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Or will it just disappear because there is no leader?
Or are we simply witnessing the birth of a movement and it will continue to grow regardless if there is a leader?
djean111
(14,255 posts)get the nomination. So I will go where I can find a home.
When a Democrat says we are asking for ideological purity when we don't want to support a candidate who is for war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and regime changes and means-testing Social Security and adding restrictions for abortions and in the pocket of Wall Street - then the Democratic Party has left me.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)When they chide us for our "purity", they are really trying to bully us into accepting their point-of-view.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Initech
(100,080 posts)And Occupy was a direct result of the anti war movement during the George W era.
And I am hoping that Bernie gets the nomination but if it wasn't meant to be, then something else will come along in the next election cycle- whether it's the midterms or 2020, who knows?
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)Of course Sanders' "movement" will die. Personality based movements usually do (unless your name is Castro). His ardent followers had no interest in politics before they discovered Sanders and there's no reason to believe they'll have any interest post-Sanders.
No third party will emerge because - as Sanders realized - third parties don't have a chance of winning in this country.
The only way for the far-left/über-progressives to have their voices better heard is by reforming the Democratic Party. To do that, you need to join the party and work from within to change things. That means making a multi-year commitment to a cause, working tedious low-level jobs within the organization, slowly moving up the ladder until years later, you gain a position of influence within the party.
I don't see that these DINOs for Sanders voters have any interest or desire to do the real, tough work required to make real political change. They want change their way or else, and yesterday.
That said, the long-dormant progressive wing of the Democratic Party has been awakened. There is a chance for growth here, but only as a widening of the big tent, not as a rebranding of the Party itself.
maxrandb
(15,333 posts)it can become a powerful tool to help hold politicians feet to the fire.
Again, we/they (because we really are quite close in philosophy) may not get everything they want, but we/they must keep pushing.
Did women quit trying to make our world better and gain equality once they got the vote?
and that alone was quite a long struggle
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)And why they aren't going to be patient.
Their future relies on having a place to live, which our generations have trashed. It's about climate change. I didn't know this until this election. Now I'm listening to the younger generations. In fact, I belong more to theirs then my own.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Sheesh.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Johnyawl
(3,205 posts)What the hell is Elizabeth Warren? She's provided more progressive leadership in the past 4 years than Sanders had in the past 30.