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Botany

(70,508 posts)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:21 PM Apr 2016

$130,000 from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar’s checking account to the (9-11) hijackers

How the US covered up Saudi role in 9/11


http://nypost.com/2016/04/17/how-us-covered-up-saudi-role-in-911/

In its report on the still-censored “28 pages” implicating the Saudi government in 9/11, “60 Minutes”
last weekend said the Saudi role in the attacks has been “soft-pedaled” to protect America’s delicate
alliance with the oil-rich kingdom.

snip

" ...$130,000 from then-Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar’s family checking account to yet another
of the hijackers’ Saudi handlers ..."

snip

“The Saudi ambassador funded two of the 9/11 hijackers through a third party,” Guandolo said. “He
should be treated as a terrorist suspect, as should other members of the Saudi elite class who the US
government knows are currently funding the global jihad.”

snip

After he met on Sept. 13, 2001, with President Bush in the White House, where the two old family friends
shared cigars on the Truman Balcony, the FBI evacuated dozens of Saudi officials from multiple cities,
including at least one Osama bin Laden family member on the terror watch list. Instead of interrogating
the Saudis, FBI agents acted as security escorts for them, even though it was known at the time that 15
of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens.

*******

I know this has been posted before but everybody needs to know this information and we need
those 28 pages from the 9-11 report released ASAP.

