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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn Kansas, lawmakers lose patience with governor's tax cuts
After he became Kansas governor in 2011, Sam Brownback slashed personal income taxes on the promise that the deep cuts would trigger a furious wave of hiring and expansion by businesses.
But the "shot of adrenaline" hasn't worked as envisioned, and the state budget has been in crisis ever since. Now many of the same Republicans who helped pass Brownback's plan are in open revolt, refusing to help the governor cut spending so he can avoid rolling back any of his signature tax measures.
If Brownback won't reconsider any of the tax cuts, they say, he will have to figure out for himself how to balance the budget in the face of disappointing revenue.
"Let him own it," Republican Rep. Mark Hutton said. "It's his policy that put us there."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kansas-lawmakers-lose-patience-governors-tax-cuts-055057812.html
Another Republican economic miracle.
malthaussen
(17,199 posts)And what vote did you cast, pray?
-- Mal
2naSalit
(86,635 posts)fully and openly participate in thrashing everything in sight and then blame it all on someone else when it all hits the fan. Everyone of these thugs with an (R) behind their name totally OWN this.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)for as long as they could, now they have to pay attention to protecting their jobs from the voters. As long as Charles Koch allows; after all, this is Koch-land.
"Cynically" because the Laffer curve scam that cutting taxes on business will result in more money in the government kitty while also creating more jobs than otherwise has failed every time it's used, but voters keep buying it and it keeps the wealth transfer going, so hard conservatives (the only kind in government in Kansas) keep selling it.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)2naSalit
(86,635 posts)that's so blatantly obvious anymore it's a wonder that anyone still buys that rubbish.
deminks
(11,014 posts)rather than use it for expansion.
The ole trickle down the leg sham. P*ssing on my head and tell me it's raining sham. Where are the Kochs now, Sammy? Where is ALEC with the solution to save your ass and make you a GOPer hero and run for Pretzeldente?
Incidently, the farmers and business owners in Brownbackistan are not your family owned genre. There aren't any of those anymore.
GOPers are bad for Kansas, and they are bad for America.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)The rich pocket the tax cuts. The reality is, if the rich have a high tax rate, they're more likely to invest in their own business and in hiring - that way, the investment into their business helps offset their higher tax rates.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)an ever-diminishing return when you can hire someone else to do it for you, giving you tax benefits, good PR and saving you the headache of doing everything yourself?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)broadcaster75201
(387 posts)I do not care about the suffering in Red States. Period. I don't care, I won't care. You elect Conservatives and you get what you get. Let 'em rot. I am singularly without an ounce of empathy.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)I prefer to reach out and did USS what happened with anyone from the state. I would rather show compassion and help guide them to a way of digging out of the mess.
I'm a Democrat. It's my responsibility to help others when I can, regardless of how they got there. When those with the most awful problems do better, we all do better.
Beartracks
(12,814 posts)... define the problems and "solutions."
I agree, this must be a teaching moment so that Kansans, and the rest of the country, can learn that trickle down is a myth. If we just let 'am hang, tho, under the misguided presumption that they will eventually figure out on their own what they did wrong (e.g. foolishly elected Republicans), that just gives the Republican machine and media time to spin their own tale of blame targeting the poor, minorities, "liberals," the usual crap.
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saturnsring
(1,832 posts)like in ohio not all of us voted for kasick
azureblue
(2,146 posts)I see the point of letting red states suffer the consequences of their actions. Maybe the voters will learn a hard lesson - the Repubs learn to not vote for these crooks and the Democrats will learn to get their asses out of their chairs and vote. And raise holy hell when their reps pass these crazy laws.
My two cents is this: The GOp has been a fiscal failure for decades now. And, for decades, all the way back to Reagan, there has been a distinct pattern: A crooked GOPer runs for office and gets elected (and Dem turnout is low, and easily fooled Repub voters vote), they get into office and proceed to line their pockets and the pockets of their rich friends and benefactors with public money, tax breaks, etc., then waltz out of office, leaving a smoking ruin they created behind (ala Little Bush). Their replacement is Democrat who spends his or her term cleaning up the mess they were left, and getting the budget back in the black, and the country growing again again. Then a GOPer starts attacking the Democrat and gets elected to office where they ---back to the beginning...
Yes, it's for the good of the people for the Dems to save them from the GOP messes, but how many times do we have to repeat this pattern before "the people" wake up? It is effing obvious that "the people: aren't learning a damn thing,so that is why I believe to just let the process go to its conclusion and not save them.... Yeah, it's cold, I agree. But how else will these thick headed voters learn?
lark
(23,102 posts)Yes, there are quite a few low information, high religious voters in red states that fuck over themselves. However, they also fuck over the people that vote Democratic as well. There's also vote stealing and switching that happens totally against the will of the people.
