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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 04:15 PM Apr 2016

TN police arrest kids ages 6-10 yrs old at school for not stepping in to stop a fight off-property

Not. The. Onion.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/04/19/1517378/-TN-police-arrest-kids-ages-6-10-yrs-old-at-school-for-not-stepping-in-to-stop-a-fight-off-property

More than 150 outraged parents packed a community meeting this weekend after news that Murfreesboro police showed up at Hobgood Elementary School last Friday to arrest at least five children, ages 6-10 years old. Their crime? They did not stop a fight that happened in their neighborhood. That’s right, the fight did not even take place at the school. It happened in the backyard of a private home after a disagreement over a basketball game. Parents report is was little more than pushing and shoving. Officials learned of the fight from a video that was circulated. From the Daily Journal News:

A video was taken of the incident and officers later obtained arrest warrants for students who did not break up the disturbance, McConnell said in an interview before the Sunday meeting. Information about who took the video and how the police obtained it were not made clear Sunday.

These young children were arrested not for participating in the fight, but for not stopping it. Why didn’t that six-year-old jump in and take action to break up the fight? He was hauled off to juvenile detention, where he had ample time to think about his actions as an innocent bystander. Needless to say, parents and members of the community are outraged:...

Any way you slice it, these kids did not deserve to be handcuffed in front of their peers, hauled away to juvenile detention without notifying the parents and ultimately headed down the classroom-to-prison pipeline.


And here's the inevitable pic:

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TN police arrest kids ages 6-10 yrs old at school for not stepping in to stop a fight off-property (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2016 OP
OMG! stage left Apr 2016 #1
This continues under Hillary. nt phazed0 Apr 2016 #2
This has nothing to do with the primary gollygee Apr 2016 #3
I know, I'm not talking about the primary. phazed0 Apr 2016 #4
This is not about Hillary or Bernie gollygee Apr 2016 #6
We can agree to disagree. phazed0 Apr 2016 #7
I'd disagree. Jchall2000 Apr 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Apr 2016 #34
The point was I think... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #32
Brilliantly written, thank you! phazed0 Apr 2016 #39
A squirrel keeps getting into my bird feeder. Can I blame Hillary for that, too? Orrex Apr 2016 #9
Red Herring phazed0 Apr 2016 #15
So, when she does the wrong thing, she's a dirty Republican Orrex Apr 2016 #16
No, when you phazed0 Apr 2016 #22
What the hell? How do you figure that? Beaverhausen Apr 2016 #10
1997 phazed0 Apr 2016 #12
OK - do you know how government works? Beaverhausen Apr 2016 #17
Sigh. Do you? phazed0 Apr 2016 #21
I do not believe Hillary was president that year Angry Dragon Apr 2016 #33
No, she was 100% behind her husband, selling it, arguing for it, etc... phazed0 Apr 2016 #35
let us see your proof Angry Dragon Apr 2016 #24
Refer to post 17 and 10, thanks! phazed0 Apr 2016 #25
Oh for God's sake. Get a grip. yardwork Apr 2016 #38
Let me guess. Iggo Apr 2016 #5
Town of Castle Rock vs Gonzales Orrex Apr 2016 #8
And the judge who signed the warrants... n/t tom_kelly Apr 2016 #11
Holy shit--good point. Orrex Apr 2016 #13
Pics of the cops and judge??? KT2000 Apr 2016 #18
Someone needs to point out to the taxpayers of Murfreesboro . . . OldRedneck Apr 2016 #19
Murfreesboro rpannier Apr 2016 #20
Usually college towns are liberal, but Murfreesboro sure is the exception Lars39 Apr 2016 #27
Oh and if they HAD intervened to stop the fight, they would've been arrested for that too. strategery blunder Apr 2016 #23
obtained warrants based on what? blackspade Apr 2016 #26
Yoo hoo, Murfreesboro cops, I didn't break up the fight either, ya wanna come and arrest me? tularetom Apr 2016 #28
It's pretty much settled law that police have no duty to assist someone, JoeyT Apr 2016 #29
Well, except in Latham, Mass. KamaAina Apr 2016 #31
The prison systems must be working on thinking down the line now. C Moon Apr 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author FreedomRain Apr 2016 #36
I think that the community where this happened pennylane100 Apr 2016 #37
 

phazed0

(745 posts)
4. I know, I'm not talking about the primary.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:22 PM
Apr 2016