R good buddies the Saudis


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$130,000 from Saudi Ambassador Prince Bandar’s checking account to the (9-11) hijackers (Original Post) Botany Apr 2016 OP
12 year old story but it still burns me up every time I hear it. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #1
Me, too. I'm afraid this will go the way of information on Laurian Apr 2016 #3
Read Suskind's book, The Price of Loyalty on Paul O'Neill's memories of the Bush adminisration. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #56
For those of us who need to be teased... IthinkThereforeIAM Apr 2016 #74
Great. It's a good quote. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #97
Here is a better quote: Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #114
Do you mean Bandar Bush? gordianot Apr 2016 #2
yup! ..... nice picture and article @ the link Botany Apr 2016 #5
I seem to remember him meeting brother George after he got off his long 9/11 flight. gordianot Apr 2016 #7
Where is Bandar these days? Laurian Apr 2016 #8
Hard times probably not allowed in the front door of the Whitehouse. gordianot Apr 2016 #10
+1 Matariki Apr 2016 #27
This Bandar Bush? Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #57
That is a real smacker. gordianot Apr 2016 #64
MIHOP was always nuts, but LIHOP is very possible snooper2 Apr 2016 #4
George Bush, "He kept us safe." Botany Apr 2016 #6
So. Hillary supported him and people are going to vote for her again. Phlem Apr 2016 #12
Please stop hijacking every thread with anti Hillary posts. Laurian Apr 2016 #29
Um no as Phlem Apr 2016 #46
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #76
your completely ridiculous. Phlem Apr 2016 #79
what is ridiculous is you injecting hillary in this saturnsring Apr 2016 #82
Wow, your even more ridiculous for not acknowledging Phlem Apr 2016 #91
Please stop asking everyone to sweep FoxNewsSucks Apr 2016 #54
this isnt questionable of hillary saturnsring Apr 2016 #81
yes it is! n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #87
the post IS very pertinent to the OP! wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #86
Yes some of us are, but I haven't found many Clinton supporters that will discuss issues. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #94
I tend to think Dubya's actions smelled more of MIHOP than LIHOP. Jerry442 Apr 2016 #51
GWB admin went out of the way to antagonize them bigbrother05 Apr 2016 #55
They think we have collective amnesia Generic Other Apr 2016 #100
That's the plan. Octafish Apr 2016 #117
We've bombed countries for less KansDem Apr 2016 #9
kick MariaThinks Apr 2016 #11
GWB should be in prison. lastone Apr 2016 #13
his whole administration should be in jail-- they are all war criminals Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #15
when you see any one of these people on the street call them treasonous bastards lastone Apr 2016 #16
Just capitalists if you listen to America. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #77
Democrats have a dominant pro-war faction too egalitegirl Apr 2016 #112
tell me about it... and one of our biggest warmongers is on her way to becoming our nominee Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #113
That picture really pisses me off Botany Apr 2016 #21
all for the love of oil lastone Apr 2016 #24
FUCK SAUDI ARABIA. Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #14
when they have you by the b*lls what can you do saturnsring Apr 2016 #83
Then Prince Bandar and Dubya libodem Apr 2016 #17
Yup avaistheone1 Apr 2016 #20
Word! libodem Apr 2016 #22
Obscene. nt thereismore Apr 2016 #25
Criminals, each one! Hague for all those war criminals! Hague for the murderers! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #66
If our government is willing to risk nyabingi Apr 2016 #18
On the morning of 9-11 Dick Cheney was helping to run simulated war games that had ... Botany Apr 2016 #37
thank you. n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #88
I think the moral of the story is if nyabingi Apr 2016 #115
omg, if true, my worst fears saidsimplesimon Apr 2016 #19
Bush warned about bin Laden and hid aboard destroyer at Genoa G-8 Summit in JULY 2001 Octafish Apr 2016 #118
For payment to the Saudi's and Bin Laden justgamma Apr 2016 #23
Well, w said in public that he had quit looking for bin Laden in 2005 which is the same time ... Botany Apr 2016 #28
it's like how they kept slamming the door on DEA offices in Panama and Tegucigalpa MisterP Apr 2016 #60
Laws Are For Little People - The People That Run The Planet Have No Laws scottie55 Apr 2016 #26
the Clintons are right there with the Bushes. WDIM Apr 2016 #35
hypothetical 90-percent Apr 2016 #30
yeah, Truth, Justice and the Saudi Way. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #33
They are Clinton Foundation Donors as well WDIM Apr 2016 #31
What the hell is wrong with our government? This stuff needs to be revealed and addressed! EndElectoral Apr 2016 #32
WHY would the Saudis do this? scottie55 Apr 2016 #34
Read Ron Suskind's book based on the memoires of Paul O'Neill, Bush's Treasury Secretary, JDPriestly Apr 2016 #52
To give Bush and Clinton power to justify the WDIM Apr 2016 #38
That's how a person with normal morality and conscience reacts lostnfound Apr 2016 #111
Bandar...yep. haikugal Apr 2016 #36
President Bush 'shared cigars' and assisted the escape of 9-11 pilots funders. Did he know pilots Sunlei Apr 2016 #39
He had to have known Botany Apr 2016 #44
August 6, 2001: President Bush Tells CIA Regarding Bin Laden Warning, ‘You’ve Covered Your Ass, Now saturnsring Apr 2016 #84
Bush's Number One Job Was Covering Up After The Attack They Let Happen On Purpose scottie55 Apr 2016 #40
And Would That Be the Same "Bandar Bush" montanacowboy Apr 2016 #41
Yup Bandar Bush is an intimate Repube crony AxionExcel Apr 2016 #43
Doing whatever they could to KEEP OIL ALIVE (even if the rest of us die from it). nt valerief Apr 2016 #42
Thanks for posting. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #45
Not so fast -- consider the source OldRedneck Apr 2016 #47
Yikes. That is one messed-up dude. RiverNoord Apr 2016 #95
Bush Family Best Friend billhicks76 Apr 2016 #48
James R Bath connects Bush, bin Laden, Petrodollars, BCCI & BFEE. Octafish Apr 2016 #119
$130,000 from Saudi Ambassador and 9/11/01 hijackers. Mesee Apr 2016 #49
The oil was obvious, this just (on edit) Phlem Apr 2016 #50
George W Bush was not elected. He was appointed by the US Supreme Court. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2016 #67
I meant it as a generalization but your specific point is spot on. Phlem Apr 2016 #69
It wasn't the Supreme Court.....It was all Hotler Apr 2016 #93
This needs to be kicked and repeated as often as it takes... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #53
Bandar Bush!!! A great Bush family friend !!! ~eom vkkv Apr 2016 #58
Kickin' for reference Faux pas Apr 2016 #59
Bandar Bush smoking Havanas on the Truman Balcony two nights after 9/11 with W. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #61
Stogie suckin Republicans have been blowing toxic smoke up America's ass AxionExcel Apr 2016 #71
All before the Iraq war: March 20th, 2003 and 9/11/2001 Phlem Apr 2016 #62
Believability JPZenger Apr 2016 #63
Truth. They wanted a backlash against the royals in Saudi. harun Apr 2016 #70
It would be great libodem Apr 2016 #65
If his name were Prince BENGHAZI instead of Prince Bander BUSH... n/t UTUSN Apr 2016 #68
this has botherd and bothered me since i heard about this and gb buried the information allan01 Apr 2016 #72
Think of how different America would be if Al Gore had been president then IronLionZion Apr 2016 #73
If Al had been president, there would have been no 9/11. roamer65 Apr 2016 #90
DU used to put people in the dungeon for saying this. nt Bonobo Apr 2016 #75
IMO, it's always been a ... nikto Apr 2016 #78
We should attack India! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #80
k & fucking r! n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #85
MIHOP all the way! n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2016 #89
I think we need to go back farther in history watoos Apr 2016 #92
This is what happens when Republicans get in power. yardwork Apr 2016 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author mrr303am Apr 2016 #98
Are the Bushes getting on a plane? Octafish Apr 2016 #99
OH MY GOD. Firebrand Gary Apr 2016 #101
Good God, He's like a child. The people who killed JFK must be appalled at the rank amateurism. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #102
PIC: a brief summary of Bush's connection to hijackers yurbud Apr 2016 #103
At this point you just have to shake your head at those who believe the official conspiracy theory brett_jv Apr 2016 #104
GWB got away with it thanks to the -R by his name ... and how credulous our stupid populace is.... JohnyCanuck Apr 2016 #107
House of Clinton, House of Saud: 911 - Bill Clinton goes back to 1989 with Bandar Zira Apr 2016 #105
k&r nationalize the fed Apr 2016 #106
Russ Baker: 9/11, the Saudis and those 28 Pages — a WhoWhatWhy Backgrounder JohnyCanuck Apr 2016 #108
Russ Baker is TOPS! Octafish Apr 2016 #116
Huh. Nice to see that info out there in NY Post. I didn't realize Bandar was a funder lostnfound Apr 2016 #109
another Bush/Cheney DISASTER secondwind Apr 2016 #110
Don't you mean the 7-Eleven hijackers? KamaAina Apr 2016 #120

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
3. Me, too. I'm afraid this will go the way of information on
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:27 PM
Apr 2016

JFK's assassination and we will never really know what happened.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. Read Suskind's book, The Price of Loyalty on Paul O'Neill's memories of the Bush adminisration.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:42 PM
Apr 2016

It's all there. The whole story. You have to read a little between the lines -- but not much.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
74. For those of us who need to be teased...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

... And I apologize for teasing your post, I came across this right away when googling for the book:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics-jan-june04-loyalty_01-15/

Knowledge is power.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
114. Here is a better quote:
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:43 AM
Apr 2016

No one from Saudi Arabia, including Bin Laden, could have had a role in the 9/11 destruction of the World Trade Center, without support of the George W. Bush Jr. administration. The only people allowed to fly out of the country, by the Bush administration, immediately after 9/11, were relatives of Osama Bin Laden. FBI agents were not allowed to question these relatives.

gordianot

(15,238 posts)
7. I seem to remember him meeting brother George after he got off his long 9/11 flight.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:37 PM
Apr 2016

At the Whitehouse no less.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
4. MIHOP was always nuts, but LIHOP is very possible
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:29 PM
Apr 2016

I wish someone would just leak the pages...

