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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:17 PM Apr 2016

Kasich: I oppose DC statehood because it would give more votes to Dems

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/277109-kasich-suggests-he-opposes-dc-voting-rights-because-thats-just

Republican presidential hopeful John Kasich says he opposes voting rights in Congress for Washington, D.C., in part because it would give more votes to the Democratic Party.

During a meeting with the Washington Post editorial board, Kasich was asked about his vote against statehood for the District while he was in Congress and whether that was still his position.

“Yes, I would say it probably is,” he said, according to a transcript of the meeting....

“What it really gets down to, if you want to be honest, is because they know that’s just more votes in the Democratic Party,” Kasich said.


Ah yes, the sane, reasonable one.
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Kasich: I oppose DC statehood because it would give more votes to Dems (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2016 OP
In Ohio 2012 Obama won this state by >150,000 votes (could have been higher but we have a R Botany Apr 2016 #1
He is just another fucking GOP clown liberal N proud Apr 2016 #2
No different than saying you are in favor of Voter ID because you know it will help you. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #26
At least he's honest about it. jg10003 Apr 2016 #3
Right. elleng Apr 2016 #19
I agree Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #27
No, he's really STUPID to let slip his dismissal Hortensis Apr 2016 #29
I really don't think that... gregcrawford Apr 2016 #43
And no follow up question... MrScorpio Apr 2016 #4
If voters are likely to vote for the other party - they shouldn't be allowed to vote. salin Apr 2016 #5
Kasich believes in one person, one vote -- unless you're a Democrat LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2016 #6
That is EXACTLY what he is saying NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #9
Only by visceral comparison; chapdrum Apr 2016 #22
That's the reasoning behind their anti-voter policies. trotsky Apr 2016 #15
Its denial, republican days are numbered Kokonoe Apr 2016 #57
I don't think DC should be a state. FLPanhandle Apr 2016 #7
So carve-outs? elleng Apr 2016 #17
Virginia took its portion back in the runup to the War of Northern Aggression. KamaAina Apr 2016 #25
How would Duers feel about DC statehood NobodyHere Apr 2016 #8
That it was the right thing to do for the people of DC TransitJohn Apr 2016 #11
DUers generally support early voting, vote by mail, etc. Democat Apr 2016 #37
I don't believe that it should even be included in the discussion. King_Klonopin Apr 2016 #41
These fuckers TransitJohn Apr 2016 #10
admits voter suppression!! oldandhappy Apr 2016 #12
Politics, as a practice, whatever its professions, has always been the systematic organization of vkkv Apr 2016 #13
We should push for statehood for Puerto Rico. tclambert Apr 2016 #14
It might be the only way out of their king-hell debt crisis KamaAina Apr 2016 #23
Actually 1939 Apr 2016 #32
They don't want it - taxes jmowreader Apr 2016 #40
At least he SAID what we've all known for millenia! elleng Apr 2016 #16
Well, he gets points for honesty... joeybee12 Apr 2016 #18
At least he's honest. Nitram Apr 2016 #20
This is the same reason they love chapdrum Apr 2016 #21
Says the guy who was working as Managing Director for Lehman Brothers in 2008. eilen Apr 2016 #24
Kasich favors taxation without representation! Way to go, John, you fucking idiot! Enthusiast Apr 2016 #28
One Man One Vote is less important than GOP interests??? houston16revival Apr 2016 #30
At least he didn't say "Democrat Party." subterranean Apr 2016 #31
yup Skittles Apr 2016 #34
Using a proper noun in place of its correct form as a modifying adjective. maddiemom Apr 2016 #55
I didn't catch that at first! Embarrassing slip of the tongue for him. maddiemom Apr 2016 #54
Kasich: I oppose DC statehood because ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2016 #33
Fuck you Kasich 47of74 Apr 2016 #35
Because ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #36
And the democratic party Turbineguy Apr 2016 #38
At least some republiscammers... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #39
Why hide the truth? sellitman Apr 2016 #42
infants greymouse Apr 2016 #44
Just like photo id to vote. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #45
It is insane and wrong, wrong, wrong! moose65 Apr 2016 #46
DC has its own house member, Eleanor Holmes Norton KamaAina Apr 2016 #47
Well yeah... moose65 Apr 2016 #49
No Senators, either. Each state gets 2, regardless of size. nt King_Klonopin Apr 2016 #53
^^^this^^^ Freddie Apr 2016 #51
suppress the vote blackspade Apr 2016 #48
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #50
Should we appreciate his honesty in saying out loud what we've known all along? Eugene Apr 2016 #52
He's loyal to his party, but not to his country W T F Apr 2016 #56

