to Congress.

But he's always been a leader in gay rights.

Your ignorance and contempt for a great man reflects poorly on you.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/03/16/393252976/barney-franks-journey-from-closeted-to-an-openly-gay-member-of-congress

In 1972, former Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., decided he would run for the state Legislature in Massachusetts — but he also explicitly decided to stay in the closet. And as he made this decision, he made a promise to himself to support LGBT rights.

"I could not live with myself if I did not oppose the discrimination," Frank tells Fresh Air's Terry Gross.

That year, two organizations asked candidates for the state Legislature if they would sponsor a gay rights bill. Frank says he enthusiastically agreed, expecting a senior member to take the lead.

"I was a little afraid of [being out front] because I was 32, unmarried — other people would draw inferences," Frank says.

But Frank was the only member who won who said he'd sponsor the bill, so he did take the lead. Throughout that decade, Frank became an increasingly active and prominent leader of gay rights.

SNIP

so, instead of just accepting his right to choose and ignoring him, he should be attacked and lies spread about him at every opportunity?

"We're not perfect, but they're crazy." Barney meant the Republicans, but he could just as easily been talking about the Far Left's Fatal Attraction syndrome.

explain. Which stance on issues do Sanders supporters take that places them to the "far left". Telling that you see them to YOUR far left.

As far as the issue, Clinton supported marriage equality a few years ago. If this is between her and Sanders on the issue, he wins. Frank can support Clinton, but it can't be because of that issue. He recently joined a bank and his partner has a background in the industry. That has more to do with his support than this issue.

Bernie supporters, including the radical minority I'm talking about.

It's the BEHAVIOR of some. Fortunately, they are a minority, but like the far right, they are so aggressive and hostile toward all who are not with them, so dishonest about what others believe, and so unable to respect or cooperate with others that this extreme obnoxiousness gives them a presence all out of proportion to their numbers.

Fortunately for America, most of Bernie's supporters are actually liberals with at least one and often both feet on the ground.

As for that issue, I've always been for marriage equality, and Hillary's religious views and how they have shaped her positions through her life are something that I will vote for her in spite of. Because she is a liberal who shares most of my principles and goals, she is knowledgeable and competent, she is electable, and she is far and away my more desirable choice for president.

have you been paying attention to how Clinton supporters have talked to Sanders supporters? Not just online, in forums like this (which is horrible, dismissive and arrogant), but in the media. They pretend that his supporters are uniformed, talk down to them, then lecture others about how change happens (and do so in ways that are a-historic in the extreme). Not only that, but people are angry with politicians and people that want to maintain an inequitable and corrupt system. Wages haven't grown for most in over a generation, both parties' trade policies have decimated working people, inequality has exploded, infrastructure has collapsed, etc. Think that is why people are angry? Not only that, but the left's ideas are popular and have proven to work. Clinton, on the other hand, was instrumental in dragging your party to the right on economic issues, rose up with Walmart money, has been given along with her husband over three billion dollars from corporate interests, banks are her largest donors, and she has supported pretty damn right wing economic policies. Throw in the fact that she is not liked (if she runs against someone other than Trump she will have the highest net negatives of any major candidate since polling began), does worse with independents, polls worse than he does versus the Republicans, and is not trusted.

"she is electable"

No, she isn't. If she runs against anyone other than Trump, she is one scandal away from losing. She does worse than he does versus Republicans and has the same problems with likability that I mentioned.

We aren't going to change each others' minds, think what you want.

when she left her job at the State Department.

The fact that he was a few years ahead on same sex marriage is inconsequential. Till he publicly came out on behalf of same sex marriage, he said that it was a states rights issue and that states like Vermont that only wanted civil unions should be able to have them. He evolved just like Hillary, just a few years ahead of her. Good for him but not that big a deal. Especially since Hillary had already given her ground-breaking gay rights speech at the U.N.

isn't just about marriage. I could post a link about his pro-LGBT policies going back decades, but that would not be the point either. Frank does not support her because of that issue, she isn't better than he has been on the issue. He supports her for other reasons. He has benefited from the system, just as he has, and doesn't want to see that system change as a result. He also works for a bank and his partner works in the industry as well. The bankers and financial interests like Clinton for obvious reasons.

How telling that the one of the names in the Dodd-Frank bill now works for a bank while the other is now a registered lobbyist. If that isn't illustrative of why the system is rotten, I don't know what is.

issue. Those are the facts.

says 'thanks for being first, too bad you are the worst!' to Barney ever since he sold out the transgender community over his support of a non inclusive ENDA.
I don't care for people who see my transgender brothers and sisters as separate or apart from our community and current events in NC and other places strongly highlight why we must stand as that which we are, one community seeking equality from a majority community that is very willing to mistreat us all.

He's old school, establishment and his sister Ann works for Hillary since forever and ever. You do the math. The LGBT community did that math long, long ago.

I appreciate the info, thank you

they forget former Rep. Frank's hard work in the House to push for LGBT civil and equal rights. Shameful of them.

Your homophobia is slipping.

"I can't answer that" and "WHAT ARE THE RULES, MODERATOR WHAT ARE THE RULES" over and over again aren't acceptable answers.




BTW Barney sits on the board of a bank.


It's the first time the co-author of the landmark Dodd-Frank reform law has joined a bank since leaving Congress two years ago.



http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20150617/BLOGS02/150619877/barney-frank-joins-signature-bank-board

What a lame ass act.

Of course Hillary supporters are all over Twitter calling Nina Turner "angry" and "loud" because God forbid a black woman kick an old white mans ass in a debate.

Regardless of who wins, there is a new generation of young thinking people who care about the future & I don't think they're going away.

and I prefer Bernie

Well, that's when he wasn't actually lying.

"Lawrence what about the rules for interruptions!!??"

"Lawrence!!"

"Lawrence!!"

Nina K.O.

People aren't going to forget the lies & disingenuineness generated by her campaign/surrogates. They're making a huuuuge mistake, clueless as they are about Bernie Sanders & his supporters.

Squandering a new generation of voters is what we're witnessing.

He has lost my respect in recent years.

He's an insider.

I don't waste my sympathies on sellouts.

What a fucking douchebag

Well done, such a beautifully sculpted argument obviously penned with as much neural activity as possible. Keep it up and you might actually learn to craft a full paragraph.

You think that is ok to use the word like "whore" and "filth" when describing people who are Democrats. It's not ok. You can't make your arguments without insults, then your argument has no merit.

filth is ugly but whore is much much worse and a direct insult toward me

When I get to my computer, I'll post a link to the alert of your post.

I look forward to seeing it, thanks.

for all the people being tossed under this thing.

goes and becomes a director of one.

I was really having fun watching Barney destroy Turner. She is a real lightweight

She couldn't get elected to anything and now she's a "TV personality". Bernie may have few supporters, except for his followers, but the ones he does have are losers.

"expert" om MSNBC.

I used to pretend sympathy and pity when someone supported a different candidate as well. Sure, it's an absurd form of cowering behind implication-- but this is the primary season, and our convictions become modeled on those of a jellyfish rather than the strength of our own beliefs.

Yours was a most accurate and entertaining example of that.

On display by Sander's representative. And, I would say, O'Donnell seemed to be exhibiting the same thing. Senator Frank made many good points, but the other two were obviously not interested in listening at all. O'Donnell especially, should be ashamed of his behavior.

He let her speak uninterrupted, but when he had his turn, she was all over him. How dare he???

He's morphed into a caricature of what he used to be