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New York drivers might get mandatory 'textalyzer' phone scans
by Jose Pagliery @Jose_Pagliery April 14, 2016: 6:30 PM ET
Textalyzers will help NYPD to determine if drivers were distracted by using their phones before an accident
If a proposed law passes the state legislature in New York, then drivers might soon be subject to on-the-spot analysis of their mobile phones to determine whether they were distracted by their devices in the run-up to accidents.
This new device called a textalyzer will help police determine whether drivers involved in the crash were being unlawfully distracted by their mobile phone.
New York Senator Terrence Murphy and Assembly Assistant Speaker Felix Ortiz have partnered with Distracted Operators Risk Casualties (DORC), an awareness organization, to propose a bill that would allow authorities to examine phones at an accident site.
(cont.) http://www.techworm.net/2016/04/police-get-textalyzers-check-phone-distracted-driving.html
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Journeyman
(15,038 posts)by distracted drivers. If there's reliable technology that can expose this on-the-spot, maybe it'll make all the idiots who text while driving reconsider such a hazardous act.
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)We need something to prove it
I say a am sure because I looked in my mirror seconds before the collision and saw that she had her head down. Never saw me and hit me at 45 MPH.
I couldn't prove anything though.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Im sure nothing was done because there isnt much to do.
She already got a ticket for the wreck, had her insurance go up, and probably paid a large deductable on her insurance.
Would a 100 ticket have made that big of a difference.
liberal N proud
(60,344 posts)My insurance company took care of me, then went after her.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Then a Starbucksalyzer to see if they were distracted by a $6 candy coffee drink.
Then a radioalyzer to make sure they weren't changing radio stations before the wreck.
Wilms
(26,795 posts)Actually, skip the last one.
Igel
(35,356 posts)The others, not so much. Largely because they're much less common and tend not to occupy quite such long stretches of time.
Next up: Encryption that protects cell phones from being analyzed. "Sorry, officer, you can try to analyze my phone's text records, but they're encrypted. Gee, I guess you have no evidence. Sorry about the dead old person. It was an accident, I was paying attention the whole time. Oh. It's a kid. Didn't notice."
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)All I meant was that texting is just the latest thing to distract you.
I don't get the cars that have the touchscreen computers right there in the console. That's asking for trouble as well.
Instead of testing or seizing the phone, subpoena the records to see if there were an accident in the middle of back and forth texting.
I fully expect technology to move us passed texting with our fingers while looking at the phone and before too long only voice texting and having the texts read to you by the car will be the norm.
drm604
(16,230 posts)I suppose that you could have a texting app that doesn't record times, but that wouldn't involve encryption.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)would love to see these arrogant assholes get nailed for their negligence
Logical
(22,457 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)My phone reads and sends texts hands free in the car. How would this work with that?
ecstatic
(32,731 posts)I'd have to be parked.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Use of hands-free mobile phones should be banned for drivers, as well.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Bring on the self driving cars cause this crap is getting ridiculous.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)I think you're making shit up.
There are plenty of studies that show conclusively, that using a cell phone while driving, dramatically increases the likelihood of an accident, perhaps even more so than consuming alcohol.
Anyone who kills or injures someone, as a result of texting and driving, should have the book thrown at them.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)[Xi plans to run the word with Chinese satellites. This looks like more Chinese bullshit on US soil to me]
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)people who think they can drive and use the phone at the same time (and that they should have a right to). Hands-free mobile phone use (whether a voice call or hands-free texting) is just as much of a distraction and just as likely to cause an accident...again, there are studies: http://tti.tamu.edu/2013/04/23/voice-to-text-apps-offer-no-driving-safety-benefit-as-with-manual-texting-reaction-times-double/
So, you know, if you think you should be able to use a phone while driving anyway? You're either an idiot, or an asshole (there really isn't a third option there).
Egnever
(21,506 posts)not really a test of voice to text. My phone can be in my pocket and I never have to touch it. Not a valid study for the voice texting I am talking about.
from the study
each task, the experimenter pressed the S key to flag the data stream
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)again, totally hands-free is just as distracting.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Directly from the study you linked....
each task, the experimenter pressed the S key to flag the data stream
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Study above from AAA finds that using speech-to-text is more distracting than using a handheld phone (the text-to-speech device in this case being hands-free, as described in the study):
Egnever
(21,506 posts)if you look at the results (I would copy them here but they don't format well.)
You will notice that test after test performance of hands free texting was equivalent to having a passenger in the car.
Or are you suggesting we should outlaw passengers as well?
Another thing of note the differences in reaction times were all under 100 milliseconds a period of time so small you cant even notice it under normal circumstances.
I love the way you keep changing studies though then claiming I am wrong about what the previous study documents.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Which basically makes the whole thing moot. As apparently daydreaming is worse than using the in car entertainment system. All of the systems came in under 5.
YouDig
(2,280 posts)Texting while driving is much worse than just talking on the phone. You have to be looking at your phone for long enough to put together the message, it's not just about being distracted.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)My phone does not require me to touch it. So not really valid studies.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)please
Egnever
(21,506 posts)and address the points made by them instead of not reading past the headline.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)If you are that phone dickted turn it off before putting vehicle in gear...
My new hobby is seeing people next to me sit still when the light turns green. One one-thousand, Two one-thousand, Three one-thousand. HOOOOONK! They look behind them then left and right, then usually jet...
Lesson learned- one idiot at a time
Egnever
(21,506 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)I'm half tempted to have a flashing neon sign the back door side windows of my truck-
STOP TEXTING ASSHOLE!
Illegal in some states, have to check Texas law
Egnever
(21,506 posts)As hands free texting and having a passenger in the car produce roughly equivalent results in reaction times.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Egnever
(21,506 posts)A little discouraged that people don't read past click bait headlines perhaps but I have grown fairly used to that after the years here.
On a side note texting manually while driving is clearly dangerous. I have no argument with that whatsoever. I do want to know how they will differentiate that from hands free with this law as the research from the studies linked by my detractors in this thread show it is no more distracting than a passenger and sometimes less.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Slope- goes - down-
Pretty easy for cops to figure out texting-while-driving accidents as it is though... NO BRAKING!
Orrex
(63,223 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Sure Ill hand you my phone. Too bad its locked. Go get a search warrant.
Imstead their response is to pull my drivers liscense, so Im guilty until proven innocent.
Easier option. Dont tell the cops you have a phone. Dont lue, just dont answer the question. Or keep your old phone on you. No text on this phone since 2014.