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TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:14 PM Apr 2016

And I thanked God for the Mine Workers' Union. And then I hung my head and cried.

Remember the Ludlow Massacre: 4/20/1914

"Let the fight go on; if nobody else will keep on, I will." ~ Mother Jones

https://soundcloud.com/fourwindstrad/the-ludlow-massacre (Celtic reworking of Woodie Guthrie's original song)


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/20/1083217/-WE-NEVER-FORGET-April-20-1914-The-Ludlow-Masscre-


The miners faced the grim prospect of going out on strike against the powerful southern coalfield companies, chief among them, John D Rockefeller's Colorado Fuel and Iron Company. The coal operators had steadfastly refused to recognize the Union and had ignored all attempts at negotiation.

The miners had had their fill of dangerous working conditions, crooked checkweighmen, long hours, and low pay. They lived in peonage in company towns, were paid in company scrip, and were forced to shop for their daily needs in high-priced company stores which kept them always in debt. But, mostly they hated the notorious company guard system. Every attempt to organize was met with brutality on the part of the coal operators.

Mother Jones addressed the convention for over an hour, urging the men to:


Rise up and strike! ...Strike and stay with it as we did in West Virginia. We are going to stay here in Southern Colorado until the banner of industrial freedom floats over every coal mine. We are going to stand together and never surrender...
Pledge to yourselves in this convention to stand as one solid army against the foes of human labor. Think of the thousands who are killed every year and there is no redress for it. We will fight until the mines are made secure and human life valued more than props. Look things in the face. Don't fear a governor; don't fear anybody...You are the biggest part of the population in the state. You create its wealth so I say, "Let the fight go on; if nobody else will keep on, I will."



Ludlow Massacre
Words and Music by Woody Guthrie

It was early springtime when the strike was on,
They drove us miners out of doors,
Out from the houses that the Company owned,
We moved into tents up at old Ludlow.

I was worried bad about my children,
Soldiers guarding the railroad bridge,
Every once in a while a bullet would fly,
Kick up gravel under my feet.

We were so afraid you would kill our children,
We dug us a cave that was seven foot deep,
Carried our young ones and pregnant women
Down inside the cave to sleep.

That very night your soldiers waited,
Until all us miners were asleep,
You snuck around our little tent town,
Soaked our tents with your kerosene.

You struck a match and in the blaze that started,
You pulled the triggers of your gatling guns,
I made a run for the children but the fire wall stopped me.
Thirteen children died from your guns.

I carried my blanket to a wire fence corner,
Watched the fire till the blaze died down,
I helped some people drag their belongings,
While your bullets killed us all around.

I never will forget the look on the faces
Of the men and women that awful day,
When we stood around to preach their funerals,
And lay the corpses of the dead away.

We told the Colorado Governor to call the President,
Tell him to call off his National Guard,
But the National Guard belonged to the Governor,
So he didn't try so very hard.

Our women from Trinidad they hauled some potatoes,
Up to Walsenburg in a little cart,
They sold their potatoes and brought some guns back,
And they put a gun in every hand.

The state soldiers jumped us in a wire fence corners,
They did not know we had these guns,
And the Red-neck Miners mowed down these troopers,
You should have seen those poor boys run.