Botany

(70,516 posts)
1. In Ohio 2012 Obama won this state by >150,000 votes (could have been higher but we have a R
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:32 PM
Apr 2016

for Sec. of State and electronic voting machines) and Sen. Brown was re-elected by 8 or 10
points (I think those #s are right) but only 4 of the 15 Congressional seats were won by Ds
because of gerrymandering. So we had more people voting for democrats but we got more
republicans elected to the House. Kasich and the Ohio Republicans know they are cheating
and cutting out democratic votes (ALEC's plan for gerrymandering) and they don't care and
good old John is down on his knees praying to JEEBUZ to give him wisdom.

liberal N proud

(60,336 posts)
2. He is just another fucking GOP clown
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 08:43 PM
Apr 2016

No less looney than the others both currently in and out of the race.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
26. No different than saying you are in favor of Voter ID because you know it will help you.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:10 PM
Apr 2016

Republicans despise democracy, always have.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. No, he's really STUPID to let slip his dismissal
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 06:32 PM
Apr 2016

of the concept of government of, for, and by the people.

Of course, he was one of the founding members of ALEC, we always knew that, but he has a major foot-in-mouth problem.

The more I read of his comments, the genuinely more stupid and arrogant he sounds. Another W, complete with religion. He clearly believes that he's wiser and more principled than most people, especially women and minorities, including as we now know Jewish scholars. And, as a server of God, he also has an authoritarian duty to help us immoral slobs turn in the right direction. The one he chooses for us.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
43. I really don't think that...
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 04:39 PM
Apr 2016

... honesty has anything to do with it. He's a Republican, for chrissake; he's congenitally incapable of discerning the truth, never mind telling it. Insufferable arrogance from knowing that the power structure protects him no matter WHAT the fuck he says or does, is far more likely.

My hatred of conservatism burns hotter than the surface of the Sun.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
4. And no follow up question...
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:47 PM
Apr 2016

Asking him if he'd support DC statehood if it had given more support to Republicans, right?

I wonder what his answer would be.

salin

(48,955 posts)
5. If voters are likely to vote for the other party - they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:50 PM
Apr 2016

Isn't that just what he said?

6. Kasich believes in one person, one vote -- unless you're a Democrat
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:40 AM
Apr 2016

It pretty much mirrors the purpose of Voter ID laws.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
9. That is EXACTLY what he is saying
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:10 AM
Apr 2016

Kasich is the sanest and most moderate of the Republican presidential candidates. That in itself says a lot.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
15. That's the reasoning behind their anti-voter policies.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:55 AM
Apr 2016

Voter ID, etc. They now feel free to admit it openly.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. I don't think DC should be a state.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:44 AM
Apr 2016

Let the residents vote with Virginia & Maryland along their original borders. Those two states gave up territory to form the District not to form a new state.


 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
25. Virginia took its portion back in the runup to the War of Northern Aggression.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:09 PM
Apr 2016


If you look at a map, the boundary of Arlington fits almost perfectly with that of DC, except for a tiny piece of Alexandria at the very bottom.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
37. DUers generally support early voting, vote by mail, etc.
Sat Apr 23, 2016, 07:42 AM
Apr 2016

Those things all benefit Republicans in some places, but they are the right thing to do.

If more people vote, Democrats will win more in the long run, even if every single small decision doesn't benefit us. Why? Because Democrats today are on the right side of history compared to Republicans.

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
41. I don't believe that it should even be included in the discussion.
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 05:59 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 06:49 AM - Edit history (1)

The people who live in D.C. feel they are not represented properly, and
they are asking to be given the full and equal rights of statehood -- along
with reps and senators. Sadly, this would require action by the legislature,
which is presently incapable of making a non-partisan ruling. But, public
opinion should be framed in response to this question: Do the people of D.C.
deserve statehood and congressional representation ? ... regardless of which
party may benefit.

It is much less egregious than gerrymandering, which favors the R's
all over the country.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
10. These fuckers
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 10:18 AM
Apr 2016

They're so brazenly political about everything. Doesn't give two shits about representation for the people themselves, fundamental fairness, or equal representation. Just the GOP and nothing else. Fuck those fucking fucks.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
12. admits voter suppression!!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:10 AM
Apr 2016

Very important strategy for repubs. Actually, I have the feeling clinton is trying to use it against Bernie folk so maybe not specific to one party.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
13. Politics, as a practice, whatever its professions, has always been the systematic organization of
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:15 AM
Apr 2016

hatreds. -Henry Adams, historian and teacher (16 Feb 1838-1918)

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
14. We should push for statehood for Puerto Rico.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 11:40 AM
Apr 2016

and stimulate the flag-making industry. Gotta make flags with more stars.