Fuck em-

Botany

(70,508 posts)
6. George Bush, "He kept us safe."
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:35 PM
Apr 2016

On the bottom floor of the United States Capitol’s new underground visitors’ center, there is a secure
room where the House Intelligence Committee maintains highly classified files. One of those files is titled
“Finding, Discussion and Narrative Regarding Certain Sensitive National Security Matters.” It is twenty-
eight pages long. In 2002, the Administration of George W. Bush excised those pages from the report
of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into the 9/11 attacks. President Bush said then that publication of that
section of the report would damage American intelligence operations, revealing “sources and methods that
would make it harder for us to win the war on terror.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
29. Please stop hijacking every thread with anti Hillary posts.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

Some of us are able to discuss other issues.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
46. Um no as
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:19 PM
Apr 2016

this pertains directly to the Op. She voted for a war that had nothing to do with Iraq and we seem to be digging up this information.

I expect comments like yours from Hillary supporters. We can just hug out our Hillary support...........except for the bad stuff huh, we don't need to talk about that.

She condoned war , which killed innocent people, and you support her for President.

Response to Phlem (Reply #46)

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
91. Wow, your even more ridiculous for not acknowledging
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

the fact that you're voting for someone who voted for the Iraq war.

It's a fucking decision call. A lot of people were not for war back then but it didn't matter did it.

Innocent people died and we should just sweep this under the rug? Can't handle the fact that Hillary voted FOR IT!

I didn't see anyone twisting her arm, she did it of her own free will.

Refute it instead if whine about it.

These are the reasons I don't want her as President. Been there, Done that, Don't want anymore of it!

It matters.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,434 posts)
54. Please stop asking everyone to sweep
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

this and anything else questionable about Hillary Clinton under the rug.

She's running for President, and these issues are relevant and should be brought to the light of day.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
94. Yes some of us are, but I haven't found many Clinton supporters that will discuss issues.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016

Do you support Clinton's position on fracking?

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
51. I tend to think Dubya's actions smelled more of MIHOP than LIHOP.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:33 PM
Apr 2016

But if we can hang 'em with LIHOP, won't hear no complaints from me.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
55. GWB admin went out of the way to antagonize them
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:41 PM
Apr 2016

Specifically gave DoD the lead on Mideast affairs, kept SoS Powell out of the region. Kept daring them to do something and acted surprised when they did exactly what they were warned would happen.

LIHOP only in the sense that they didn't directly participate. Then went after the guy that wasn't involved and let bin Laden escape from Tora Bora.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
100. They think we have collective amnesia
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

Just because the media never mentioned it, we are supposed to believe it never happened.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
117. That's the plan.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:15 PM
Apr 2016

Good thing for the Internet.



Ashcroft Flying High

CBS News
WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

"I don't do threat assessments myself and I rely on those whose responsibility it is in the law enforcement community, particularly the FBI. And I try to stay within the guidelines that they've suggested I should stay within for those purposes," Ashcroft said.

Asked if he knew anything about the threat or who might have made it, the attorney general replied, "Frankly, I don't. That's the answer."

CONTINUED...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ashcroft-flying-high/

Johnny Ashcan knew. And DUers remember.

 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
112. Democrats have a dominant pro-war faction too
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

Democrats too are part of the war machinery. Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Syria and Libya were creations of the neocons in the Democratic Party. This is why we need to support Bernie Sanders for President.

We like to blame Bush for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but we forget that we were at war with them in the 1990s. Madeleine Albright famously declared that the deaths of half a million children as the price was worth it. Missiles were fired into Afghanistan during the Clinton administration which means the war had already begun. T

Taliban itself was the creation of the neocons in the Democratic Party under Bill Clinton and they came to power in 1994 due to the neocons supporting them.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
21. That picture really pisses me off
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016

Bandar Bush is now helping to fund ISIS. George W Bush, "he kept us safe."

 

lastone

(588 posts)
24. all for the love of oil
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:34 PM
Apr 2016

makes me crazy to think where we'd be if we followed Carters renewable vision
makes me crazy to think Reagan's first act as dipshit in chief was to take down the solar panels Carter had installed on the white house.

people in this country are soo fucking stupid...

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
14. FUCK SAUDI ARABIA.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

It fucking kills me that our country kowtows to the evil assholes in charge there.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
20. Yup
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:27 PM
Apr 2016


From left to right: Dick Cheney, Prince Bandar, Condoleezza Rice, and George W. Bush, on the Truman Balcony of the White House on September 13, 2001.

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
18. If our government is willing to risk
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:26 PM
Apr 2016

breaking its delicate alliance with one of our most infamous Middle Eastern allies, then it should go the full mile and actually investigate that day the way it should have been in the first place. There are more than a few Americans who can see that the Bush regime and its "commission" lied, omitted and ignored very relevant testimony and information, and really gave us a highly unlikely conspiracy theory as to what happened.

Besides that (and none of the media is mentioning it), a few of these 19 hijackers were found alive and interviewed by the BBC (you can look this up). They were wondering why they were being blamed and wanted everyone to know they were still alive.

