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WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 03:18 PM Apr 2016

McDonalds Customer Faces Robbery Charge After Emptying Cup Of Water And Filling It With Soda

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mcdonalds-customer-faces-robbery-charge-after-141650387.html?nhp=1

A McDonalds customer faces a robbery charge after he allegedly emptied his cup of water and filled it with soda.

The manager of the restaurant in Springdale, Arkansas, says that 18-year-old Cody Morris was one of three people who asked for water at the drive-thru window - before entering the store and filling the cups with soda.

But the trio were spotted by the manager, who immediately asked them to return the drinks.

Two of the group co-operated with the request, but Morris refused and left the restaurant.

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Springdale Police say that the theft became a robbery when ‘The alleged suspect allegedly used force to resist apprehension by the store employees.’

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McDonalds Customer Faces Robbery Charge After Emptying Cup Of Water And Filling It With Soda (Original Post) WhiteTara Apr 2016 OP
Isn't it a misdemeanor? MattP Apr 2016 #1
umm no, most people think theft is dishonorable nt msongs Apr 2016 #2
I suspect most would also consider robbery even more so Major Nikon Apr 2016 #21
Really? Everyone's done it? sense Apr 2016 #5
Psst. Want a good chuckle? notadmblnd Apr 2016 #52
I haven't. n/t cloudbase Apr 2016 #7
until he struck the employees with his car WhiteTara Apr 2016 #8
Everyone has ordered water in the drive through & then went in to steal soda they didn't pay for? EX500rider Apr 2016 #10
No, everyone hasn't done it dumbcat Apr 2016 #11
Everyone has ran someone over with their car? Lancero Apr 2016 #16
It becomes robbery if they threaten to use force (nt) Recursion Apr 2016 #31
Nope. Never in my life. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2016 #35
No and he may get an assault charge added hopefully yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #56
No, I pay for my stuff. Why would I steal a cup of pop? EllieBC Apr 2016 #62
A store employee is allowed to apprehend and detain someone? Cassiopeia Apr 2016 #3
merchants are legally allowed to detain thieves until the police arrive. ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2016 #13
I always find the Merchant Privilege an interesting principle. NutmegYankee Apr 2016 #34
Quick, build some more for-profit prisons! My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #4
I admit it! I'm Jean Valjean! KamaAina Apr 2016 #6
A lot of posters here are certainly "miserable" -- of spirit, at least. villager Apr 2016 #54
I doubt drink stealing dude was literally starving for a cup full of dr. pepper or whatever. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #61
Nonetheless, there is a certain poverty of spirit that is too often "abundant" on this site. nt villager Apr 2016 #69
No different than stealing a bottle of soda from a grocery store oberliner Apr 2016 #9
Does that involve running someone over? Lancero Apr 2016 #15
No oberliner Apr 2016 #18
That's exactly what he was arrested for Major Nikon Apr 2016 #22
McDonalds tries to save money by making customers get their own sodas angstlessk Apr 2016 #12
How dare McDonalds expect customers to be honest. NobodyHere Apr 2016 #20
McDonalds does not expect their employees to be honest angstlessk Apr 2016 #23
Read the article, this isn't why he's getting arrested. Lancero Apr 2016 #14
People really need to learn that not everyone on the internet will agree with them kcr Apr 2016 #24
Considering so many are saying 'he got arrested for stealing soda!!!', I'd say that many didn't. Lancero Apr 2016 #36
But the charge is robbery. So, they're correct. n/t kcr Apr 2016 #39
Read the article, and you'll see that they aren't. Lancero Apr 2016 #41
So, are you saying when someone hits someone with a car, that's called robbery? kcr Apr 2016 #42
It involves theft yes. But if it wasn't for him deciding to GTA the manager. Lancero Apr 2016 #46
If the manager hadn't run behind his car, there would have been no one to "GTA" kcr Apr 2016 #48
Defend a hit and run how you wish. Lancero Apr 2016 #51
I'm not defending hit and run kcr Apr 2016 #64
The manager didn't handle it terribly intelligently, no. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #60
I'm not saying you have to have any sympathy for him. kcr Apr 2016 #65
FFS malaise Apr 2016 #17
For trying to assault someone with a vehicle? Damn straight. linuxman Apr 2016 #19
Ridiculous kcr Apr 2016 #25
The manger didnt run over anybody Travis_0004 Apr 2016 #26
What? kcr Apr 2016 #28
Blaming the victim. Ridiculous. DesMoinesDem Apr 2016 #27
Defending an idiot who stood behind someone's car for a damn cup of soda. Ridiculous n/t kcr Apr 2016 #29
Pure, unadulterated, grade A victim blaming. linuxman Apr 2016 #33
Wow. Guess you really like soda. kcr Apr 2016 #38
No, I just detest thievery. linuxman Apr 2016 #44
Who knows what addled the manager? Could be something a lot stronger than caffeine. kcr Apr 2016 #47
Still blaming the manager rather then the one who ran em over. Lancero Apr 2016 #45
You bet I am. Rambo manager should have stayed in the store. nt kcr Apr 2016 #49
Keep doubling down on that victim blaming. Lancero Apr 2016 #50
The guy will do time yeoman6987 Apr 2016 #57
I don't recall arguing for no prison time. kcr Apr 2016 #66
Yup, it was silly on the manager's part Scootaloo Apr 2016 #53
I don't recall arguing otherwise, see. n/t kcr Apr 2016 #68
Stick to the water. Soda will steal your health. nt JEB Apr 2016 #30
The customer was being cheap robertgodardfromnj Apr 2016 #32
The customer was being a thief. linuxman Apr 2016 #37
If he had taken the soda from a closed, unoccupied restaurant, it would be theft. Thor_MN Apr 2016 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Apr 2016 #67
Oh my. All this fuss over a bit of sugar water? hunter Apr 2016 #40
Nah, I think the fuss is that he then tried to run the manager over with his car. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #59
I'm sure the bankers are having a good laugh at this story coyote Apr 2016 #43
McDonalds should be charged with theft Mnpaul Apr 2016 #55
I think the "serious crime" part here is trying to run the manager over with his car Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #58