Seriously, Puerto Rico's population exceeds something like 22 current states. Don't these Americans deserve representation?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
23. It might be the only way out of their king-hell debt crisis
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 04:23 PM
Apr 2016

foisted upon them by stateside banksters, of course.

1939

(1,683 posts)
32. Actually
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

The Republican party in PR has always been the "statehood party" while the Democratic Party has traditionally been the 'commonwealth party" with the extreme left the "independence party".

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
21. This is the same reason they love
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 03:46 PM
Apr 2016

gerrymandering, and voter suppression.

Such staunch believers in democracy.

And yet, repeatedly taken seriously, for this and so many examples.


eilen

(4,950 posts)
24. Says the guy who was working as Managing Director for Lehman Brothers in 2008.
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:00 PM
Apr 2016

Some idiots elected him to then run a state.

SMH

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
28. Kasich favors taxation without representation! Way to go, John, you fucking idiot!
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

Clearly unfit to be president as he doesn't believe in the founding principles.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
55. Using a proper noun in place of its correct form as a modifying adjective.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:21 AM
Apr 2016

What really makes me crazy is that gradually more and more Democrats are beginning to do the same. Any who do so are in need of a sharp slap on the wrist and some serious re-education.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
33. Kasich: I oppose DC statehood because ...
Fri Apr 22, 2016, 09:45 PM
Apr 2016

... "That would make more mean people who don't like me able to vote." ...

... To quote The Honorable Elizabeth Warren ...

... "Boo-Hoo" ...

sellitman

(11,607 posts)
42. Why hide the truth?
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:11 AM
Apr 2016

He looks at the GOP front runner and knows he doesn't have to. It's quite simple.

greymouse

(872 posts)
44. infants
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 08:36 PM
Apr 2016

States have come in in opposite party pairs for about the last century.

Nothing to see here, move along.

moose65

(3,167 posts)
46. It is insane and wrong, wrong, wrong!
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 01:44 PM
Apr 2016

There are 675,000 people who live in Washington, DC... more than in the entire states of Wyoming and Vermont. It is absolutely un-American that they do not have representation in the House and the Senate. I understand the political side of this - for years, the Republican solution was to add them to Maryland, which is already a blue state, and the Democratic solution was to add them to Virginia and turn that state blue. In the meantime, though, the growth of the suburbs of DC in Virginia has effectively already turned Virginia blue. What's the solution? I think we should have this discussion in the broader context of increasing the size of the House. I think we need many, many more Congressional districts. After the next census in 2020, we will see many states whose population has increased, but who will lose House seats because the population didn't increase fast enough. I think that the solution for DC would be to let the residents of DC vote for Senators in Maryland; and then we increase the size of the House and give DC its own House member, as well as adding 100 (?) seats to the House. The Repubs, of course, will be against this but history is on OUR side - the size of the House was routinely increased after each census until 1920, when it wasn't done - and guess who was in charge of Congress at the time?? Yep, the Republicans, who also passed the law in 1929 fixing the size of the House at 435. I don't know what the ideal size would be, but I'm guessing that adding 100 seats would be a good number!

moose65

(3,167 posts)
49. Well yeah...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:29 PM
Apr 2016

That was kinda my point. She has no vote. Republicans will never vote to allow a single seat, though.

Freddie

(9,267 posts)
51. ^^^this^^^
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:51 PM
Apr 2016

There is nothing in the constitution limiting the size of the House. The artificial limit of 435 came about in large part to contain the power of the Eastern states, especially the big cities, which were seeing a huge influx of European immigrants at the time. And most of those European immigrants were from "drinking" countries and cultures and were opposed to Prohibition, which was the #1 huge issue in 1920.
A much larger Congress would also be harder to gerrymander.
Kasich is a vile asshole who, in this case, had the common Republican lapse of forgetting his filter.

Response to KamaAina (Original post)

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
52. Should we appreciate his honesty in saying out loud what we've known all along?
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 09:43 PM
Apr 2016

He is desperately pandering to the right wing base, an arrogant f**ker, or both.

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