I think there was Saudi involvement, plus the involvement of many well-connected, powerful people from many different countries. However, I believe 9/11 was a US military-orchestrated and executed attack that could only have happened with the nod from people very high up in the Bush regime's hierarchy (I'm thinking Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc.). Our air defenses fell apart that day and it was not by chance.

If Al Gore had become president in 2000 instead of George Bush, I feel pretty damn sure 9/11 wouldn't have taken place at all.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
37. On the morning of 9-11 Dick Cheney was helping to run simulated war games that had ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:45 PM
Apr 2016

... hijacked planes crashing into American Cities and our fighter cover was off over the
North Atlantic. Washington, D.C. has the most protected air space in the world and a
slow moving passenger jet was able to fly into D.C. air space and hit the pentagon
over an hour after the first plane hit the WTC? An F-16 @ Andrews Air Force Base could
have been over D.C. in under 2 minutes.


"If Al Gore had become president in 2000 instead of George Bush, I feel pretty damn sure 9/11
wouldn't have taken place at all."

nyabingi

(1,145 posts)
115. I think the moral of the story is if
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:26 PM
Apr 2016

there are any "drills" being conducted somewhere, something nefarious is bound to follow.

If we had a media that actually investigated instead of simply relaying stories from people in power, maybe many more Americans would know what to look for and be more informed as to what is actually going on around them.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
118. Bush warned about bin Laden and hid aboard destroyer at Genoa G-8 Summit in JULY 2001
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:18 PM
Apr 2016

James Hatfield wrote that W Bush was so afraid of bin Laden aerial attack, he refused to stay in a hotel on land and slept aboard a U.S. missile destroyer in the harbor.



Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

Editor's note: In light of last week's horrific events and the Bush administration's reaction to them, we are reprising the following from the last column Jim Hatfield wrote for Online Journal prior to his tragic death on July 18:

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

Why would Osama bi Laden want to kill, Dubya, his former business partner?

CONTINUED...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060906150015/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html



FTR: Hatfield, also author of the MSM-maligned "Fortunate Son" unauthorized bio of George w Bush, died a few days after this was published. "SUICIDE."

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
23. For payment to the Saudi's and Bin Laden
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:31 PM
Apr 2016

GWB closed the air force base in Saudi Arabia that Bin Laden and the Saudi's were protesting. Talk about appeasing the terrorists. This is what Bin Laden wanted.

I've a theory. Bin Laden made tapes at the most opportune moments for GWB in exchange for his safety.

How's that for tin foil hattery?

Botany

(70,508 posts)
28. Well, w said in public that he had quit looking for bin Laden in 2005 which is the same time ...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:40 PM
Apr 2016

.... that bin Laden moved into his compound in Abbott, Pakistan which is home to Pakistan's
"West Point."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
60. it's like how they kept slamming the door on DEA offices in Panama and Tegucigalpa
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

when they got too successful--since they were horning in on Medellin

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
26. Laws Are For Little People - The People That Run The Planet Have No Laws
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:38 PM
Apr 2016

Saudis, Bush's, Cheney's, and a few more. Some might be Dems.....

What is a little terrorism, and a little murder.

We have a future for the planet to shape.

Poor? Just shut up and go to prison.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
35. the Clintons are right there with the Bushes.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton taking Saudi bribes and approving weapons be sent to the Saudis that they now use to kill civilians in Yemen. The Clintons are just as much a crime family as Bush and Cheney.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
30. hypothetical
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

If the 28 pages was released back in 2002, there would have been no invasion of Iraq. I doubt we'd invade Saudi Arabia over 9/11, but think of the cathartic transformation that would have been possible if justice was brought to the Saudi's? They would be a full blown Democracy by now!

Actually, I have no idea what would have happened if the 28 pages was released in 2002. But, in general, truth and justice are ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD THING AND THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THE LONG RUN. Not to mention credibility, which our current OLIGARCHY has learned is no longer necessary to impose with impunity their form of government on our former Democracy.

(Yeah, I know we are actually some kind of "Democratic-republic" hybrid)

-90% Jimmy

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
31. They are Clinton Foundation Donors as well
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

The Saudis love to pay for a good war. They will bribe anybody if it means perpetual war. Clinton loves that Saudi money.

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
32. What the hell is wrong with our government? This stuff needs to be revealed and addressed!
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:41 PM
Apr 2016

It goes beyond Saudi involvement. WHY would the Saudis do this? WHAT possible reason would they spend large sums of money helping this group?

I am astounded that this is not being reported non-stop on the airwaves. 911 was a tragedy like Pearl Harbor which ushered in our involvement in WW2. To me hiding this information from the American public is bordering on treason. I don't care how much money they may take out of our system. If we can be blackmailed this easily while thousands died, then frankly we need to revisit our whole system.

 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
34. WHY would the Saudis do this?
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

To help their good friend Bush kill 2 birds with one stone.

Get rid of Saddam, and keep Iraqi oil under control.

Plain as day.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
52. Read Ron Suskind's book based on the memoires of Paul O'Neill, Bush's Treasury Secretary,
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:39 PM
Apr 2016

The Price of Loyalty. These events took place soon after Bush II was inaugurated!

First, the Bush administration was made aware of the extent of global warming at the time.

Please note that O'Neill, even while at Alcoa, was aware and trying to make others aware of our environmental crisis. I personally think that may have been one reason that he was so sensitive to the issues concerning oil and the Iraq oil fields. That's just my guess.