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
10. Everyone has ordered water in the drive through & then went in to steal soda they didn't pay for?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 04:17 PM
Apr 2016

Not anybody I know.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
13. merchants are legally allowed to detain thieves until the police arrive.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:19 PM
Apr 2016

However, most companies forbid this practice because people get hurt like what happened here. 5 or 10 cents in soda, which is probably what he took certainly isn't worth risking your safety . No amount is really, especially if the cost is on the company or insured.

Chances are the manager violated store policy and will be dealt with in some way.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
34. I always find the Merchant Privilege an interesting principle.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:58 PM
Apr 2016

It's one thing if the person detained is guilty. What I find interesting is what happens when an innocent person is accused, walks away, and the shopkeeper attempts to violently detain them. Legally, the innocent person is attacked and self-defense is always a right.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
61. I doubt drink stealing dude was literally starving for a cup full of dr. pepper or whatever.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:12 AM
Apr 2016

Really, it sounds like he was just being a prick.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
15. Does that involve running someone over?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

Because that's why this guy is getting arrested. He decided to run someone over when leaving.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
22. That's exactly what he was arrested for
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
Apr 2016
Springdale Police say that the theft became a robbery when ‘The alleged suspect allegedly used force to resist apprehension by the store employees.’

At present, Morris is facing one charge of felony robbery, which carries a sentence of up to six years in jail, and/or a fine of up to $10,000.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
12. McDonalds tries to save money by making customers get their own sodas
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:07 PM
Apr 2016

THEN are shocked when water buying (?) people try to steal soda...

Hey, it would never occur to me to do what these people did...nor would I try to escape, if I did such a thing and was caught, all I would do is hang my head.

I say 'water buying (?)' cause does McDonalds charge for water?

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
14. Read the article, this isn't why he's getting arrested.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

This is why he's getting arrested.

The manager then ran out of the store and tried to block Morris’ car from leaving - but Morris then allegedly drove his car in reverse and hit the worker twice before speeding away.


He's not getting arrested over stealing soda. He getting arrested for his hit and run on the manager.

People really need to learn to read a article. You never know when a OP will leave out parts of it in hopes of making commenters look like fools.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
24. People really need to learn that not everyone on the internet will agree with them
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

And that when they disagree it doesn't mean they didn't read the article.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
36. Considering so many are saying 'he got arrested for stealing soda!!!', I'd say that many didn't.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:59 PM
Apr 2016

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
41. Read the article, and you'll see that they aren't.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:24 PM
Apr 2016
the theft became a robbery when ‘The alleged suspect allegedly used force


It became a robbery because - and only because - the suspect decided to use force (ie - run someone over) when leaving.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
42. So, are you saying when someone hits someone with a car, that's called robbery?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:28 PM
Apr 2016

See, I thought robbery involved theft. Yep, I'm pretty sure it does.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
46. It involves theft yes. But if it wasn't for him deciding to GTA the manager.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:32 PM
Apr 2016

It wouldn't be a robbery.

All robberys are thefts. But not all thefts are robberys. It's only when force is used that makes a theft a robbery.