We took some cement and walled that cave up,
Where you killed these thirteen children inside,
I said, "God bless the Mine Workers' Union,"
And then I hung my head and cried.
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And I thanked God for the Mine Workers' Union. And then I hung my head and cried. (Original Post) TalkingDog Apr 2016 OP
Be interesting to see who responds in this thread. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #1
We pretty much know the answer to that. eom Enthusiast Apr 2016 #16
Of course this historical blip has absolutely nothing to do with current events. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #2
Are you libruls deliberately trying to make Don Blankenship have a sad? gratuitous Apr 2016 #5
A Billionaire's year is worth 7 in dog... I mean, Prole years. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #7
Very well said. bjo59 Apr 2016 #27
I am a grandson of Ludlow Drahthaardogs Apr 2016 #3
Solidarity. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #8
Exactly. jwirr Apr 2016 #10
Who made the mine owner? Say the black bells of Rhondda. pinboy3niner Apr 2016 #21
Hillary was at Ludlow, fighting the good fight, don't you know? silvershadow Apr 2016 #4
It was the sniper fire that was the worst part. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #6
Please stop it. Drahthaardogs Apr 2016 #24
More on the 19 men, women, and children killed in the Ludlow Massacre Omaha Steve Apr 2016 #9
Know that there was much more to it than just these lives lost. Drahthaardogs Apr 2016 #33
Thank you for this. I am going to a county Democratic Board jwirr Apr 2016 #11
Best of luck. Play them the song. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #26
Our chair brought it up before I had a chance. NE MN is a jwirr Apr 2016 #31
"Let the fight go on; if nobody else will keep on, I will." ~ Mother Jones TalkingDog Apr 2016 #32
Beautiful song, heartbreaking story. yellerpup Apr 2016 #12
The UMWA tonyt53 Apr 2016 #13
You are absolutely correct. Very well said. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #15
Welcome to DU TalkingDog Apr 2016 #20
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Apr 2016 #14
Don't think it isn't happening again, and soon. n/t TygrBright Apr 2016 #17
No doubt. n/t TalkingDog Apr 2016 #19
Sad story & interesting googling ANOIS Apr 2016 #18
Quote from Abraham Lincoln: panader0 Apr 2016 #22
^ This. n/t TalkingDog Apr 2016 #25
Ludlow Massacre struggle4progress Apr 2016 #23
Thank you for this. bjo59 Apr 2016 #28
Da Nada. We are all in this together. n/t TalkingDog Apr 2016 #29
And welcome to DU. TalkingDog Apr 2016 #30

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
2. Of course this historical blip has absolutely nothing to do with current events.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 01:43 PM
Apr 2016

We don't have Robber Barons like Rockerfeller profiting off their workers who are over worked, underpaid and whose lives are valued, as Mother Jones noted, less than material things or "props".

We don't have a government that is corrupted, or turns a blind eye to it.

We don't have a militarized police force that kills 10 times more people every year than died in the Ludlow conflicts and for much the same reasons: to oppress those who oppose widespread abuses by the system, including those who oppose the 1%.

We don't have a population of worker citizens who are disenfranchised in every conceivable facet of their lives.

It's too bad that Mother Jones' heritage has been sullied by the corporate loving rag that bears her name. She was right. We create the wealth of this nation. And if we have to keep fighting the same battles, then, so be it.

"Let the fight go on; if nobody else will keep on, I will."

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Are you libruls deliberately trying to make Don Blankenship have a sad?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:38 PM
Apr 2016

You never think about the beleaguered mine owners and their predicament, do you? Huh? DO YOU? He might have to go to jail for an entire year because 29 of his employees got themselves killed. Is that fair?

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
3. I am a grandson of Ludlow
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 02:05 PM
Apr 2016

Il mio nonno era li! A big FUCK YOU to those in this country who say Rockefeller built it. He lied and put my ancestors into servitude. They built this country. Not him.

Carnegie was just as bad. What kind of monster does that to his own people?.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
8. Solidarity.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

This kind: "It’s not just her job, or that she and her family is incredibly rich. It’s that Pritzker enriched herself by crashing a bank with sub-prime loans, causing 1,400 people to lose their savings. In addition, a relation of hers was mentioned in the Panama Papers. So while so many were breathlessly reporting on associates of official bad guys like Putin being mentioned in the Panama Papers, hardly a soul noted the Pritzker connection. Finally, and perhaps most incredibly, Forbes several years ago did an investigation in to the Pritzker family and found that they set up shell companies decades ago in ways that would be illegal now. It’s in a sense not just oligarchy, it’s aristocracy. A newly rich person can’t do what they’ve done, according to Forbes. "

The Invisibility of U.S. Oligarchs: The Case of Penny Pritzker

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_invisibility_of_us_oligarchs_the_case_of_penny_pritzker_20160420

As long as the wealthy get their nut and the minons are able to gather crumbs, the rest of us, apparently, can rot in Hell.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. Who made the mine owner? Say the black bells of Rhondda.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:19 PM
Apr 2016

(I'm the grandson of a Welsh immigrant miner who worked the Pennsylvania coal mines.)