Anyway, from a book that should be on the shelf of everyone interested in the history of the Bush II administration:

"Beneath the surface was a battle O'Neill had seen brewing since the NSC meeting on January 30. It was Powell and his moderates at the State Department versus hard-liners like Rumsfeld, Cheney, and Wolfowitz, who were already planning the next war in Iraq and the shape of a post-Saddam country.

. . . .

One document, headed 'Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts,' lists companies from thirty countries -- including France, Germany, Russia, and the United Kingdom -- their specialties, bidding histories, and in some cases their particular areas of interest. An attached document maps Iraq with markings for 'supergiant oilfield,' 'other oilfield,' and 'earmarked for production sharing,' while demarking the largely undeveloped southwest of the country into nine 'blocks' to designate areas for future exploration. The desire to 'dissuade' countries from engaging in 'asymmetrical challenges' to the United States -- or Rumsfeld said in his January articulation of the demonstrative value of a preemptive attack -- matched with plans for how the world's second largest oil reserve might be divided among the world's contractors made for an irresistible combination, O'Neill later said.

Already by February (2001 shortly after GWB's inauguration), the talk was mostly about logistics. Not the why, but the how and how quickly. Rumsfeld, O'Neill recalled, was focused on how an incident might cause escalated tensions -- like the shooting down of an American plane in the regular engagement between U.S. fighters and Iraqi antiaircraft batteries -- and what U.S. responses to such an occurrence might be. Wolfowitz was pushing for the arming of Iraqi opposition groups and sending in U.S. troops to support and defend their insurgency. He had written in Foreign Affairs magazine in 1999 that "the United States should be prepared to commit ground forces to protect a sanctuary in southern Iraq where the opposition could safely mobilize."

During his confirmation hearings, Powell had said that arming the Iraqi opposition would be logistically difficult and ultimately unsuccessful in toppling Saddam. Since then, Powell had discovered that he was outnumbered."

Ron Suskind, The Price of Loyalty (2004) pages 96-97.


I strongly, strongly recommend reading that book. Get a copy.

It is a pretty frank history of the first years of Bush II.

I have to say that I do not agree with Paul O'Neill on many issues, but the history is interesting.

I am not related to Suskind or O'Neill in any way. Don't know either of them. Never met them. I just like the book and recommend it.

Anyway, the question is, in their relationship with Saudi Arabia, did the members of the Bush administration give aid and comfort to an enemy of the US, of the American people? Or not?

It's just a question.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
38. To give Bush and Clinton power to justify the
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

Iraq war. This has lead to the Saudi backed ISIL and helping the Saudis achieve a Saudi style Islamic state throughout the middle east.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
111. That's how a person with normal morality and conscience reacts
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

That's how a person with normal morality and conscience reacts
People who have normal morality and conscience
are generally not allowed into the highest seats of power.
The best we ever get are people willing to do whatever good they can, without upsetting the apple cart.

With all the weapons and machinery that Saudi Arabia has, or perhaps their ability to upset world oil markets, or perhaps they would threaten to obliterate Israel -- who knows? Maybe they are the enemy that we placate as a country, because they would be too much trouble otherwise? I don't know; I don't understand it; I don't WANT to understand it. I want to go back to writing poetry, jogging, Studying science.

But I did want to be represented in government, to see the most powerful position in government entrusted, to someone whose conscience and honesty and wisdom and values I could trust.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
39. President Bush 'shared cigars' and assisted the escape of 9-11 pilots funders. Did he know pilots
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

were 'in training?'

Botany

(70,508 posts)
44. He had to have known
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:11 PM
Apr 2016

W had the 8.6.01 PDB put in his lap and he told the CIA worker something like
"Well you have covered your ass. Now get out of here."


Richard Clark told him and the w admin. about al Qaeda and a female FBI agent
tried to report about Arabs taking flight training classes in 2001 and she was hushed up.

http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/

Washington, D.C., February 10, 2005 - The National Security Archive today posted the widely-debated, but previously unavailable, January 25, 2001, memo from counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice - the first terrorism strategy paper of the Bush administration. The document was central to debates in the 9/11 hearings over the Bush administration's policies and actions on terrorism before September 11, 2001. Clarke's memo requests an immediate meeting of the National Security Council's Principals Committee to discuss broad strategies for combating al-Qaeda by giving counterterrorism aid to the Northern Alliance and Uzbekistan, expanding the counterterrorism budget and responding to the U.S.S. Cole attack. Despite Clarke's request, there was no Principals Committee meeting on al-Qaeda until September 4, 2001.

The January 25, 2001, memo, recently released to the National Security Archive by the National Security Council, bears a declassification stamp of April 7, 2004, one day prior to Rice's testimony before the 9/11 Commission on April 8, 2004. Responding to claims that she ignored the al-Qaeda threat before September 11, Rice stated in a March 22, 2004 Washington Post op-ed, "No al Qaeda plan was turned over to the new administration."

Two days after Rice's March 22 op-ed, Clarke told the 9/11 Commission, "there's a lot of debate about whether it's a plan or a strategy or a series of options -- but all of the things we recommended back in January were those things on the table in September. They were done. They were done after September 11th. They were all done. I didn't really understand why they couldn't have been done in February."

Also attached to the original Clarke memo are two Clinton-era documents relating to al-Qaeda. The first, "Tab A December 2000 Paper: Strategy for Eliminating the Threat from the Jihadist Networks of al-Qida: Status and Prospects," was released to the National Security Archive along with the Clarke memo. "Tab B, September 1998 Paper: Pol-Mil Plan for al-Qida," also known as the Delenda Plan, was attached to the original memo, but was not released to the Archive and remains under request with the National Security Council.

