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Reminder: The Bush tax cuts were supposed to be temporary and expire in 2006 I think? (Original Post) silvershadow Apr 2016 OP
Fuck Schema Thing Apr 2016 #1
Not quite. They were supposed to expire after ten years......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2016 #2
Don't forget his admin also lowered the Capital Gains Tax. HughBeaumont Apr 2016 #3
As did the victims. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #4
Reminder: They expired for everyone making more than 400k a year. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #5
No that's ok. It has value. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #6
As a candidate ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #7
Yes a lot of folks don't know this Andy823 Apr 2016 #11
Yup. It's a tired old game. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #15
I remember the temporary extension for unemployment benefits. joshcryer Apr 2016 #13
Exactly. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #14
They expired for the 1%, and the 1% also were slapped with new higher taxes, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #8
apples and oranges though. ? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #9
Uh... no. This exact thing you said didn't happen actually did happen. Squinch Apr 2016 #12
sort of. republicans always meant for them to be permanent. unblock Apr 2016 #10
Major changes in the compromize 1939 Apr 2016 #16
Bush cut taxes on the 1%, with a compromise added that also cut taxes on the 99% bhikkhu Apr 2016 #17

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
2. Not quite. They were supposed to expire after ten years.........
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:00 PM
Apr 2016

which was 2011, I believe. OR 2012. Anyway, Obama and Congress made them permanent with a few tweaks.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
3. Don't forget his admin also lowered the Capital Gains Tax.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

The wealthy sent their thanks. The National Debt screamed in agony.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
5. Reminder: They expired for everyone making more than 400k a year.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

You might want to do some research next time.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
7. As a candidate ...
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

... Obama's target was 250k. To get enough votes as Presdient, he raised it slightly to 400k (for individuals, 450k for couples).

Obama also obtained some other concessions from the GOP like lower caps on tax deductions for the upper income brackets.

Ultimately, he ensured that the 99% did not see a tax increase and the top 1% saw their base tax rate return to about 39.0%.

There are lots of folks who don't know this.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
11. Yes a lot of folks don't know this
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016

However a lot of folks don't really care about the facts. They simply come up with shit to trash Obama, and they don't really care if they are right or wrong, as long as some here on DU will believe them without checking for themselves. It's been going on since he was elected.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
15. Yup. It's a tired old game.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:53 PM
Apr 2016

Meanwhile, Obama got almost everything he wanted, and the purists screamed bloody murder.

And now we have OPs like this repeating the nonsense.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. I remember the temporary extension for unemployment benefits.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 04:25 PM
Apr 2016

Which the GOP used as a bargaining tool. DUers used that one against Obama for years. Like, who cares about the unemployed during a financial crisis, right? Just let them go to hell.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
8. They expired for the 1%, and the 1% also were slapped with new higher taxes,
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:17 PM
Apr 2016

on dividends and capital gains.

unblock

(52,267 posts)
10. sort of. republicans always meant for them to be permanent.
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 03:26 PM
Apr 2016

but it blew too big a hole in the budget so they had to make them temporary (lasting "only" 9 or 10 years i think) in order to make the budget projections palatable enough to get the necessary votes.

this only served to give them an issue to continue to run on, to make the cuts permanent, to accuse democrats of hiking taxes simply because their own cut was going to expire, and to take credit for simply extending their own tax cut.

it probably worked to their advantage to have had them "temporary" at first, though at the time, if they could have, they certainly would have made them "permanent" from the start.


as others have pointed out, obama changed the rates back up for the higher brackets.

1939

(1,683 posts)
16. Major changes in the compromize
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 06:46 PM
Apr 2016

Top rate went from 35% to 39.6% on ordinary income.

Long term capital gains tax jumped from 15% to 20% for those whose incomes exceeded a certain amount.

Qualified dividends tax jumped from 15% to 20% for those whose incomes exceeded a certain amount.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
17. Bush cut taxes on the 1%, with a compromise added that also cut taxes on the 99%
Mon Apr 25, 2016, 07:23 PM
Apr 2016

Obama made the tax cuts on the 99% permanent and raised taxes back up on the 1%. The one compromise he had to make was that the threshold for the higher rate was raised from $250k to $450.

To be in the top 1% you have to make more than $450k a year, so you are part of the 99% if you make less, and you kept your tax cut.

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