
70. Oh Dear!! Now he thinks he's Muhammad!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:59 AM
Apr 2016

You have got to admit he has balls.... Wait, I just looked at the painting, I take that last part back

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
72. Artist is being threatened with a lawsuit
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:54 AM
Apr 2016

"...due to its resemblance to the Republican presidential hopeful."






What resemblance might that be, one wonders.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
80. Why did I click on the link?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:55 AM
Apr 2016

Now I have an image of a naked donald trump. And I was eating at the time. I've lost my appetite.

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