The Bells of Rhymney

"The Bells of Rhymney" is a song written by folk singer Pete Seeger and Welsh poet Idris Davies. The lyrics to the song were drawn from Davies' poem "Bells of Rhymney", which was first published in his 1938 book, Gwalia Deserta. The poem, which follows the pattern of the nursery rhyme "Oranges and Lemons", was written about a coal mining disaster and the failure of the 1926 General Strike. In addition to Rhymney, the poem also refers to the bells of a number of other towns and cities in South Wales, including Merthyr, Rhondda, Blaina, Caerphilly, Neath, Swansea, Newport, Cardiff, and Wye. Seeger used the poem as lyrics for his song "The Bells of Rhymney" after discovering them in a book by Dylan Thomas. ....

Arguably the most famous rendition of the song is the version recorded by the American folk rock band The Byrds. ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bells_of_Rhymney




LYRICS:

The Bells of Rhymney

Oh what will you give me?
Say the sad bells of Rhymney.
Is there hope for the future?
Cry the brown bells of Merthyr.
Who made the mine owner?
Say the black bells of Rhondda.
And who killed the miner?
Cry the grim bells of Blaina.

They will plunder will-nilly,
Cry the bells of Caerphilly.
They have fangs, they have teeth,
Shout the loud bells of Neath.
Even God is uneasy,
Say the moist bells of Swansea.
And what will you give me?
Say the sad bells of Rhymney.

Throw the vandals in court,
Say the bells of Newport.
All will be well if, if, if,
Cry the green bells of Cardiff.
Why so worried, sisters why?
Sang the silver bells of Wye.
And what will you give me?
Say the sad bells of Rhymney?

Words from "Gwalia Deserta" by Idris Davies
Music by Pete Seeger
© 1959 & 1964 Ludlow Music, Inc

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
24. Please stop it.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:27 PM
Apr 2016

Ludlow means something to some of us. My grandfather had a hit out on his life from Rockefeller's thugs for reasons that shall remain unsaid. He remained in hiding. He told the story of a five year old boy tied to a wagon while the militia paraded him through the camp and cut his fingers off one by one to intimidate the miners.

The mountain was a cruel mistress. She let you make a living, but she required a tithe, and it had to paid in blood. The switchbacks, the cave-ins, the oligarchs, the scrip and the company store. From the silver mines of Guanajuato to the rich coal at Ludlow, the backs of the men in my family have labored to eek out a living under the earth while the oligarchs from Spain to Sicily to New York grew fat on their labor. Don't diminish this...

Omaha Steve

(99,658 posts)
9. More on the 19 men, women, and children killed in the Ludlow Massacre
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:39 PM
Apr 2016



On this day in Labor History the year was 1914 the bloody anniversary of the Ludlow Massacre.

11,000 miners had gone on strike against the Colorado Fuel and Iron Corporation, owned by one of the wealthiest men in the world, John D. Rockefeller.

2:00 minute audio: http://laborhistoryin2.podbean.com/e/april-20-1429540569/#



Ludlow Massacre Monument Junction of Del Aqua and Colorado and Southern Railroad tracks, Ludlow, CO. This monument marks the site where striking miners and their families were killed in their tent colony on April 20, 1914.


http://www.umwa.org/?q=content/ludlow-massacre



The date April 20, 1914 will forever be a day of infamy for American workers. On that day, 18 innocent men, women and children were killed in the Ludlow Massacre. The coal miners in Colorado and other western states had been trying to join the UMWA for many years. They were bitterly opposed by the coal operators, led by the Colorado Fuel and Iron Company.

