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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:38 AM Apr 2016

‘And then we wept': Scientists say 93 percent of the Great Barrier Reef now bleached

The conclusions from a series of scientific surveys of the Great Barrier Reef bleaching event — an environmental assault on the largest coral ecosystem on Earth — are in, and scientists aren’t holding back about how devastating they find them.

Australia’s National Coral Bleaching Task Force has surveyed 911 coral reefs by air, and found at least some bleaching of the vast majority of them. The bleaching was the worst in the reef’s northern sector — where virtually no reefs escaped it.

“Between 60 and 100 percent of corals are severely bleached on 316 reefs, nearly all in the northern half of the Reef,” Prof. Terry Hughes, head of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies at James Cook University, said in a statement to the news media. He led the research.

Severe bleaching means that corals could die, depending on how long they are subject to these conditions. The scientists also reported that based on diving surveys of the northern reef, they already are seeing nearly 50 percent coral death.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/04/20/and-then-we-wept-scientists-say-93-percent-of-the-great-barrier-reef-now-bleached/

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‘And then we wept': Scientists say 93 percent of the Great Barrier Reef now bleached (Original Post) n2doc Apr 2016 OP
Don't worry, greed is on the way to help.... Oh wait onecaliberal Apr 2016 #1
Wall Street greed? egalitegirl Apr 2016 #2
Yes. Greed and corruption has permeated this country from the bottom up. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #3
And not just the USA malaise Apr 2016 #4
Completely agree. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #5
I don't understand your point.. Average people buy / consume what is available to them.. vkkv Apr 2016 #21
They fail/refuse to impose restrictions because corporations won't make insane profits. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #23
Who is "They"? If by "they" you mean the small time workers vkkv Apr 2016 #33
No shit, who do you think votes those people into power. Who do you think keeps regulation from onecaliberal Apr 2016 #36
That has nothing to do with 'greed from bottom to top'. That is Top Down greed. vkkv Apr 2016 #37
THAT is people voting for those at the TOP to KEEP doing it! onecaliberal Apr 2016 #38
tragic! Liberal_in_LA Apr 2016 #6
But predictable. Sadly, people don't seem to care. closeupready Apr 2016 #7
and me... We are living during the largest extinction event ever documented Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #10
I care too. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2016 #12
But so many of these species are bugs and krill elljay Apr 2016 #15
Everything fitting together doesn't promote the progress of humanity The2ndWheel Apr 2016 #19
No, we're not elljay Apr 2016 #25
Making $$ will always overrule environmental concerns... Blue_Tires Apr 2016 #18
Don't worry 2naSalit Apr 2016 #8
You can say that again. Many, many people just don't get it. bjo59 Apr 2016 #26
I picture it to look 2naSalit Apr 2016 #27
Yup. 😢 LiberalLoner Apr 2016 #39
I went there many years ago greymattermom Apr 2016 #9
I'm having a hard time expressing my sadness. Duval Apr 2016 #11
Yes, no words for how sad.... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2016 #13
This was my experience too. annabanana Apr 2016 #20
only when its Homo sapiens whom are becoming extinct will the majority of people care.... NoMoreRepugs Apr 2016 #14
That's why I'm not going to vote against my children and their children, just because onecaliberal Apr 2016 #24
True. Humans on Earth are like a mange infestation on a dog. Quantess Apr 2016 #34
Kick in sadness Hekate Apr 2016 #16
Make Gas And Natural Gas $25 Per Gallon And Coal $2,000 Per Ton Yallow Apr 2016 #17
Very very sad. and bad. And people have NO IDEA what all of this is going to mean to vkkv Apr 2016 #22
I have given up on 2naSalit Apr 2016 #28
"What about all of those dead canaries?".. *crickets*.. ~eom vkkv Apr 2016 #29
What? 2naSalit Apr 2016 #30
Canary in the coalmine.. see text vkkv Apr 2016 #31
Thanks, context is crucial. 2naSalit Apr 2016 #32
Just another one of countless reasons Dalziel3979 Apr 2016 #35
 

egalitegirl

(362 posts)
2. Wall Street greed?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:01 AM
Apr 2016

Do you mean the greed of Wall Street firms? The same Wall Street firms which funnel money to politicians?

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
3. Yes. Greed and corruption has permeated this country from the bottom up.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 10:08 AM
Apr 2016

Republicans aren't the only ones who vote against themselves.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
21. I don't understand your point.. Average people buy / consume what is available to them..
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:50 PM
Apr 2016

So we buy fossil fuel cars instead of cleaner electric -and not out of greed that is for sure. Wealthy people are more likely to hide their money in a paranoid, greedy fashion while the poor will help their neighbors.

My nearly 60 years of observation, education, reading and watching through life suggests that GREED starts at the top and works DOWN. Most employers try to pay as little as possible to workers...


Signed,
Another Cal Liberal

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
23. They fail/refuse to impose restrictions because corporations won't make insane profits.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:20 PM
Apr 2016

I hear every day how regulation is bad. It's only bad for profits, working people, and the environment. It's simple really.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
33. Who is "They"? If by "they" you mean the small time workers
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:59 PM
Apr 2016

that is only a recent event / if you mean gov't reps then "they" are not little people.. Big Oil has been polluting long before local construction guys complained about regulations.. Those echoed complaints are from believing right-wing media.. Hard dollars and earnings TRICKLE UP to the wealthiest while paranoia and greed have trickled DOWN.