 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
84. August 6, 2001: President Bush Tells CIA Regarding Bin Laden Warning, ‘You’ve Covered Your Ass, Now
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:11 PM
Apr 2016

August 6, 2001: President Bush Tells CIA Regarding Bin Laden Warning, ‘You’ve Covered Your Ass, Now’

Edit event

According to journalist and author Ron Suskind, just after a CIA briefer presents President Bush with the later infamous PDB (Presidential Daily Briefing) item entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” (see August 6, 2001), Bush tells the briefer, “You’ve covered your ass, now.” This account is from Suskind’s 2006 book The One Percent Doctrine, which is based largely on anonymous accounts from political insiders. In the book, after describing the presentation of the PDB, Suskind will write: “And, at an eyeball-to-eyeball intelligence briefing during this urgent summer, George W. Bush seems to have made the wrong choice. He looked hard at the panicked CIA briefer. ‘All right,’ he said. ‘You’ve covered your ass, now.’” [Suskind, 2006, pp. 2; Washington Post, 6/20/2006]


Entity Tags: Central Intelligence Agency, George W. Bush

Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, 9/11 Timeline

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a080601coveredyourass&scale=0#a080601coveredyourass
 

scottie55

(1,400 posts)
40. Bush's Number One Job Was Covering Up After The Attack They Let Happen On Purpose
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 01:48 PM
Apr 2016

Every single piece of evidence proves this fact.

America left wide open after hundreds of in your face warnings of impending attack.

Then all the Saudis safely flown out of the country before being questioned.

The Powers That Be At Work

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
47. Not so fast -- consider the source
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:23 PM
Apr 2016

FIRST: Let me make it clear that I am no friend of the Saudis. Our continued deep relationship with them needs to be adjusted down. Furthermore, I want to see the redacted 28 pages from the 9-11 commission report.

However, the source of this report is JOHN GUANDOLO -- Guandolo is not exactly a reliable source. I have put several links about Guandolo below. Here's the short version.

1. Guandolo is a former FBI agent who claims he was fired because he was uncovering Muslim infiltration into the US government. In fact, he was fired because he was having affairs with another agent and with an undercover source. He also tried to extort $40,000 from the source.

2. Guandolo claims President Obama is a "closet Muslim" and CIA Director John Brennan converted to Islam on a trip to Saudi Arabia.

3. Guandolo now makes his living traveling around spreading his anti-Muslim horseshit to Tea Parties, police departments, and anyone else who will listen. He's a regular on Breitbart, Alex Jones, and Glenn Beck.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2015/08/10/disgraced-former-fbi-agent-john-guandolo-providing-anti-muslim-law-enforcement-training

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/category/people/john-guandolo

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/the-strange-case-of-the-philandering-muslim-threat-hyping-fbi-agent

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/17/virginia_country_sheriff_hosting_anti_muslim_training_by_disgraced_conspiracy_theorist_partner/

http://theadvocate.com/columnists/11334863-55/james-gill-john-guandolos-new

http://www.islamophobiatoday.com/tag/john-guandolo/

http://theoldredneckspeaks.blogspot.com/2015/01/99th-district-tea-party-meeting.html

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
95. Yikes. That is one messed-up dude.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:18 PM
Apr 2016

Thanks for the education.

Citing him without indicating anything about his nut-job past does call the veracity of the article into question.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
119. James R Bath connects Bush, bin Laden, Petrodollars, BCCI & BFEE.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:24 PM
Apr 2016


The late artist pegged the Bush-bin Laden connection before 9/11.



Toward a Diagram of Mark Lombardi

by Frances Richard

2001 http://www.wburg.com

Who is James R. Bath?

A nodal point in Mark Lombardi's drawing George W. Bush, Harken Energy and Jackson Stephens 1 c. 1979-90, 5th Version, 1999, James R. Bath appears in the upper lefthand corner of the 16 1/2" x 41" piece of paper. The spatial syntax of Lombardi's drawings—which map in elegantly visual terms the secret deals and suspect associations of financiers, politicians, corporations, and governments—dictates that the more densely lines ray out from a given node, the more deeply that figure is embroiled in the tale Lombardi tells. Thirteen lines originate with or point to James R. Bath, more than any other name presented. Among those linked to this obscure yet central character are George W. Bush, Jr., George H.W. Bush, Sr., Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas, Governor John B. Connally of Texas, Sheik Salim bin Laden of Saudi Arabia, and Sheik Salim's younger brother, Osama bin Laden.

The drawing is done on pale beige paper, in pencil. It follows a time-line, with dates arrayed across three horizontal tiers. These in turn support arcs denoting personal and corporate alliances, the whole comprising a skeletal resume of George W. Bush's career in the oil business. In other words, the drawing, like all Lombardi's work, is a post-Conceptual reinvention of history painting, a document of factually verifiable yet extremely pared-down relationships limned in a double light of international fame and cryptic realpolitik. Or rather, the light is triple. For, though he possessed the instincts of a private eye and the acumen of a systems-analyst, Lombardi was of course an artist, and from the raw material of wire-service reports and books by political correspondents, he drew not only chronicles of covert, high-stakes trade, but technically pristine and sensually compelling visual forms. His project's sources are profoundly art-historical, even as they are obviously journalistic, and the creative tension between abstracted, self-propelling image and direct verbal communication propels his work. Delicately balanced and gracefully enlaced, these lines and circles read from across the room as purely retinal explorations of two-dimensional space. Their stylized complexity, however, lures the eye in, to a point where language registers as legible and referentiality asserts itself through the scrim of form. A narrative emerges. Looking shifts toward reading, and Lombardi's one-two punch lands.