I'm talking about the US under rule of Hillary. Simply because a name is brought up doesn't mean the subject matter changed.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
6. This is not about Hillary or Bernie
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:23 PM
Apr 2016

and you don't know what she would or wouldn't do, or what she would or wouldn't be able to do. Or, for that matter, what Bernie would or wouldn't be able to do. It isn't the place for Hillary sniping.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
7. We can agree to disagree.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:24 PM
Apr 2016

EDIT:

What you see here, is the result of political positioning for personal political gains at the cost of the people. Largely responsible are the Clintons, with little help from leaders following.

Jchall2000

(30 posts)
14. I'd disagree.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:40 PM
Apr 2016

As much as I personally, am very much a Bernie Sanders supporter-- (Arizona, proud and dying of heat)--- I don't think this has to do with either of the candidates. Perhaps it wouldn't /help/ under Hillary's presidency, should she be elected? But the same could be said for Bernie Sanders. (Not to say that both wouldn't take measures against it. I'm sure they would). At least, in regards to police brutality and unfair treatment, such as for those poor kids.

Response to Jchall2000 (Reply #14)

 

Bohemianwriter

(978 posts)
32. The point was I think...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:04 PM
Apr 2016

that this is an unwanted consequence of the militarized police with a lot of brain dead gorillas gets a uniform and a gun to play sheriff with..
In other words, a consequence of policy making....

This is the result of politics in practice.

The same as when a woman in NC got arrested in a woman's bathroom under suspicion of being a trans woman. Dragged out of the booth with her pants down her knees, hand cuffed in public and basically publicly humiliated. Their real target for this abuse would be trans women.

It's a society hysterical to punish, find scapegoats and inflict power abuse on the powerless

It's what happens when you first impose a deeply racist policy and doubles down by calling KIDS super-predators, effectively dehumanizing the same kids the politicians claim they care so much about.




See the connection?

Or perhaps everything happens out of limbo as if action and reaction, acts and consequences don't exist.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
9. A squirrel keeps getting into my bird feeder. Can I blame Hillary for that, too?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

For a certain sect of increasingly comical Sanders supporters, Hillary is the cause, the proof and the beneficiary of all things wrong in society.

Sanders himself isn't so petty--why are his cheerleaders?

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
15. Red Herring
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

The squirrel wasn't in a position of power nor had the ability to speak out about these things. Hillary did/does, though I'm sure that we will be hearing from her shortly so she can pettily pander to her supporters for short-sighted political gains.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
16. So, when she does the wrong thing, she's a dirty Republican
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

But when she does the correct thing, she's pandering.

As opposed to Sanders, who is a paragon of virtue in all matters political.

Like the F-35, I for example.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
22. No, when you
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

switch your political stance simply based on the current political climate it makes you dirty.

I'm not talking about Sanders, nor defending him on the F-35 - you brought that up.. so stop side-stepping.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
12. 1997
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militarization_of_police

The 1033 program was created by the National Defense Authorization Act of Fiscal Year 1997 as part of the U.S. Government's Defense Logistics Agency Disposition Services (DLA) to transfer excess military equipment to law enforcement agencies.[47] As of 2014, 8,000 local law enforcement agencies participate in the reutilization program that has transferred $5.1 billion in military hardware from the Department of Defense to local American law enforcement agencies since 1997.[citation needed] Police departments have obtained surplus aircraft, bayonets, tactical armored vehicles, weapons, including grenade launchers, and watercraft.[citation needed]

Along with military equipment came military training and tactics, which in turn, leads us to a militaristic police force instead of a 'people's protection force'.

I'm sorry, who was president in 1997?
 

phazed0

(745 posts)
21. Sigh. Do you?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:07 PM
Apr 2016

Excecutive signing order from the Clintons, like Obama did in 2014, would have been nice.. but no, they were complicit in it so they get to own it.