Upon striking, the miners and their families had been evicted from their company-owned houses and had set up a tent colony on public property. The massacre occurred in a carefully planned attack on the tent colony by Colorado militiamen, coal company guards, and thugs hired as private detectives and strike breakers. They shot and burned to death 20 people, including a dozen women and small children. Later investigations revealed that kerosene had intentionally been poured on the tents to set them ablaze. The miners had dug foxholes in the tents so the women and children could avoid the bullets that randomly were shot through the tent colony by company thugs. The women and children were found huddled together at the bottoms of their tents.

The Baldwin Felts Detective Agency had been brought in to suppress the Colorado miners. They brought with them an armored car mounted with a machine gun—the Death Special— that roamed the area spraying bullets. The day of the massacre, the miners were celebrating Greek Easter. At 10:00 AM the militia ringed the camp and began firing into the tents upon a signal from the commander, Lt. Karl E. Lindenfelter. Not one of the perpetrators of the slaughter were ever punished, but scores of miners and their leaders were arrested and black-balled from the coal industry.

A monument erected by the UMWA stands today in Ludlow, Colorado in remembrance of the brave and innocent souls who died for freedom and human dignity.

In December, 2008, the U.S. Department of the Interior designated the Ludlow site as a National Historic Landmark. "This is the culmination of years of work by UMWA members, retirees and staff, as well as many hundreds of ordinary citizens who have fought to preserve the memory of this brutal attack on workers and their families," UMWA International President Cecil E. Roberts said.

"The tragic lessons from Ludlow still echo throughout our nation, and they must never be forgotten by Americans who truly care about workplace fairness and equality," Roberts said. "With this designation, the story of what happened at Ludlow will remain part of our nation's history. That is as it should be."

The dedication ceremony was held at Ludlow on June 28, 2009.


Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
33. Know that there was much more to it than just these lives lost.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:22 PM
Apr 2016

Children were shot when the militia (thugs hired from Chicago streets) fired into tents to intimidate the miners. Kids were tortured. Many of the miners were italian and austrian immigrants who spoke italian, or slavics. The governor of Colorado at the time was a known KKK member and hated italians and Catholics.

This was a hate crime initiated to intimidate people to work for free so U.S. Steel could grow.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
11. Thank you for this. I am going to a county Democratic Board
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

meeting tonight. I am going to remind them about what we used to stand for. Probably get thrown out on my ear.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
26. Best of luck. Play them the song.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 08:42 PM
Apr 2016

I introduced my early college kids to it today. Funny, not one (even the one interested in American History) had heard of the Ludlow Massacre.

We discussed the phrase: "Winners write the history books" in this context. Because even though none of them knew Ludlow, they all sure as Hell knew who JD Rockerfeller was.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
31. Our chair brought it up before I had a chance. NE MN is a
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:08 PM
Apr 2016

big Union country and many of us at the table were supporters.

Unfortunately as I walked in I heard a Hillary supporter declaring the primary won and that was the end of my enjoyment. Oh, well we will see.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
32. "Let the fight go on; if nobody else will keep on, I will." ~ Mother Jones
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:19 PM
Apr 2016

That's going to be my motto for the long haul.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
13. The UMWA
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:00 PM
Apr 2016

As somene that was raised on UMWA money (my dad operated the largest coal shovel ever built) and someone that worked in underground coal mines during the summer months of college to pay for college, I actually do appreciate what the UMWA has done for working men and women. However, far too many people have no idea what the UMWA or any other union has done for them. They take that 8 hour work day, 40 hour work week, vacations, health insurance, public education (most have no idea unions pushed the hardest for the average person) and so much more. i keep saying that the day after the last union here in the US shuts its doors, is the day all the above mentioned is gone.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
22. Quote from Abraham Lincoln:
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:36 PM
Apr 2016

"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor,
and would never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior
of capital, and deserves much higher consideration."

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