James R. Bath, it turns out, is a Texas businessman, a sometime aeronautics broker whose firm, Skyway Aircraft Leasing, LTD., was a Cayman Islands 2 front amassing money for use by Oliver North in the Iran-Contra affair. Bath also served as an agent minding American interests for a quartet of Saudi Arabian billionaires, one of whom was Sheik Salim bin Laden, the oldest son and heir of Sheik Mohammed bin Laden, father of fifty-four children including Osama. According to reports by the Houston Chronicle, the Wall Street Journal, Time, and others, Bath did business in his own name but with the Saudis' money; tax records indicate that he collected a fee of 5% on their multimillion dollar American investments. In 1979, Bath contributed $50,000 to Arbusto Energy, a limited-partnership controlled by George W. Bush. As Bath had little capital of his own, oil insiders trace the funds to his silent partners, specifically Salim bin Laden. Such cash infusions from Bath's client sheiks and George H.W. Bush's cartel cronies could not, however, prop Arbusto up. The venture collapsed in 1981 and merged into the Spectrum 7 Energy Corporation. Spectrum—still with W. at the helm—evolved through more near-failures and mergers into Harken Energy, which, in 1990, embarked upon a sweetheart deal to drill oil wells in Bahrain—this regardless of the fact that Harken had never drilled an overseas well, nor a marine well of any kind. Oil industry cognoscenti again assume that the Bahrain contract was orchestrated as a favor from the Saudis to the American chief executive and his family. The favor paid. On June 20, 1990, George W. Bush sold two-thirds of his Harken stock at $4 per share. Eight days later, Harken finished the second quarter with losses of $23 million; the stock promptly lost 75% of its value, finishing at just over $1 per share. Two months later, Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the Gulf War began. All these events are cited in Lombardi's drawing.

Meanwhile, another Bath associate, Sheik Khalid bin Mafouz, was involved in the collapse (in July, 1991) of the Bank of Credit and Commerce, International, better known as BCCI. Among the sins of the Pakistani-owned BCCI were money-laundering on behalf of Colombian druglords, arms brokering, bribery, and aid to terrorists; when this cabal came unglued, millions of investors in seventy-three countries lost their life-savings. Although Bath was not personally implicated in the BCCI fiasco, an estranged business partner claims that that he, Bath, had been recruited to the CIA in 1976-77 by George Bush, Sr., after serving in the Texas Air National Guard as the buddy of George Bush, Jr. (in 1972, the two young men narrowly escaped arrest for cocaine possession). Bath's putative CIA connections, the Agency's operations in the Middle East, and the adventures of BCCI thus compose a kind of symmetry. The byzantine saga of BCCI's demise is plotted in the drawing that is perhaps Lombardi's masterwork, BCCI-ICIC-FAB, c. 1972-1991, (4th Version), 1996-2000. Unveiled in the landmark P.S. 1 exhibition "Greater New York" in 2000, this piece signaled Lombardi's arrival at the cusp of art world fame; it is now in the permanent collection of the Whitney Museum. A wall-size panel schematizing twenty years of suspect alliances amongst scores of players, BCCI-ICIC-FAB… was the last major work the artist made before his death.

CONTINUED...

http://www.whale.to/c/mark_lombard3.html



Old news to you, billhicks76. A real shocker to those new to the scene. Totally missing from all the 9-11 coverage at the Newseum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5446102

Mesee

(42 posts)
49. $130,000 from Saudi Ambassador and 9/11/01 hijackers.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:31 PM
Apr 2016

Carl Cameron, White House Correspondent for Fox News reported in 2002 that President George W. Bush was told over 50 times before the pending attack in 9/11/01. The NY Post and Newsday also reported that Bush knew.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
50. The oil was obvious, this just (on edit)
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 02:32 PM
Apr 2016

clarifies what we knew already. It was a corrupt war where innocent and Americans died. War fucking sucks and anyone who read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

wouldn't have voted for it.

I saw the 2nd plane hit the building while I was in Vegas early in the morning on the news and I remember the vote. I also remember all the news and warnings leading up to the war but in the end I didn't support it and was very disappointed when congress voted for it.

Say what you will but that's when we started "forever war". Blaming "Terrorism", a word, for all our ills. So what happened when we couldn't find "Terrorism" or it's source, a forever war on "hunting for terrorism and killing *it* in whatever fucking shape or form it may be. WTF

That my friend is the result of voting for war hawks. We should be paying attention to how we feed that beast.

edit: That was the last time we searched for a single source to kill (Saddam Hussein) and opened it up to a fucking "noun". Shoot that!

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
69. I meant it as a generalization but your specific point is spot on.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

Opportunists will opportunists. The agenda gives it away more quickly.

Zen Democrat

(5,901 posts)
61. Bandar Bush smoking Havanas on the Truman Balcony two nights after 9/11 with W.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:14 PM
Apr 2016

Saw that 12 years ago in Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11. It still infuriates me.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
62. All before the Iraq war: March 20th, 2003 and 9/11/2001
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 03:27 PM
Apr 2016

Re: PNAC US Military Policy

March 3, 1999: New Pearl Harbor Needed to Change US Military Policies, Says Expert

Andrew Krepinevich, Executive Director of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, testifies before the Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities:

“There appears to be general agreement concerning the need to transform the US military into a significantly different kind of force from that which emerged victorious from the Cold and Gulf Wars. Yet this verbal support has not been translated into a defense program supporting transformation… the ‘critical mass’ needed to effect it has not yet been achieved. One may conclude that, in the absence of a strong external shock to the United States—a latter-day ‘Pearl Harbor’ of sorts—surmounting the barriers to transformation will likely prove a long, arduous process.”