I'm okay with you not believing me but if you're going to communicate the please don't use just pronouns..

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
36. No shit, who do you think votes those people into power. Who do you think keeps regulation from
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016

happening. It's just not as difficult as you're making it out to be. The polls are bought and paid for, they protect the $ interests who in turn don't give a rats ass about the environment or anything else but ever more profit.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
37. That has nothing to do with 'greed from bottom to top'. That is Top Down greed.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:44 PM
Apr 2016

I'm done here.. your vagaries are far too annoying.

Communicate not so that you can be understood, communicate so that there can be NO misunderstanding.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
10. and me... We are living during the largest extinction event ever documented
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:22 AM
Apr 2016

Entire species are vanishing faster than they did when dinosaurs disappeared.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
12. I care too.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:49 AM
Apr 2016

Been caring about it since I was little, though back then, such ideas were pretty unformed.

But I did know that, like overpopulation in lab rats resulted in filth and destruction, overpopulation in people would do the same.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
15. But so many of these species are bugs and krill
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:20 PM
Apr 2016

and corals and other nasty, stinging,creepy-crawly things that people don't want to see. With our low levels of scientific knowledge, so few really get how everything fits together. Now, if designer dogs were endangered, people would be outraged and demanding immediate action.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
19. Everything fitting together doesn't promote the progress of humanity
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:43 PM
Apr 2016

Everything fitting together is humanity having to accept its place. We're not good at doing that.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
25. No, we're not
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:52 PM
Apr 2016

Most people have spent exactly zero time considering the consequences to their lives as this catastrophe unfolds. The wealthy, of course, will be fine. The rest of us not at all.

The massive migrations of people from their failed countries is already a human crisis. We will wait until things get worse and several billion people are on the march, then try to toss some cups of water on the pyre.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
18. Making $$ will always overrule environmental concerns...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:26 PM
Apr 2016


Someday folks will realize they can't drink and breathe dollar bills...

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
26. You can say that again. Many, many people just don't get it.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:57 PM
Apr 2016

But, as you say, they soon will. Oh the gnashing of teeth as the lights go out for good.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
9. I went there many years ago
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:21 AM
Apr 2016

Cruise, glass bottom boat, snorkeling. Amazing. I guess I'm glad I went when I did. So sad.

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
11. I'm having a hard time expressing my sadness.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 11:37 AM
Apr 2016

I was scuba diving in Florida and the Caribbean in the 70's and the coral was so pretty. I went back 20 years later to see the devastation of the reefs already beginning.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
20. This was my experience too.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:45 PM
Apr 2016

It was a breathtaking underwater forest then. Now it looks like an underwater desert.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
14. only when its Homo sapiens whom are becoming extinct will the majority of people care....
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:01 PM
Apr 2016

damn, the older I get the more my observations throughout life make me more cynical

onecaliberal

(32,864 posts)
24. That's why I'm not going to vote against my children and their children, just because
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:21 PM
Apr 2016

I won't be around. The greed and selfishness is breathtaking.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
34. True. Humans on Earth are like a mange infestation on a dog.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

I never had kids, which I have mixed feelings about. Climate change makes me think it was just as well to not have kids.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
17. Make Gas And Natural Gas $25 Per Gallon And Coal $2,000 Per Ton
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

Use the money to fix our energy to a non extinction path.

Do it now.

Remember "The Day The Earth Stood Still" remake?

Humans, and their greed, and lust for murder are pathetic.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
22. Very very sad. and bad. And people have NO IDEA what all of this is going to mean to
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

humankind in the future.. could be worse than we think, could be not as bad...

I'm sure that Chevron and other drillers, shippers will be offering old rusty ships and platforms to be dumped offshore in an "Effort To Help Re-Build The Reefs"... Oh wait, they are already doing that!

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
28. I have given up on
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

the prospect that humans will survive and, quite frankly, it would be the best thing for the rest of all other life on the planet for us to not survive.

I don't have any sympathy for our species anymore.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
31. Canary in the coalmine.. see text
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:18 PM
Apr 2016

When exposed to toxic gases, canaries suffer ill effects and die sooner than humans do. That’s why coalminers used to bring caged canaries into the mines with them. If the canaries became sick or died, this was a sign that something was seriously amiss and that the miners needed to get out.

The practice was phased out, at least in the U.S. and the U.K., by the late 20th century, but the phrase canary in the coal mine lives as a metaphor for any warning of serious danger to come. The canary is not prophetic until it is brought in the coalmine, so the metaphor works especially well if the prophetic thing is small, innocent, and not prophetic under normal circumstances. Few writers take pains to make the metaphor perfectly logical, though, and most so-called canaries in coalmines are just things that should be considered alarming.


http://grammarist.com/usage/canary-in-the-coalmine/

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
32. Thanks, context is crucial.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:26 PM
Apr 2016

I use the metaphor regularly in my wildlife presentations at work regarding preservation and conservation of ecosystems.

Dalziel3979

(72 posts)
35. Just another one of countless reasons
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

why I've made the conscientious decision to never have offspring. Won't be anything left worth living for them, thanks to these global hordes of avaricious old bastards that have sucked dry and poisoned everything good, free and natural in this world. I resent having to be a part of the human smog pit more and more everyday.

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