I live in red (for everything state related) FL. Me and my family and friends always vote for the progressive Democrat and it doesn't matter because our state Dem party is toothless and led by DWS who likes FL Repugs better than FL Dems. Do we deserve Rick Scott, hell no! Did he basically steal the last election by drowning out every other ad, yes. That's all you heard on TV and radio for a month before the election. It was totally ridiculous.
aka-chmeee
(1,132 posts)I only hope you are appropriately rewarded for your hubris...At which time I....WILL.....NOT.....CARE.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Did we therefore deserve what we got?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Let Kansas and any others that yearn for this lunacy, BASK in the glory of their own fecal grandeur!
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)The country needs an example to point to about the failures of the right wing tax policy.
Democat
(11,617 posts)Millions of dollars spent showing America how well Republican policies really work would be money well spent.
padfun
(1,786 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)hit for raising taxes. This time, looks like Gov. Sam will have to own it, esp. if the legislature will not further cut expenditures.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)The part he neglected to mention is that the economic expansion was in Panama.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)when he got into office, at the federal and state level....................................so now that you are whining, "you own it"............................"all of you" own that put this right wing legislature and this right wing hack into office, granted not all of you, but..................your pie in the sky functioning hypocrisy is coming home to roost, and lets' not forget the Sec. of State, he is just like this hypocrite---------------my advice take pay cuts from yourself first and foremost-----------------you made your bed, look in the mirror and look at who caused this "experiment" of Ayn Rand..............................now clean it up.........................
And just a friendly reminder.....................your state was made into a Thomas Frank movie...................
This is his record, this a fact........................................
http://www.ontheissues.org/Sam_Brownback.htm
Honk----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
AxionExcel
(755 posts)...except for elite fat-cat Repubes (R). A crying shame the working class proles of the Fox & Rush & etc. Propaganda Universes (R) cannot catch a freaking clue about how badly they have been screwed by their Repube Overlords. More more more Prole Screwage lies ahead.
Phlem
(6,323 posts)from pulling the same fucking stunt.
See, Bill, Obama, Hillary.
gordianot
(15,238 posts)In Brownback's case lemmings might be appropriate and would also work well in Michigan, North Carolina, Presidential Primaries etc etc.
Sam_Fields
(305 posts)The republican legislators also own it.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Unfortunately, they're powerless to do anything to remedy the situation. At least, that's what the legislators will tell their constituents. Then they cross their fingers and hope that a majority of voters go to the polls and believe that out-and-out lie, and return these irresponsible sleazebuckets to office.
SharonAnn
(13,775 posts)Phlem
(6,323 posts)votes, and law making through corporations, forever. Nothing will change because Corporations are people my friend. The
Democratic party is fighting tooth and nail to get another Corporate politician elected, guess who.
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)Illinois wants to join but the Democrats won't let it happen. Every where that Trickle Down theory is tried it has failed miserably.
Compared to California which has taxed the rich, has a huge budget surplus after having a deficit from Arnold.
a2liberal
(1,524 posts)Spelling intentional
hatrack
(59,587 posts)Rep. Mark Hutton can suck my ass.
The House passed the largest tax increase in Kansas history in the dark hours of Friday morning clawing past tears and fatigue to
endorse a measure to fill the states budget hole after the governor warned of imminent fiscal calamity.
EDIT
Republicans had been divided in recent days into several factions. One of the major points of contention among the unofficial caucuses were over whether to make changes to tax breaks for business owners. The exemptions, which shield owners from having the pay income tax on nonwage income, have been fiercely defended by Brownback. Through his subordinates, Brownback had issued a public veto threat that he will veto legislation that raises business taxes.
In the end, those pushing for changes lost. Rep. Mark Hutton, R-Wichita, led a faction of Republicans who had pushed for changes. On Wednesday, he conceded his efforts had faltered this year and he voted in favor of tax bills during debates on Thursday and Friday.
Though dozens of Republicans in the end voted to raise taxes, they wrung their hands at the same time, often making a point of voicing their displeasure with the legislation. Rep. John Whitmer, R-Wichita, spoke through tears as he explained his yes vote. I voted for something I am not proud of, Whitmer said, but I feel its what the folks need.
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http://cjonline.com/news/2015-06-12/house-breaks-gridlock-narrowly-approves-tax-increases-early-friday-morning-vote