[US CONGRESS, 3/5/1999] This is very similar to what strategists at PNAC have said (see June 3, 1997).

Andrew Krepinevich, Senate Armed Services Committee

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a060397pnacprinciples

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
63. Believability
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

If powerful people are knowingly funding terrorists, they are not going to use a check from their own account. In the slight chance they use a check, they would run it through an untraceable shell company.

I find it believable that some influential Saudis were funding terrorists inside the US, but not the Ambassador to the US. He had way too much to lose.

Let us also remember that Bin Laden intentionally wanted to drive a wedge between "moderate" Muslims and the West. That was his main goal. As Colin Powell made clear at the time, Bin Laden wanted an over-reaction by the West to the terrorist attacks, in order to end up alienating Muslims. Bin Laden could have found young wackos from other countries, but he intentionally recruited Saudis because the thought their involvement would do the most damage to international relations.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
72. this has botherd and bothered me since i heard about this and gb buried the information
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

i hope that there is a congresional overide .

IronLionZion

(45,447 posts)
73. Think of how different America would be if Al Gore had been president then
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 06:02 PM
Apr 2016

a reminder of how every vote matters. The two parties are NOT even close to being the same.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
92. I think we need to go back farther in history
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

it was Bill Clinton who pulled the U.N. weapons inspectors out of Iraq because they weren't finding any WMD. We then imposed some of the harshest sanctions ever imposed on a country, sanctions that included food and medicine. It is estimated that 500,000 Iraqi children died because of those sanctions.

yardwork

(61,622 posts)
96. This is what happens when Republicans get in power.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 08:26 PM
Apr 2016

They are worse than Democrats.

I remember all that crap in 2000 about how Gore was "just as bad as W."

Response to Botany (Original post)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
102. Good God, He's like a child. The people who killed JFK must be appalled at the rank amateurism.
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016

Why not just draw a big chalk arrow in the streets of Manhattan, leading back to the Saudi Embassy, dude?

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
104. At this point you just have to shake your head at those who believe the official conspiracy theory
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:24 AM
Apr 2016

And ask 'Seriously, how fu**ing STUPID ... are you?'

I've been saying LIHOP at a minimum, most likely MIHOP ... since about Sept 30, 2001.

Can you just IMAGINE how apoplectic every CON in this country would be ... if there was a pic of Obama kissing a Muslim Prince ... whose family had given 130K to the 9/11 hijackers? I mean, seriously.

GWB got away with it though, thanks to the -R by his name ... and how credulous our stupid populace is.

Oh, and the thought that there'd be some cheap oil and lots of dead muslims in the end.

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
107. GWB got away with it thanks to the -R by his name ... and how credulous our stupid populace is....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:53 AM
Apr 2016

....and the thorough job the mainstream media presstitutes and media whores did in helping sweep it all under the carpet by carefully omitting to connect the dots between Bush and the Saudis and (very importantly) by labeling anyone who had the temerity to not buy into the "official conspiracy theory" they were complicit in propagating, irony of ironies, just another loony-tune "conspiracy theorist."

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
105. House of Clinton, House of Saud: 911 - Bill Clinton goes back to 1989 with Bandar
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:27 AM
Apr 2016
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/28/1492912/-House-of-Clinton-House-of-Saud-911

And, lets not forget the Saudi Arms deal that Hillary fought for and accepted a large donation from Saudi Arabia to the Clinton foundation after.

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
108. Russ Baker: 9/11, the Saudis and those 28 Pages — a WhoWhatWhy Backgrounder
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:57 AM
Apr 2016

Russ Baker is an investigative journalist and author of the book Family of Secrets:The Bush Dynasty, America’s Invisible Government, and the hidden History of the Last Fifty Years. One of the areas his web site WhoWhatWhy.org has covered is the links between the 9/11 hijackers and high level Saudis and the evidence that there was a coverup of Saudi involvement with the hijackers


9/11, the Saudis and those 28 Pages — a WhoWhatWhy Backgrounder


SNIP

We watched the program (CBS 60Minutes /JC)with interest, and imagine that you may have, too. We also hope you will visit, or revisit, work we have done on this and related topics — all of which point to the fact that the authorities are not leveling with us about 9/11, that the Saudi angle deserves further scrutiny, and that much more work needs to be done, in a host of areas.

Here’s a long investigative article we did revealing previously unknown, deep connections between highly placed Saudis — and the hijackers themselves. It’s worth taking the time to carefully read and ponder the material.

Here’s a piece about FBI efforts to deflect evidence in the above article that the FBI itself discovered Saudi 9/11 links, and had to hide and deny what it found.

And here’s a story on how the government is so terribly worried about the Saudi angle being revealed that it will even threaten and intimidate top former government officials to silence them.

See embedded links in the original: http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/04/10/911-saudis-28-pages-whowhatwhy-backgrounder/

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
116. Russ Baker is TOPS!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

I met him at the JFK: Passing the Torch conference at Duquesne. Smart as a whip and a heck of a nice guy.

He hangs out with Peter Dale Scott and the most dangerous man in America, Daniel Ellsberg.

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
109. Huh. Nice to see that info out there in NY Post. I didn't realize Bandar was a funder
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:00 AM
Apr 2016

I'm not surprised exactly but such a direct connection getting buried is interesting.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
120. Don't you mean the 7-Eleven hijackers?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:27 PM
Apr 2016

$130 grand would buy a hell of a lot of Slurpees and hot dogs!

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