Defend this persons choice to run someone over all you want.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
48. If the manager hadn't run behind his car, there would have been no one to "GTA"
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:38 PM
Apr 2016

You're right. Not all thefts are robberies. And this one wasn't. There was no need for that manager to chase him. No sane, reasonable person would have. Someone who would risk his life for a cup of soda is scary. The guy running from crazy manager might have been afraid for his life.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
64. I'm not defending hit and run
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

I'm saying charging the kid with robbery is ridiculous, because he didn't commit robbery.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
60. The manager didn't handle it terribly intelligently, no.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:10 AM
Apr 2016

The smart thing to do would have been to write the license plate down.

But you'll forgive me if I'm not bowled over with sympathy for the chucklehead who decided that stealing a fucking drink was worth all this crap, including trying to run some poor underpaid dude over with his car.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
65. I'm not saying you have to have any sympathy for him.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:28 AM
Apr 2016

I don't particularly have any sympathy for him. But, I don't think that's required for thinking it's ridiculous to charge someone for robbery when they didn't rob anything.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
25. Ridiculous
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

That manager shouldn't have run after them for something like that to begin with. Stupid manager's fault.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
28. What?
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:48 PM
Apr 2016

Unless you're trying to be clever and point out some typo, I didn't say the manager ran anyone over. That wasn't what I was trying to say, anyway.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
33. Pure, unadulterated, grade A victim blaming.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:56 PM
Apr 2016

The piece of shit shouldn't have stolen, let alone proceeded to add several poor decisions on top of it.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
38. Wow. Guess you really like soda.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:06 PM
Apr 2016

Personally, I don't think it's worth risking ones life and limb to defend. I'd especially think that if my employer didn't think this liquid gold was worth putting behind the counter to protect, then why should I bother taking a bullet for it? They say the stuff is addictive and I guess they weren't kidding!

Sorry. It was a stupid thing for that manager to do. His majorly idiotic decision did not turn theft of a cup of soda into robbery. Not everyone is a caffeine addled soda addict and thinks this way.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
44. No, I just detest thievery.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:30 PM
Apr 2016

Personally, I wouldn't have followed him outside, but that in no way diminishes him assaulting the employee with the car. I'm not sure why you think the manager was caffeine addled or soda addicted based on confronting a thief in the store they were in charge of, but whatever.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
47. Who knows what addled the manager? Could be something a lot stronger than caffeine.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:35 PM
Apr 2016

I'm glad you wouldn't have followed him outside. I think most reasonable people wouldn't have. I'm also glad you detest thievery. I'm not too fond of it, myself. I also hate trumped up bullshit charges like robbery when it's a cup of soda. Utter nonsense. I also believe in shared culpability. I think it's very possible that someone who is crazy enough to chase someone over a cup of soda is a dangerous person, someone reasonable people would rightfully be afraid of. I don't supportthievery, but I also believe in proportional responses.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
45. Still blaming the manager rather then the one who ran em over.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:30 PM
Apr 2016

He was the victim of a hit and run. And you're saying 'well, he shouldn't have put himself in that situiation!'.

Victim blaming, plain and simple.

Ah well. You're not the only one who engages in victim blaming, and hit and run victims aren't the only ones that people decide to blame.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
57. The guy will do time
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:50 AM
Apr 2016

I say 3 years and 5 probation. The more the better. He clearly has anger issues and needs those addressed in the jail during weekly sessions.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
53. Yup, it was silly on the manager's part
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016

Doesn't change the fact that the kid then tried ot run him over. See, the manager giving chase over half a cent worth of sugar water does not justify, excuse, or nullify the vehicular assault that followed.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
37. The customer was being a thief.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

Yes, stealing a cup of soda then hitting someone with the car while trying to flee was excessive.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
63. If he had taken the soda from a closed, unoccupied restaurant, it would be theft.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:58 AM
Apr 2016

When he took it in the manager's presence, even without the whole car thing, it became robbery.

Robbery is more serious and requires taking from the control of a person.

Response to Thor_MN (Reply #63)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
59. Nah, I think the fuss is that he then tried to run the manager over with his car.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:07 AM
Apr 2016

Having worked my share of shitty low wage jobs dealing with complete asshole members of the public, I sort of sympathize with the employee here.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
43. I'm sure the bankers are having a good laugh at this story
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016

While we fight amongst ourselves. Distract, divide, and conquer.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
58. I think the "serious crime" part here is trying to run the manager over with his car
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:06 AM
Apr 2016

not the "taking the soda".

It was a stupid move, he should have just dumped the cup out or whatever.

Not the brightest bulb on the Xmas tree, clearly.

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