1990-2014[edit]
The "National Defense Authorization Act of 1990", section 1208 authorized transfer of military hardware from the Department of Defense broadly to "federal and state agencies", but specifically "for use in counter-drug activities".[2] [3] as this legislation was passed in the context of the War on Drugs.[4][3] Until 1997, it was called the 1208 program and run by the Department of Defense from the Pentagon and its regional offices.[5]

In 1995, the "Law Enforcement Support Office" was created within the DLA to work exclusively with law enforcement.[5]

With passage of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1997, the 1208 program was expanded to the 1033 program allowing "all law enforcement agencies to acquire property for bona fide law enforcement purposes that assist in their arrest and apprehension mission", and that "Preference is given to counter-drug and counter-terrorism requests".[2]

An inflection point occurred in the fall 2014 after several events brought increasing public scrutiny, and the eventual release of Federal records on the movement of military goods to civilian police forces was made public in December 2014.[6]

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
35. No, she was 100% behind her husband, selling it, arguing for it, etc...
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:16 PM
Apr 2016

but I'm sure that you don't think she believes it though, right? So she lied?

If she is for it, well, I rest my case.

Maybe she can't think for herself and Bill made her do it.

Great.

Do you really think Hillary and Bill are different on the issues!? Lol.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
25. Refer to post 17 and 10, thanks!
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:38 PM
Apr 2016

Let's see yours.

Let's see Hillary's plan for Criminal Justice Reform, not just a speech about it.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
8. Town of Castle Rock vs Gonzales
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016
Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales

The 7-2 decision found that police are not obligated to protect citizens, ruling in essence that the whole "To Serve and Protect" thing is just plain bullshit.

So officers of the law aren't required to do jack shit to protect civilians, but these children were arrested for failing to do what the cops are afraid to do?


Fuck that. I hope that every one of these children receives a multi-million dollar settlement, and the cops who arrested them should be thrown off the force.


Fuck. That.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
13. Holy shit--good point.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

What blows my mind is that, on the off chance that the cops & judge aren't out-of-control racist assholes, can they not understand that this looks like a deliberately sent message?

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
19. Someone needs to point out to the taxpayers of Murfreesboro . . .
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

Cities and police departments carry professional liability insurance to pay off lawsuits. Premiums are based on how many suits are filed and how many $$$ are awarded when someone wins against the city. Expect a HUGE leap in the city's liability insurance premiums -- if they can even find anyone to underwrite them.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
20. Murfreesboro
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 05:56 PM
Apr 2016

The city that was/ is still harassing people over the Mosque being built
Hell of a town and one of the last places in the US I'd want to live

strategery blunder

(4,225 posts)
23. Oh and if they HAD intervened to stop the fight, they would've been arrested for that too.
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:33 PM
Apr 2016

Zero tolerance, ya know. Can't have the young'uns even stepping towards someone else, no siree! Because that would be FIGHTING!

Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.

Welcome to the School to Prison Pipeline, kids!

Zero tolerance=zero logic. Where kids can get expelled for curling up in the fetal position because they "touched" their attacker, never mind the concept of self-defense, let alone defense of another.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
26. obtained warrants based on what?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:45 PM
Apr 2016

Being black?
Cops are out of fucking control.
And what stupid asshole judge approved these 'warrants'?

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
28. Yoo hoo, Murfreesboro cops, I didn't break up the fight either, ya wanna come and arrest me?
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

In fact there are approximately 300 million of us US citizens who failed to break up that fight.

Those kids are no guiltier than the rest of us, so there must have been some other motive at play.

Hmm, looking at the picture, wonder what it could be?

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
29. It's pretty much settled law that police have no duty to assist someone,
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016

so it's bizarre beyond belief that anyone would think bystanders would. Much less the same cops that don't have a duty to assist.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
37. I think that the community where this happened
Wed Apr 20, 2016, 07:33 PM
Apr 2016

should work hard at making the lives of these cops "a living hell" I would like to see the community follow them from morning till night with their camera phones capturing their every move.

If my kids had been subjected to such cruel and illegal behavior, I would make the cops and especially the moronic judge that signed off on the warrant, understand that if they too can be made to fear for the safety of their families. I would do nothing illegal but I would work hard to scare the shit out of them so they can understand the damage they have done to these young children.

However, I would hold off for a while as I believe there is a lot of truth in the old proverb "Revenge is a dish best served cold"

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