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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMcDonalds Customer Faces Robbery Charge After Emptying Cup Of Water And Filling It With Soda
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mcdonalds-customer-faces-robbery-charge-after-141650387.html?nhp=1A McDonalds customer faces a robbery charge after he allegedly emptied his cup of water and filled it with soda.
The manager of the restaurant in Springdale, Arkansas, says that 18-year-old Cody Morris was one of three people who asked for water at the drive-thru window - before entering the store and filling the cups with soda.
But the trio were spotted by the manager, who immediately asked them to return the drinks.
Two of the group co-operated with the request, but Morris refused and left the restaurant.
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Springdale Police say that the theft became a robbery when The alleged suspect allegedly used force to resist apprehension by the store employees.
MattP
(3,304 posts)And hasn't everyone done it
msongs
(67,413 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)sense
(1,219 posts)That's your price?
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)check out poster's profile page.
cloudbase
(5,519 posts)WhiteTara
(29,718 posts)in backing up.
EX500rider
(10,849 posts)Not anybody I know.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)I won't say any more.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)Huh.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)It seems he thought he owned the place.
EllieBC
(3,014 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)ohnoyoudidnt
(1,858 posts)However, most companies forbid this practice because people get hurt like what happened here. 5 or 10 cents in soda, which is probably what he took certainly isn't worth risking your safety . No amount is really, especially if the cost is on the company or insured.
Chances are the manager violated store policy and will be dealt with in some way.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It's one thing if the person detained is guilty. What I find interesting is what happens when an innocent person is accused, walks away, and the shopkeeper attempts to violently detain them. Legally, the innocent person is attacked and self-defense is always a right.
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)Fill them up with soda-sneakers! That is absurd.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Must have needed something to wash that loaf of bread down.
villager
(26,001 posts)Jean Valjean, indeed.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Really, it sounds like he was just being a prick.
villager
(26,001 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Seems like the same thing.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)Because that's why this guy is getting arrested. He decided to run someone over when leaving.
Typical deceptive headline. Makes it seem like he was arrested for stealing the soda.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)At present, Morris is facing one charge of felony robbery, which carries a sentence of up to six years in jail, and/or a fine of up to $10,000.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)THEN are shocked when water buying (?) people try to steal soda...
Hey, it would never occur to me to do what these people did...nor would I try to escape, if I did such a thing and was caught, all I would do is hang my head.
I say 'water buying (?)' cause does McDonalds charge for water?
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Blame the victim much?
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Remember Regan Greed is good!
Lancero
(3,003 posts)This is why he's getting arrested.
The manager then ran out of the store and tried to block Morris car from leaving - but Morris then allegedly drove his car in reverse and hit the worker twice before speeding away.
He's not getting arrested over stealing soda. He getting arrested for his hit and run on the manager.
People really need to learn to read a article. You never know when a OP will leave out parts of it in hopes of making commenters look like fools.
kcr
(15,317 posts)And that when they disagree it doesn't mean they didn't read the article.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)Lancero
(3,003 posts)the theft became a robbery when The alleged suspect allegedly used force
It became a robbery because - and only because - the suspect decided to use force (ie - run someone over) when leaving.
kcr
(15,317 posts)See, I thought robbery involved theft. Yep, I'm pretty sure it does.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)It wouldn't be a robbery.
All robberys are thefts. But not all thefts are robberys. It's only when force is used that makes a theft a robbery.
Defend this persons choice to run someone over all you want.
kcr
(15,317 posts)You're right. Not all thefts are robberies. And this one wasn't. There was no need for that manager to chase him. No sane, reasonable person would have. Someone who would risk his life for a cup of soda is scary. The guy running from crazy manager might have been afraid for his life.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)Got any other victims you want to blame while you're at it?
kcr
(15,317 posts)I'm saying charging the kid with robbery is ridiculous, because he didn't commit robbery.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)The smart thing to do would have been to write the license plate down.
But you'll forgive me if I'm not bowled over with sympathy for the chucklehead who decided that stealing a fucking drink was worth all this crap, including trying to run some poor underpaid dude over with his car.
kcr
(15,317 posts)I don't particularly have any sympathy for him. But, I don't think that's required for thinking it's ridiculous to charge someone for robbery when they didn't rob anything.
malaise
(269,024 posts)Guess the private prisons need people
linuxman
(2,337 posts)That manager shouldn't have run after them for something like that to begin with. Stupid manager's fault.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The kid tried to run over the manager.
Unless you're trying to be clever and point out some typo, I didn't say the manager ran anyone over. That wasn't what I was trying to say, anyway.
DesMoinesDem
(1,569 posts)kcr
(15,317 posts)linuxman
(2,337 posts)The piece of shit shouldn't have stolen, let alone proceeded to add several poor decisions on top of it.
kcr
(15,317 posts)Personally, I don't think it's worth risking ones life and limb to defend. I'd especially think that if my employer didn't think this liquid gold was worth putting behind the counter to protect, then why should I bother taking a bullet for it? They say the stuff is addictive and I guess they weren't kidding!
Sorry. It was a stupid thing for that manager to do. His majorly idiotic decision did not turn theft of a cup of soda into robbery. Not everyone is a caffeine addled soda addict and thinks this way.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)Personally, I wouldn't have followed him outside, but that in no way diminishes him assaulting the employee with the car. I'm not sure why you think the manager was caffeine addled or soda addicted based on confronting a thief in the store they were in charge of, but whatever.
kcr
(15,317 posts)I'm glad you wouldn't have followed him outside. I think most reasonable people wouldn't have. I'm also glad you detest thievery. I'm not too fond of it, myself. I also hate trumped up bullshit charges like robbery when it's a cup of soda. Utter nonsense. I also believe in shared culpability. I think it's very possible that someone who is crazy enough to chase someone over a cup of soda is a dangerous person, someone reasonable people would rightfully be afraid of. I don't supportthievery, but I also believe in proportional responses.
Lancero
(3,003 posts)He was the victim of a hit and run. And you're saying 'well, he shouldn't have put himself in that situiation!'.
Victim blaming, plain and simple.
Ah well. You're not the only one who engages in victim blaming, and hit and run victims aren't the only ones that people decide to blame.
kcr
(15,317 posts)Lancero
(3,003 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I say 3 years and 5 probation. The more the better. He clearly has anger issues and needs those addressed in the jail during weekly sessions.
kcr
(15,317 posts)Although three years is way too much.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Doesn't change the fact that the kid then tried ot run him over. See, the manager giving chase over half a cent worth of sugar water does not justify, excuse, or nullify the vehicular assault that followed.
kcr
(15,317 posts)JEB
(4,748 posts)robertgodardfromnj
(67 posts)But a robbery charge? Kind of excessive if you ask me.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)Yes, stealing a cup of soda then hitting someone with the car while trying to flee was excessive.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)When he took it in the manager's presence, even without the whole car thing, it became robbery.
Robbery is more serious and requires taking from the control of a person.
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hunter
(38,316 posts)This is just sad.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Having worked my share of shitty low wage jobs dealing with complete asshole members of the public, I sort of sympathize with the employee here.
coyote
(1,561 posts)While we fight amongst ourselves. Distract, divide, and conquer.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)For calling that watered down crap - soda.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)not the "taking the soda".
It was a stupid move, he should have just dumped the cup out or whatever.
Not the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree, clearly.